Eurovision Song Contest 2014

[Hifly]

So unless you think a person hasn't delivered a positive impact on society they're worthy of your condensation and self-perceived moral superiority? I'm not claiming cross-dressing solves starvation and stop famine, but it doesn't cause any harm to anyone either.

People telling others they should feel shame for stuff that does not affect anyone else in any sort of way, on the other hand, has caused great harm to society through-out the ages and several personal tragedies.

So if you want to sit there on your computer and go: "Uggh men in dresses, uww," like a immature twelve-year-old boy, I guess there's nothing to be done about it. But don't come dragging with your supposed intelligence when people on here rightfully refuse to treat as a grown up.   

Firstly, I won't be getting close enough to them for any condensation to occur. I am of the opinion that the way people compose themselves is important, and if this is so marginal then you shouldn't be getting so worked up about it.

[Swedish Rainbow Capitalist Cheese]

So unless you think a person hasn't delivered a positive impact on society they're worthy of your condensation and self-perceived moral superiority? I'm not claiming cross-dressing solves starvation and stop famine, but it doesn't cause any harm to anyone either.

People telling others they should feel shame for stuff that does not affect anyone else in any sort of way, on the other hand, has caused great harm to society through-out the ages and several personal tragedies.

So if you want to sit there on your computer and go: "Uggh men in dresses, uww," like a immature twelve-year-old boy, I guess there's nothing to be done about it. But don't come dragging with your supposed intelligence when people on here rightfully refuse to treat as a grown up.   

Firstly, I won't be getting close enough to them for any condensation to occur. I am of the opinion that the way people compose themselves is important, and if this is so marginal then you shouldn't be getting so worked up about it.

I can assure you I'm calm as quiet summer evening.
Though I must have hit a nerve with you since it took you a good ten minutes to write a two sentence response. (Yes I saw when you started responding.)

I'll just leave you with this Hifly.

I don't know how you can go on stage this forum in that attire and make your posts without any shame.

Good night

[Hifly]

I can assure you I'm calm as quiet summer evening.
Though I must have hit a nerve with you since it took you a good ten minutes to write a two sentence response. (Yes I saw when you started responding.)

I was writing something lengthy but then decided a few words would be more than enough.

I'll just leave you with this Hifly.

I don't know how you can go on stage this forum in that attire and make your posts without any shame.

Good night

The search for a new Peter Ustinov is now over. You have a career in comedy waiting ahead of you.

[Gustaf]

You really don't know how to argue a point, do you?

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

Your disapproval is not important nor relevant.

It's a great song, the performance was amazing and Conchita deserved the win. Your lack of respect for that and her is a deeper reflection of your flaws and issues, not hers.

You really do need to get a grip... or is that not allowed either?

[Hifly]

Your disapproval is not important nor relevant.

I know, so why are you getting so worked up about it?

It's a great song, the performance was amazing and Conchita deserved the win. Your lack of respect for that and her is a deeper reflection of your flaws and issues, not hers.

Surely that's purely interpretative? I personally thought that the song (and singing) was thoroughly uninspiring and I enjoyed the Dutch song more.

[Holmes]

Displaying disapproval towards cross-dressers is neither "stuck up" nor snobbish.

You can't decide whether what you say is hateful, snobbish, or stuck up. You don't have that authority. You can't just say whatever you want and then say "no, it wasn't hateful" when it obviously was. Wow.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

I'm not worked up at all.

[Marokai Backbeat]

France's entry was a crime against eyes and ears. 2 points well earned.

[Cassius]

Damn the man. It should have been a Dutch victory

[Cranberry]

Damn the man. It should have been a Dutch victory

It should have not. Conchita and Austria deserved it.

[Hifly]

Displaying disapproval towards cross-dressers is neither "stuck up" nor snobbish.

You can't decide whether what you say is hateful, snobbish, or stuck up. You don't have that authority. You can't just say whatever you want and then say "no, it wasn't hateful" when it obviously was. Wow.

But Swedish Cheese does have that authority?

[Tender Branson]

Damn the man. It should have been a Dutch victory

Netherlands had a good Johnny Cash/June Carter-like country-song that came out of nowhere, with a solid performance.

I would have not been all too shocked if they won.

[Tender Branson]

Here you can watch the voting from the Austrian (winner) perspective and a performance of Emmelie de Forest (Only Teardrops) before that:

http://tvthek.orf.at/program/Eurovision-Song-Contest-2014/7875455/Eurovision-Song-Contest-Finale-Das-Voting/7900652

The song contest is sooo "Glee" and "High School Musical"-like ...

