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JRP1994
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« on: March 17, 2014, 09:00:43 PM »
Assuming Hillary does not run, and assuming Biden wins the nomination, how would he fare against the following GOP candidates who are currently the Top 5 on the RCP polling average?

1) Joe Biden vs Mike Huckabee
2) Joe Biden vs Rand Paul
3) Joe Biden vs Chris Christie
4) Joe Biden vs Jeb Bush
5) Joe Biden vs Paul Ryan

Electoral maps! And feel free to add any additional candidates.
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« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2014, 09:10:19 PM »
If Biden became the nominee, he would poll a close race like Gore in 2000. Remember, Gore was trailing Bush by massive margins in '99.
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« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2014, 09:16:54 PM »
Biden gets flattened by Ryan, Paul and Bush... runs a tight race (probably coming down to Pennsylvania and Ohio) with Christie and Huckabee but still loses, and has somewhere in between losses to Cruz and Walker (Who I think are the true frontrunners).

I just don't see a scenario will Joe Biden is President... Michelle Obama has a better chance than he does, and she's barely even interested in politics.
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« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2014, 09:57:40 PM »
He would beat all those candidates besides Jeb.
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« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2014, 10:31:42 PM »
Quote from: JRP1994 on March 17, 2014, 09:00:43 PM
Assuming Hillary does not run, and assuming Biden wins the nomination, how would he fare against the following GOP candidates who are currently the Top 5 on the RCP polling average?

1) Joe Biden vs Mike Huckabee
2) Joe Biden vs Rand Paul
3) Joe Biden vs Chris Christie
4) Joe Biden vs Jeb Bush
5) Joe Biden vs Paul Ryan

Electoral maps! And feel free to add any additional candidates.

Mike Huckabee (R) 51% 287 EV
Joe Biden (D) 48% 251 EV


Joe Biden (D) 53% 317 EV
Rand Paul (R) 46% 221 EV


Chris Christie (R) 52% 295 EV
Joe Biden (D) 47% 243 EV


Jeb Bush (R) 51% 286 EV
Joe Biden (D) 48% 251 EV


Paul Ryan (R) 50% 275 EV
Joe Biden (D) 49% 263 EV
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« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2014, 11:03:26 PM »
How can anybody think Ryan can beat Biden after their debate?
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« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2014, 03:31:07 AM »
Biden is a stronger candidate than most realize.
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Randy Bobandy
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« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2014, 09:31:37 AM »
Biden could legitimately win out over all five of those guys.
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« Reply #8 on: March 18, 2014, 11:48:04 PM »
Quote from: whanztastic on March 17, 2014, 11:03:26 PM
How can anybody think Ryan can beat Biden after their debate?

Ryan actually won the debate on substance, that's why.
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« Reply #9 on: March 18, 2014, 11:50:51 PM »
Quote from: dudeabides on March 18, 2014, 11:48:04 PM
Quote from: whanztastic on March 17, 2014, 11:03:26 PM
How can anybody think Ryan can beat Biden after their debate?

Ryan actually won the debate on substance, that's why.

no bb
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« Reply #10 on: March 19, 2014, 12:14:58 AM »
Quote from: dudeabides on March 18, 2014, 11:48:04 PM
Quote from: whanztastic on March 17, 2014, 11:03:26 PM
How can anybody think Ryan can beat Biden after their debate?

Ryan actually won the debate on substance, that's why.



Joe Biden single-handedly saved the Obama campaign that night.
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« Reply #11 on: March 19, 2014, 01:17:15 AM »
It would be close, but I suspect he'd lose to all of them bar Rand.
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« Reply #12 on: March 19, 2014, 02:03:08 AM »
« Edited: March 19, 2014, 02:14:21 AM by badgate »


Vice President Joe Biden / New York Governor Andrew Cuomo - 288
Frmr. Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee / Florida Senator Marco Rubio - 250



Vice President Joe Biden / Virginia Senator Mark Warner - 314
Kentucky Senator Rand Paul / Ohio Senator Rob Portman - 224



Vice President Joe Biden / Minnesota Senator Amy Klobuchar - 272
New Jersey Governor Chris Christie / Oklahoma Senator T.W. Shannon - 266



