Which Drugs should be legal for personal use? (III)

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

All of the except PCP

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

Ludes are those lemon things from Wolf of Wall Street, right?

[Starbucks Union Thug HokeyPuck]

Alcohol, marijuana, shrooms, cocaine, and tobacco.  Some of those I really couldn't tell you the effects.  The rest I think should be illegal only for the actual effect of being illegal tends to have in terms of social stigma and whatnot. 

Naturally, the legal ramifications for use (not including DUI) of ANY drug should focus entirely on rehabilitation, not punishment.  So I guess I'm making this list based upon some kind of ideal where we have ceased throwing people into jail and fining them for drug use. 

[Oldiesfreak1854]

Alcohol & Tobacco.

[Sopranos Republican]

All should be, although PCP does admittedly give me some pause.

[politicallefty]

In terms of personal use, I'd say all except meth, PCP, and krokodil. Meth labs are dangerous to the rest of society, PCP seems genuinely frightening, and krokodil simply has very nasty physical effects. I don't support incarceration for personal use or possession of any drug. However, for those, I would support some sort of mandatory rehab program (and also for a certain select few that I did not mention from the the list, like heroin).

[Hifly]

Only Krokodil

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

Only Krokodil

This post better be a joke, otherwise you have more problems than I thought.

[Maxwell]

I like how 2 people are literal prohibitionists.

[Cranberry]

I'd say all of them, after all it's their thing to do with their body whatever they want. Help addicts who want help, and let the others be, as long as they don't harm anyone but themselfs.

[Potatoe]

I'd say all of them, after all it's their thing to do with their body whatever they want. Help addicts who want help, and let the others be, as long as they don't harm anyone but themselfs.

That's honestly quite a disturbing thing to do, especially considering the person might be harmed or killed by their addiction, like in the cases of PCP or Meth or Heroin.

[MATTROSE94]

Just alcohol, tobacco and pot.

[Ban my account ffs!]

Possession of small amounts of any of them (including larger amounts of tobacco, booze, and marijuana) should be legal.

The production and distribution of these drugs should be regulated and taxed heavily to pay for treatment of addicts.

I also have no problem with adding use of any of them (with the exception of tobacco and mixed cases for booze and marijuana) to a list of aggravating factors in criminal cases.

If you are using these drugs in a way that is not harmful to others around you, then you should be left alone.  But addicts should have resources for help and people who do drugs and commit crimes should have less leeway in the court of law.

The best thing you could do for people on drugs though is to lift them out of poverty.

Drug use is a medical problem.. not a criminal problem.  And increasing drug use is a symptom of our ailing economic situation.  People satisfied with their economic situation won't be as quick to start popping barbiturates as someone who is tearing his hair out because the bill collectors want moer money than he actually makes.

[beaver2.0]

None of them but the very first.

[windjammer]

None

[Randy Bobandy]

All of the above (although I'm not quite sure what khat is).

[Oakvale]

You want to ban alcohol and tobacco, Windjammer?

[windjammer]

You want to ban alcohol and tobacco, Windjammer?

I definitely hate all these "drugs". I have always found hypocrit people who oppose drug legalization but are pro alcohol and whatever. Drugs are as dangerous as tobacco and alcohol.
However, I will never advocate a ban. That's stupid. Every society is less and less hostile to these "drugs". And militant anti-drugs are the worst. I prefer to quietly a reactionnary on these issues. My feelings are a vociferous hatred for these drugs. Is it an important issue though? Of course not.

Adam will probably try to pass some anti drugs bills in the Midwest, I would totally agree with him, but I would veto it, because that's stupid. My "side" has lost this battle, that's all. Time to do other things.

[courts]

i'm not 100% sure tbh. i don't approve of marijuana other than medicinal use, however its probably impossible to eradicate something that grows so naturally on our soil. and in any case its obviously a waste of resources to put people in jail for it and break up families. others like peyote i think do have actual redeeming features. some of these should definitely carry a death sentence if someone is caught dealing or producing them though... not that i'm the most sympathetic to people stupid enough to do something like heroin.

fwiw, the only one of these i use is alcohol

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... not that i'm the most sympathetic to people stupid enough to do something like heroin.

It's not really "stupidity". It's utter desperation, the symbol of people dealt nothing in life and have no stake. People from broken homes, with broken minds; neglected and disenfranchised from society. The institutionalised signs of success - wealth, property, education, family - are distant and unimaginable dreams. With no finances, no emotional support and a weakened psyche; what can someone do but retreat into the easy euphoria of a hit? Those of us not addicted like to imagine that we're special, we could resist the draw; but somehow I think in those circumstances, resisting the downward spiral is futile.

[Randy Bobandy]

... not that i'm the most sympathetic to people stupid enough to do something like heroin.

It's not really "stupidity". It's utter desperation, the symbol of people dealt nothing in life and have no stake. People from broken homes, with broken minds; neglected and disenfranchised from society. The institutionalised signs of success - wealth, property, education, family - are distant and unimaginable dreams. With no finances, no emotional support and a weakened psyche; what can someone do but retreat into the easy euphoria of a hit? Those of us not addicted like to imagine that we're special, we could resist the draw; but somehow I think in those circumstances, resisting the downward spiral is futile.

Uh.

What?

I'm a recovering heroin addict. I did it because I thought it looked like fun.

I think you're being just a little--just a little--dramatic.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

Alcohol, tobacco and marijuana.

For the rest....not sure. At least stop punishing the user no matter which drug it is.

This is where I am. I understand the 'logic' to allow them all... but some are actively worse and could cause a legitimate public health issue.

[dead0man]

All of the above (although I'm not quite sure what khat is).

I only know of it from reading Blackhawk Down.  It's a very mild stimulant I believe.

[Oakvale]

... not that i'm the most sympathetic to people stupid enough to do something like heroin.

It's not really "stupidity". It's utter desperation, the symbol of people dealt nothing in life and have no stake. People from broken homes, with broken minds; neglected and disenfranchised from society. The institutionalised signs of success - wealth, property, education, family - are distant and unimaginable dreams. With no finances, no emotional support and a weakened psyche; what can someone do but retreat into the easy euphoria of a hit? Those of us not addicted like to imagine that we're special, we could resist the draw; but somehow I think in those circumstances, resisting the downward spiral is futile.

Uh.

What?

I'm a recovering heroin addict. I did it because I thought it looked like fun.

I think you're being just a little--just a little--dramatic.

^ Seriously. No need for overwrought expressions of empathy.

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Oh dear, I have no idea why I made that sp melodramatic. I really shouldn't post on a sleep defecit.