[Tender Branson]

Hahaha, this is good (From the episode: "Eastern European ignorant's heads are fuming"):

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Kneel down in front of our new sodomite Princess, haters:

[Tender Branson]

How many points did "bearded lady" win in each country ?



Red = no points

Dark Green = 12
France-green = 10
Ukraine-green = 8
Germany-green = 7
Russia-yellow = 6 or less

[Swedish Rainbow Capitalist Cheese]

I'm not worked up at all.

Apparently it's his new go to argument when he can't think of anything else.

How many points did "bearded lady" win in each country ?

I was surprised by it not getting more points from Germany actually.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

Displaying disapproval towards cross-dressers is neither "stuck up" nor snobbish.

You can't decide whether what you say is hateful, snobbish, or stuck up. You don't have that authority. You can't just say whatever you want and then say "no, it wasn't hateful" when it obviously was. Wow.

But Swedish Cheese does have that authority?

Hateful, snobbish, and stuck-up are all at heart ways of describing the way one's behavior functions socially and the effect it has on other people, so yes, other people in general do have the authority to determine whether or not it comes across that way. Personally, I think you don't come across as snobbish so much as envious of the fact that Conchita Wurst is a vastly more interesting person than you are and unsure of how to express that. I understand and sympathize and I'm sure your top-notch Oxford Brookes education will be of great help carrying you forward as you figure things out for yourself.

[Hifly]

If my opinion is marginal, you shouldn't be getting so worked up about it. The use of the word "snobbery" and "stuck-up" was inappropriate in that particular context.
However, you've certainly displayed snobbery in your post by ridiculing Oxford Brookes; Yes, it may not be a great place to study but why ridicule it and people who study there (of which I am not one) ?

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

You're very willing to address essentially anything at all other than the subject at hand, aren't you?

If my opinion is marginal, you shouldn't be getting so worked up about it. The use of the word "snobbery" and "stuck-up" was inappropriate in that particular context.

Hifly, I don't think I am who you seem to think I am.

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Because it's funny to implicitly contrast your own tiresome snobbery with Oxford Brookes's comparatively unimpressive reputation. That's all. If anything, if you're at all representative of what Oxford Not-Brookes students are generally like, I'd rather study at Oxford Brookes.

[Swedish Rainbow Capitalist Cheese]

Guys, as shown by his projection, Hifly is clearly getting worked about about this. I'm not sure if it's because of envy directed at Conchita as Nathan suggests or because he feels insecurity because of some latent attraction to cross-dressers but we should probably just leave him be until he's calmed a bit and discuss the contest instead. We're not getting anything constructive out of arguing with him anyway, so I for one is gonna let him brood and leave him be for now.   

[Cassius]

Damn the man. It should have been a Dutch victory

It should have not. Conchita and Austria deserved it.

Don't worry, I'm just sore because I lost money to my brother over the result (yes, we had a family sweepstake ).

Damn the man. It should have been a Dutch victory

Netherlands had a good Johnny Cash/June Carter-like country-song that came out of nowhere, with a solid performance.

I would have not been all too shocked if they won.

Yeah, that was the main reason why the Netherlands was my favourite. I was also amenable to Sweden, Italy, Spain, Malta and Russia, but, in the end I bet on the Dutch .

I do have to say, I thought the behaviour of some in the crowd towards the Russians was pretty... well, disgraceful. I mean, I know Russia isn't exactly the most popular country at the moment, but there's no reason to take it out on two 17 year old girls who put in a decent entry.

[bore]

This thread has confirmed Hifly as the absolute wurst.

[Swedish Rainbow Capitalist Cheese]

Yeah, that was the main reason why the Netherlands was my favourite. I was also amenable to Sweden, Italy, Spain, Malta and Russia, but, in the end I bet on the Dutch .

I do have to say, I thought the behaviour of some in the crowd towards the Russians was pretty... well, disgraceful. I mean, I know Russia isn't exactly the most popular country at the moment, but there's no reason to take it out on two 17 year old girls who put in a decent entry.

The Netherlands song well deserved the second spot. It's more in line with what I personally usually listen to. 

Yeah the booing of Russia was really excessive. As you say it was clearly not the two girls fault that Putin has some really unsavory political shenanigans going on. That being said I'm glad Ukraine beat them in the end. Not just because of the political message, but also because that Hamster dude was epic.   

[morgieb]

Worst Eurovision I've watched.