Vice President Joe Biden / Minnesota Senator Amy Klobuchar - 285
Frmr. Florida Governor Jeb Bush / New Mexico Governor Susana Martinez - 253




Vice President Joe Biden / North Carolina Senator Kay Hagan - 269
Wisconsin Congressman Paul Ryan / New Mexico Governor Susana Martinez - 269
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« Reply #13 on: March 19, 2014, 12:17:21 PM »
He'd beat Huckabee and Paul, and lose to the other 3.
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« Reply #14 on: March 19, 2014, 01:34:36 PM »

Joe Biden/Amy Klobuchar 285EV
Mike Huckabee/Rob Portman 253EV


Joe Biden/Kristen Gillibrand 260EV
Rand Paul/Brian Sandoval 278EV


Joe Biden/Cory Booker 299EV
Chris Christie/Marco Rubio 239EV


Joe Biden/Sherrod Brown 285EV
Jeb Bush/John Thune 253EV


Joe Biden/Evan Bayh 308EV
Paul Ryan/Bobby Jindal 230EV


Joe Biden/Amy Klobuchar 269EV
Scott Walker/Kelly Ayotte 269EV
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« Reply #15 on: March 19, 2014, 03:18:11 PM »
vs. Huck



vs. Paul



vs. Christie



vs. Bush



vs. Ryan



Close popular vote in all cases except #2.
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« Reply #16 on: March 19, 2014, 03:45:36 PM »
Why is everyone underestimating Paul? 
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« Reply #17 on: March 19, 2014, 04:16:32 PM »
Quote from: CELTICEMPIRE on March 19, 2014, 03:45:36 PM
Why is everyone underestimating Paul? 
Because he's a weak sauce candidate.
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« Reply #18 on: March 19, 2014, 04:34:56 PM »
Quote from: Guntaker on March 19, 2014, 04:16:32 PM
Quote from: CELTICEMPIRE on March 19, 2014, 03:45:36 PM
Why is everyone underestimating Paul? 
Because he's a weak sauce candidate.

The only anti-war anti-NSA candidate who has a chance of winning a major party's nomination is weak?
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« Reply #19 on: March 19, 2014, 06:27:41 PM »
Quote from: CELTICEMPIRE on March 19, 2014, 04:34:56 PM
Quote from: Guntaker on March 19, 2014, 04:16:32 PM
Quote from: CELTICEMPIRE on March 19, 2014, 03:45:36 PM
Why is everyone underestimating Paul?  
Because he's a weak sauce candidate.

The only anti-war anti-NSA candidate who has a chance of winning a major party's nomination is weak?

You think that helps him with his party or that Dems would cross over to an anti-social care, anti federal civil rights candidate?
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« Reply #20 on: March 19, 2014, 07:05:26 PM »
Quote from: whanztastic on March 19, 2014, 06:27:41 PM
You think that helps him with his party or that Dems would cross over to an anti-social care, anti federal civil rights candidate?

I'm talking about Independents mainly.  Maybe a few Democrats might be pissed at Clinton for being more hawkish and careless about civil liberties than the Republican and not vote.

(And Rand said he wouldn't try to overturn the CRA of 1964).
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« Reply #21 on: March 20, 2014, 10:26:36 AM »
Quote from: IceSpear on March 19, 2014, 12:17:21 PM
He'd beat Huckabee and Paul, and lose to the other 3.
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« Reply #22 on: March 20, 2014, 10:31:46 AM »
Quote from: CELTICEMPIRE on March 19, 2014, 03:45:36 PM
Why is everyone underestimating Paul? 

The only thing people are underestimating is his ability to self-destruct by having an honest moment and demonstrating how much of a joke his ideas are.
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« Reply #23 on: March 20, 2014, 11:53:22 AM »
Only Christie and Bush would be serious threats to Biden, the others would be quite easy to defeat (especially Ryan, who is a paper tiger and massively overrated).
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« Reply #24 on: April 22, 2014, 12:32:59 AM »
Christie and Ryan are the only ones who could beat him, and that's if Biden runs a poor campaign.
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