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Question: Do you support the full integration of Crimea into Russia in accordance with the results of the Referendum on the 16th March 2014?
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« on: March 18, 2014, 01:29:05 PM »

Stimmen Sie jetzt ab!
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« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2014, 01:32:02 PM »

Nein (I/O), but only because Russia invaded Ukraine prior to the vote for no reason. Sans invasion, I would see no reason not to vote ja.
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« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2014, 01:34:25 PM »

Nein danke!
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« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2014, 01:42:47 PM »

Nein (D)
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« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2014, 02:35:44 PM »

Nein (R).  Es ist nicht eine gute Idee. 
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« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2014, 02:41:46 PM »

Crimea is for all intents and purposes Russian and the 1954 transfer to the Ukrainian SSR was a mistake, though I disapprove of how Russia pursued this annexation.

I wonder how many No voters support Kosovo's unilateral declaration of independence. It seems that self-determination only matters when you support the group which wants it.
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« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2014, 02:46:58 PM »


I wonder how many No voters support Kosovo's unilateral declaration of independence. It seems that self-determination only matters when you support the group which wants it.

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« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2014, 03:18:26 PM »

If the people of Crimea wish so overwhelmingly to join the Russian federation, rather than remain a part of the Ukraine under its new, anti-Russian government, who are we to say their demands are illegitiment? Let's not pretend that the US government would be equally opposed if the Crimeans were voting to leave an adversary to join an ally....
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« Reply #8 on: March 18, 2014, 03:31:40 PM »

Nein (I/O)

The referendum was completely fake and illegitimate.
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« Reply #9 on: March 18, 2014, 03:39:35 PM »

I wonder how many No voters support Kosovo's unilateral declaration of independence. It seems that self-determination only matters when you support the group which wants it.

No kidding. Condemning Russia while celebrating the death and misery inflected on Iraq... Huh
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« Reply #10 on: March 18, 2014, 03:57:32 PM »

If the people of Crimea wish so overwhelmingly to join the Russian federation, rather than remain a part of the Ukraine under its new, anti-Russian government, who are we to say their demands are illegitiment? Let's not pretend that the US government would be equally opposed if the Crimeans were voting to leave an adversary to join an ally....
Amen. And I'm sick of the Obama hacks frothing over "realpolitik."
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« Reply #11 on: March 18, 2014, 04:27:27 PM »

If the people of Crimea wish so overwhelmingly to join the Russian federation, rather than remain a part of the Ukraine under its new, anti-Russian government, who are we to say their demands are illegitiment? Let's not pretend that the US government would be equally opposed if the Crimeans were voting to leave an adversary to join an ally....
Amen. And I'm sick of the Obama hacks frothing over "realpolitik."
Is that their line? Ironic considering that intervening in this conflict is entirely impractical and ideologically driven..
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« Reply #12 on: March 18, 2014, 05:23:33 PM »

I wonder how many No voters support Kosovo's unilateral declaration of independence. It seems that self-determination only matters when you support the group which wants it.

No kidding. Condemning Russia while celebrating the death and misery inflected on Iraq... Huh

The comparison of Iraq and Crimea is absurd.
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« Reply #13 on: March 18, 2014, 05:35:21 PM »

The comparison of Iraq and Crimea is absurd.
Interventionism is absurd.
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« Reply #14 on: March 18, 2014, 05:37:47 PM »

The comparison of Iraq and Crimea is absurd.
Interventionism is absurd.

World War II?
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« Reply #15 on: March 18, 2014, 05:38:53 PM »


Seriously?! Everybody's a drama llama these days.
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« Reply #16 on: March 18, 2014, 05:51:46 PM »

Lol.
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« Reply #17 on: March 18, 2014, 06:14:59 PM »


Was WWII not an intervention?
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« Reply #18 on: March 18, 2014, 06:31:47 PM »

Intervention is one of my favorite Arcade Fire songs.
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« Reply #19 on: March 18, 2014, 06:48:59 PM »

Crimea is for all intents and purposes Russian and the 1954 transfer to the Ukrainian SSR was a mistake, though I disapprove of how Russia pursued this annexation.

I wonder how many No voters support Kosovo's unilateral declaration of independence. It seems that self-determination only matters when you support the group which wants it.

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YOU'RE LUCKY HE EVEN FREED YOU BASTARDS. LEAVE MILOSEVIC ALONE! PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEASE!

NATO WALKED ABOUT CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY AND SAID IF MILOSEVIC WASN'T A WAR CRIMINAL HE WOULDN'T HAVE KILLED PEOPLE NO MATTER WHAT. SPEAKING OF CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY ISN'T IT A CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY TO INDISCRIMINATELY BOMB SERBIA BECAUSE YOU WANT TO SUPPRESS THE REVOLUTION? LEAVE MILOSEVIC ALONE! PLEEEEEEASE!

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LEAVE HIM ALONE...
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« Reply #20 on: March 18, 2014, 07:03:12 PM »

Nyet. I don't support fraudulent referendums as a basis for annexation.
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« Reply #21 on: March 18, 2014, 07:11:01 PM »

Nyet. I don't support fraudulent referendums as a basis for annexation.
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« Reply #22 on: March 18, 2014, 07:14:55 PM »


We didn't enter WWII until we were attacked by a member of the Axis powers, FWIW.
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« Reply #23 on: March 18, 2014, 07:28:02 PM »

That's such a stock example, and not even true, seeing as we were attacked and wouldn't have interfered otherwise.
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« Reply #24 on: March 18, 2014, 07:47:59 PM »

Crimea is for all intents and purposes Russian and the 1954 transfer to the Ukrainian SSR was a mistake, though I disapprove of how Russia pursued this annexation.

I wonder how many No voters support Kosovo's unilateral declaration of independence. It seems that self-determination only matters when you support the group which wants it.

It's really time for you to show some respect and shut up with your trolling. It was never smart nor funny, but at the point where we are now and people are beginning to die you should really take a step back.

I understand that this is remote for most of you American teenagers but I have friends from the Ukraine crying themselves to sleep with worry for their families. Whiny bitching about irrelevant analogies only serves to make you look dumber.
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