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« on: March 28, 2014, 04:47:20 PM »

first five albums are (mostly) garbage?
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« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2014, 04:49:37 PM »

Why do you continuously do that with the title?

And no, were they a bit poppy and bland? Perhaps, but Garbage? Heck no!
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« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2014, 04:50:55 PM »

Uhhhh... no.  What the hell is wrong with you? 
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« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2014, 05:47:11 PM »

Uhhhh... no.  What the hell is wrong with you? 

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« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2014, 05:50:03 AM »

Obviously not and anybody that says this is obviously doing it for shock value and not from an honest musical opinion.
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« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2014, 09:23:37 AM »

Isn't it fairly universally agreed that The Beatles only became a great band with Rubber Soul?
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« Reply #6 on: March 29, 2014, 10:35:41 AM »

Hard Day's Night is the only pre-Rubber Soul album that actually is a cohesive album, boasting practically no filler and distilled fun pop rock. That's no slight against the band - who were recording albums at a ridiculously fast pace, awkwardly fitting recordings in between constant tours, films, interviews and god knows what else EMI could milk from their most lucrative cash cows. Even so, we still have some great material (mainly Lennon's) from this period - I defy anyone not to like Twist and Shout . Oh yeah, and Yesterday is still as lovely as ever.
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« Reply #7 on: March 29, 2014, 10:36:55 AM »

Isn't it fairly universally agreed that The Beatles only became a great band with Rubber Soul?

No.
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« Reply #8 on: March 29, 2014, 10:37:45 AM »

Isn't it fairly universally agreed that The Beatles only became a great band with Rubber Soul?

No.
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« Reply #9 on: March 29, 2014, 11:15:02 AM »
« Edited: March 29, 2014, 12:11:43 PM by traininthedistance »

Hard Day's Night is the only pre-Rubber Soul album that actually is a cohesive album, boasting practically no filler and distilled fun pop rock. That's no slight against the band - who were recording albums at a ridiculously fast pace, awkwardly fitting recordings in between constant tours, films, interviews and god knows what else EMI could milk from their most lucrative cash cows. Even so, we still have some great material (mainly Lennon's) from this period - I defy anyone not to like Twist and Shout . Oh yeah, and Yesterday is still as lovely as ever.

Y'know, I actually don't particularly like "Twist and Shout", and I think that Help is, if not totally consistent from end-to-end, strong enough to warrant mention along with Hard Day's Night.  But this is a pretty fair assessment overall.

Isn't it fairly universally agreed that The Beatles only became a great band with Rubber Soul?

It's not universally agreed... but it's something I'll agree with at least.  Early Beatles can be fun at times, they're not "garbage" certainly.  But they do absolutely pale in comparison to what they were able to do once they stopped touring, headed into the studio, and self-consciously tried (with the help of George Martin of course) to expand their boundaries.

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Another interesting point to keep in mind: when you say first five albums, do you mean the US or the UK versions?  Their record label would routinely slice, dice, and repackage their tracks for maximum commercial impact/pushing out more product, which should say everything that needs to be said about the artistic status of their early albums qua albums, as compared to their later ones.
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« Reply #10 on: March 29, 2014, 02:11:44 PM »

Yeah, but the US record company did that with Rubber Soul too.  And it arguably worked, but that doesn't make the original UK album not awesome.

Beatles for Sale is I think very much underrated.
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« Reply #11 on: March 29, 2014, 02:13:51 PM »

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« Reply #12 on: March 29, 2014, 02:33:15 PM »

No
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« Reply #13 on: March 29, 2014, 02:47:08 PM »

I don't this is a controversial opinion.
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« Reply #14 on: April 01, 2014, 09:01:39 PM »

first five albums are (mostly) garbage?

Blasphemy.
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« Reply #15 on: April 01, 2014, 09:06:39 PM »

The Beatles only have a couple good songs anyway, and they're all from the later albums.
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« Reply #16 on: April 01, 2014, 09:16:22 PM »


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« Reply #17 on: April 02, 2014, 07:17:00 AM »

The Beatles only have a couple good songs anyway, and they're all from the later albums.
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« Reply #18 on: April 02, 2014, 12:10:48 PM »

The Beatles only have a couple good songs anyway, and they're all from the later albums.
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« Reply #19 on: April 02, 2014, 12:14:25 PM »

The Beatles only have a couple good songs anyway, and they're all from the later albums.
Didn't you once name 50-100 bands better than The Beatles once?
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« Reply #20 on: April 02, 2014, 12:16:49 PM »

I applaud BRTD for his attack on the cult of the Beatles.
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« Reply #21 on: April 02, 2014, 12:17:17 PM »

The people who hold this opinion are generally too cool to like pop music.
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« Reply #22 on: April 02, 2014, 02:39:25 PM »

No.
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« Reply #23 on: April 02, 2014, 11:13:40 PM »

The Beatles only have a couple good songs anyway, and they're all from the later albums.

So says the most blatent worshipper of hipster music scenes who is far too alternative to enjoy pop, and consequently listens to utter drek. Thanks for your cluelessness, now DIAF.


To OP, just utterly no..
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« Reply #24 on: April 03, 2014, 03:45:52 AM »

I applaud BRTD for his attack on the cult of the Beatles.

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