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« on: March 22, 2014, 01:34:09 PM »

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/big-protest-spain-government-austerity-23019279

Tens of thousands of demonstrators from across Spain to protest the austerity measures that they claim eroded civil rights within Spain.
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« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2014, 07:28:41 PM »

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/big-protest-spain-government-austerity-23019279

Tens of thousands of demonstrators from across Spain to protest the austerity measures that they claim eroded civil rights within Spain.

No, they are claiming they eroded vital government services, not civil rights.  Indeed, civil rights isn't mentioned at all in your link.  Perhaps your algorithm had a false positive from the phrase "civil servants" which is in the article?  Get your programmer to check that before you post more links, okay?
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« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2014, 08:32:33 PM »

Ernest... just because Atlas has attracted a personified RSS feed doesn't mean a vital service isn't being provided.  It mostly doesn't.. but does sometimes initiate meaningful discussion.

He spends a decent amount of time finding and filtering information he believes will be appropriate for the forum... which is more than we can say for most others.

Get over the mild annoyance and use this service to your advantage.
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« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2014, 08:34:48 PM »

Also, the fact that you're so worked up over the difference between a "vital government service" and a "civil right" just illustrates that we're not all so different from NYE, are we?
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« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2014, 10:31:04 AM »

No, they are claiming they eroded vital government services, not civil rights.  Indeed, civil rights isn't mentioned at all in your link.  Perhaps your algorithm had a false positive from the phrase "civil servants" which is in the article?  Get your programmer to check that before you post more links, okay?

Oh well, our government has some ideas to erode civil rights as well, namely with a bill on public safety. However, according to that link, those protesters were "Marching for Dignity" and against a government that has eroded "Spain's much-valued public health and education systems". Also, they were protesting against corruption, evictions, high unemployment and the lack of opportunities that makes young people to emigrate.

Whereas the bulk of the march was peaceful, there were clashes between a some group of "infiltrated" or "radical elements" and a group of policemen that found itself isolated from the rest of the police force, with the result of more than 50 wounded agents. The right-wing press took advantage to say the march was a violent demonstration by the far-left and some police unions criticised police commanders, because they think the deployment was badly planned and nobody ordered to help in time the policemen under attack. Such controversy follows another triggered by an incident in the Morocco border, when 15 African immigrants died while trying to reach the town of Ceuta, a Spanish enclave in the south shore of the Gibraltar Strait. Apparently someone ordered security forces to shot plastic bullets against the immigrants, but nobody knows who.
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« Reply #5 on: March 27, 2014, 10:17:06 PM »

....Such controversy follows another triggered by an incident in the Morocco border, when 15 African immigrants died while trying to reach the town of Ceuta, a Spanish enclave in the south shore of the Gibraltar Strait. Apparently someone ordered security forces to shot plastic bullets against the immigrants, but nobody knows who.
Could this have been a false flag operation by the Moroccans?
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« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2014, 04:54:50 AM »

Could this have been a false flag operation by the Moroccans?

No. The immigrants who died are from Sub Saharan Africa. Many undocumented people from SSA try to get into Spain through Morocco. Spain and Morocco have an agreement on border control. Some high-rank officer tried to relieve the Spanish government from responsibility, stating that immigrants died in the Moroccan side. 

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« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2014, 06:32:17 AM »

#IwasThere.

Also, yes, this time NYE is kinda right. Many people in the protest were there because they feel our Government is "cutting" our civil rights because of this new "Citizen security law", as Velasco said. The law is unconstitutional, by the way.


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