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Question: Parliamentarism, Semi-Presidentialism or Presidentialism?
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« on: March 16, 2014, 12:28:38 PM »

For a Democratic Political System, which would you guys prefer?

I'll go with very good and old Parliamentary System ~ Something like Germany or even the traditional Westminster Model. It seems to me that it works better to balance powers and make it less concentrated while giving the proper responsibility for the Legislative Power. Presidentialism gives too much focus on the single individual that as matter of fact cannot do anything without the approval of Congress. Semi-Presidentialism is sort of a nice idea but it cannot give up of the vices of Presidentialism and it can lead to Co-Habitation.
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« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2014, 12:35:40 PM »

I think parliamentary systems lead to the best results.
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« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2014, 01:18:42 PM »

A parliamentary system is far better than a presidential system. In a parliamentary system, the executive (i.e. the Prime Minister and Cabinet) is ultimately accountable to the legislature. Semi-presidential systems are an improvement upon presidential systems, but they don't solve some of the biggest problems.

If the US had a parliamentary system, a man like George W. Bush would never have lead this country. He would never have rose through the ranks of leadership.
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« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2014, 01:19:58 PM »

Parliamentarism BY FAR.
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« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2014, 02:22:22 PM »

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« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2014, 02:23:19 PM »

If the US had a parliamentary system, a man like George W. Bush would never have lead this country. He would never have rose through the ranks of leadership.

You're being far too optimistic.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justin_Trudeau
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« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2014, 02:24:21 PM »

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« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2014, 02:28:09 PM »

All of the above.
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« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2014, 03:04:50 PM »

Presidential!
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« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2014, 03:06:46 PM »

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« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2014, 03:17:59 PM »

Semi-Presidentialism is the best.
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« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2014, 03:30:56 PM »


Like I said, I enjoy the idea but why it's better than Parliamentarism. Other than being your nation's system Windjammer?
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« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2014, 03:32:23 PM »


No, semi-Presidentialism is the worst.
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« Reply #13 on: March 16, 2014, 03:33:08 PM »

Why?
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« Reply #14 on: March 16, 2014, 03:38:15 PM »


Because it combines the worst of each system. Like in the parliamentary system, the parliament is under the executive's control, but like in the presidential system, the leader of the executive isn't responsible before the parliament. This creates a power unbalance which isn't found in any other system - the President can do more or less whatever he wants and can't be held accountable by anyone.
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« Reply #15 on: March 16, 2014, 03:40:30 PM »

A Westminster parliamentary system elected by first past the post is the only way to go. Throw in a smattering of pocket boroughs, and the result; magic.
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« Reply #16 on: March 16, 2014, 03:51:36 PM »

A Westminster parliamentary system elected by first past the post is the only way to go. Throw in a smattering of pocket boroughs, and the result; magic.

Erm, pocket boroughs as in the ones abolished under the Second Reform Act? ... If I may ask...why?
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« Reply #17 on: March 16, 2014, 05:06:16 PM »


This and that semi-presidentialism is by far the worst.
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« Reply #18 on: March 16, 2014, 05:30:10 PM »

A Westminster parliamentary system elected by first past the post is the only way to go. Throw in a smattering of pocket boroughs, and the result; magic.

Erm, pocket boroughs as in the ones abolished under the Second Reform Act? ... If I may ask...why?

It's well-known that Cassius hates democracy.
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« Reply #19 on: March 16, 2014, 05:46:52 PM »

I'd like to try all of them for a few elections.
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« Reply #20 on: March 16, 2014, 06:06:32 PM »

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« Reply #21 on: March 16, 2014, 07:11:30 PM »

Presidentialism.
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« Reply #22 on: March 16, 2014, 07:17:38 PM »

The American system works well for America but I wouldn't recommend it for any other nation.
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« Reply #23 on: March 16, 2014, 08:48:03 PM »

The American system works well for America but I wouldn't recommend it for any other nation.

Yep, long voting lines, gerrymandering, and selecting a president based on handful of appointed elites who aren't really held accountable to much is great for us.

Anyway, Parliamentarism, preferably with nationwide PR with an extremely low threshhold (at .5% or thereabouts).
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« Reply #24 on: March 16, 2014, 08:50:08 PM »

Australian Parliamentarism.
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