From the Atlantic: Republicans Can't Win With White Voters Alone

[All Along The Watchtower]

Article is from September 2013, but still relevant.

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More: http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/09/republicans-cant-win-with-white-voters-alone/279436/

[IceSpear]

I still think that the current incarnation of the GOP hit their ceiling with the white vote in 2012. If they want to win, they're either going to have to change, or hope an economic collapse/huge scandal hits at the perfect time.

[Suburbia]

They could win the white vote alone, if they want. They may not want to put a Hispanic, Indian-American or an African-American on the ticket, but it's up to the GOP.

[Heimdal]

[Matty]

Parties don't choose voters, voters choose parties. The democrats are so powerful right now because people are attracted to their ideas, not because the democratic party has made any special effort to appeal to a certain group. It's why Rand Paul's recent attempts are entirely pointless. It is also why the Republicans are going to go the way of the whigs. Conservatism of all angles (economic, social, foreign policy) is simply not wanted anymore.

[hopper]

Parties don't choose voters, voters choose parties. The democrats are so powerful right now because people are attracted to their ideas, not because the democratic party has made any special effort to appeal to a certain group. It's why Rand Paul's recent attempts are entirely pointless. It is also why the Republicans are going to go the way of the whigs. Conservatism of all angles (economic, social, foreign policy) is simply not wanted anymore.

Economic-Well I think people still want a capitalist system. I don't think people want socialism or certainly not communism. The social safety net is where the Republicans are isolated from the electorate mostly with millennial voters(those born after 1980.)

Foreign Policy-I think people are war wary right now because of what happened with Iraq. Its not a conservative or a liberal issue.

Social Policy-Gay Marriage is where the Republicans are very divided or isolated with the electorate as a whole. The Pro-Life vs Pro-Choice question has remained divided for a number years like the electorate is spilt in half between the 2 positions.

BTW, the recent Pew Research Poll was very damaging for Republicans in which 71% of Non- White Millennial Voters said they want a bigger government with more services. This question goes from my opening point about the social safety net with Millennial Voters. 67% of Minority Voters of all generations approve of the job that President Obama is doing. Among Whites President Obama approvals are in the low 30 regardless of generation. So, the approvals of President Obama are mostly based on race/ethnicity not by age. If you are Republican Consultant on C-Span doing a panel I don't know how you can react rhetorically with substance to countering the pew poll. This Pew Poll is enough to put Republicans out of business. Unless the Republicans want to move a platform based on Northeast or Yankee Republicanism(see Chris Christie pre-scandal) I don't see how the GOP survives. That's my frustration with Conservative Talk Radio in that they love Ted Cruz but minority voters aren't oozing to elect Ted Cruz as President.

[Suburbia]

They could choose a "white bread (as some people call it)" or "vanilla" ticket if they want. A Thune-Pawlenty or a Thune-Portman/Portman-Thune ticket could play in the Plains, even if they are uninteresting and dull.

[Reaganfan]

I still think that the current incarnation of the GOP hit their ceiling with the white vote in 2012. If they want to win, they're either going to have to change, or hope an economic collapse/huge scandal hits at the perfect time.

3% more whites and Romney would have won. What would the headline have been then? America's demographics changing but whites still rule? It's ridiculous. Every thread posted by those on the left either regards race or wealth. It really shows how obsessed the Democrats are with those two issues. It's insane.

[Randy Bobandy]

I still think that the current incarnation of the GOP hit their ceiling with the white vote in 2012. If they want to win, they're either going to have to change, or hope an economic collapse/huge scandal hits at the perfect time.

3% more whites and Romney would have won. What would the headline have been then? America's demographics changing but whites still rule? It's ridiculous. Every thread posted by those on the left either regards race or wealth. It really shows how obsessed the Democrats are with those two issues. It's insane.

You're a tad sheltered, aren't you?

[IceSpear]

I still think that the current incarnation of the GOP hit their ceiling with the white vote in 2012. If they want to win, they're either going to have to change, or hope an economic collapse/huge scandal hits at the perfect time.

3% more whites and Romney would have won. What would the headline have been then? America's demographics changing but whites still rule? It's ridiculous. Every thread posted by those on the left either regards race or wealth. It really shows how obsessed the Democrats are with those two issues. It's insane.

That's the entire point. It's going to be a lot harder to get "3% more whites" considering in 2012 he already won whites by a bigger margin than Reagan did.

[Oldiesfreak1854]

From the Atlantic: Sun rises in east, sets in west.

[Starbucks Union Thug HokeyPuck]

Well, then they'll have to stop the class war that forms the basis of their party. 

[Adam Griffin]

I still think that the current incarnation of the GOP hit their ceiling with the white vote in 2012. If they want to win, they're either going to have to change, or hope an economic collapse/huge scandal hits at the perfect time.

3% more whites and Romney would have won. What would the headline have been then? America's demographics changing but whites still rule? It's ridiculous. Every thread posted by those on the left either regards race or wealth. It really shows how obsessed the Democrats are with those two issues. It's insane.

That's the entire point. It's going to be a lot harder to get "3% more whites" considering in 2012 he already won whites by a bigger margin than Reagan did.

"but but but our next nominee is going to do better than the most popular Republican incumbent of the 20th century even though the country is much more polarized today"

[IceSpear]

It's worth noting that at no point in the entire 2012 campaign did Romney lead Obama in the electoral college. Not even after his universally acknowledged first debate triumph (a rarity in today's media and political polarization). That's very bad news for the GOP, especially since Romney wasn't some extreme Tea Partier.

[Starbucks Union Thug HokeyPuck]

It's worth noting that at no point in the entire 2012 campaign did Romney lead Obama in the electoral college. Not even after his universally acknowledged first debate triumph (a rarity in today's media and political polarization). That's very bad news for the GOP, especially since Romney wasn't some extreme Tea Partier.

Indeed... I think flipping Florida and making Virginia 50/50 was about as good as the news got for Mr. Romney in 2012.  A day after that debate, and Obama would've still won Ohio, Wisconsin, Iowa, and Colorado. 

[Reaganfan]

It's worth noting that at no point in the entire 2012 campaign did Romney lead Obama in the electoral college. Not even after his universally acknowledged first debate triumph (a rarity in today's media and political polarization). That's very bad news for the GOP, especially since Romney wasn't some extreme Tea Partier.

Indeed... I think flipping Florida and making Virginia 50/50 was about as good as the news got for Mr. Romney in 2012.  A day after that debate, and Obama would've still won Ohio, Wisconsin, Iowa, and Colorado. 

It's blacks and Hispanics. That's where the problem is for the Republicans. Romney won the Reagan-Clinton coalitions but Reagan and Clinton didn't have all these young twitter voters and minority voters to the extent Obama has.

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Republicans should run token black candidates like Alan Keyes who managed to get only 3% of the black vote in the 2004 Illinois Senate race.

I know it's cherry-picking, but still hiliarious.

[Fed. Pac. Chairman Devin]

Republicans need to go back to being the party of civil rights. If we could bring back the Republicans the brought us the CRA, we would be better off.

[illegaloperation]

Republicans need to go back to being the party of civil rights. If we could bring back the Republicans the brought us the CRA, we would be better off.

That would be hard since the Republican Party has become the party of no early voting, no Sunday voting, no same day registration and voting, voter rolls purging, voter IDs, and poll watchers.

[Oldiesfreak1854]

Well, then they'll have to stop the class war that forms the basis of their party. 

Pot.  Kettle.  Black.