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« Reply #1425 on: August 17, 2014, 06:42:33 PM »
« edited: August 17, 2014, 07:15:15 PM by NHI »

Round XXXIV: Election Night (Part 2)

8:00 Polls Close: AL, CT, DE, DC, FL, IL, KS, ME, MD, MA, MS, MO, NJ, OK, PA, TN

We are back here from NBC Studios at Rockefeller Center and we are now projecting the following states: For Vice President Giuliani: -- Tom Brokaw

Alabama: <1% Reported
√ (R) Rudy Giuliani: 57%
(D) Joe Biden: 36%
(L) Gary Johnson: 6%

Kansas: <1% Reported
√ (R) Rudy Giuliani: 53%
(D) Joe Biden: 34%
(L) Gary Johnson: 12%

Oklahoma: <1% Reported
√ (R) Rudy Giuliani: 60%
(D) Joe Biden: 39%

For Senator Biden we can project his home state of Delaware and his neighboring state of Maryland. -- Tom Brokaw

Delaware: <1% Reported
√ (D) Joe Biden: 59%
(R) Rudy Giuliani: 31%
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 6%
(L) Gary Johnson: 3%

Maryland: <1% Reported
√ (D) Joe Biden: 47%
(R) Rudy Giuliani: 32%
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 11%
(L) Gary Johnson: 9%

Electoral Map:
(R) Rudy Giuliani: 45 (45.5%)
(D) Joe Biden: 13 (34.0%)
(L) Gary Johnson: 0 (10.3%)
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 0 (9.1%)

A slight lead for Vice President Giuliani, but this race is far from over. Here are states at this time we cannot project.

Connecticut: Too Close to Call <1% Reported
(R) Rudy Giuliani: 38%
(D) Joe Biden: 37%
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 15%
(L) Gary Johnson: 10%

Washington, DC: Too Early to Call <1% Reported
(D) Joe Biden: 53%
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 28%
(R) Rudy Giuliani: 10%
(L) Gary Johnson: 8%

Florida: Too Close to Call <1% Reported
(R) Rudy Giuliani: 37%
(D) Joe Biden: 32%
(L) Gary Johnson: 18%
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 12%

Illinois: Too Early to Call <1% Reported
(D) Joe Biden: 41%
(R) Rudy Giuliani: 35%
(L) Gary Johnson: 14%
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 9%

Maine: Too Close to Call <1% Reported
(D) Joe Biden: 36%
(R) Rudy Giuliani: 34%
(L) Gary Johnson: 14%
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 14%

Massachusetts: Too Early to Call <1% Reported
(D) Joe Biden: 42%
(R) Rudy Giuliani: 31%
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 16%
(L) Gary Johnson: 10%

Mississippi: Too Early to Call <1% Reported
(R) Rudy Giuliani: 47%
(D) Joe Biden: 38%
(L) Gary Johnson: 9%
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 5%

Missouri: Too Close to Call <1% Reported
(R) Rudy Giuliani: 41%
(D) Joe Biden: 38%
(L) Gary Johnson: 11%
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 9%

New Hampshire: Too Close to Call <1% Reported
(R) Rudy Giuliani: 34%
(D) Joe Biden: 31%
(L) Gary Johnson: 18%
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 16%

New Jersey: Too Close to Call <1% Reported
(R) Rudy Giuliani: 42%
(D) Joe Biden: 38%
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 10%
(L) Gary Johnson: 9%

Pennsylvania: Too Close to Call <1% Reported
(D) Joe Biden: 42%
(R) Rudy Giuliani: 38%
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 11%
(L) Gary Johnson: 8%

Tennessee: Too Early to Call <1% Reported
(R) Rudy Giuliani: 41%
(D) Joe Biden: 31%
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 13%
(L) Gary Johnson: 12%

A lot of states left to call, anyone jump out to you Tim Russert? -- Tom Brokaw

Missouri and Mississippi are two southern states to watch for Giuliani, the closer it gets for him there the harder it maybe. He needs to carry both states. For Biden it's almost the reversal. He's five points down in New Jersey and trailing by one in Connecticut, two states Gore won four years ago. The best thing for Biden, should he lose one or both states to Giuliani is to pickup a southern Clinton state from 1996. -- Tim Russert

And it appears we have a big projection to make in the state of Vermont. Congressman Dennis Kucinich will carry Vermont. By this projection he is now the first third party candidate since George Wallace to win a state. -- Tom Brokaw

A nice win, but certainly not surprising for him.


Vermont: 45% Reported
√ (G) Dennis Kucinich: 34%
(D) Joe Biden: 27%
(R) Rudy Giuliani: 21%
(L) Gary Johnson: 17%

Electoral Map:
(R) Rudy Giuliani: 45 (45.0%)
(D) Joe Biden: 13 (34.6%)
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 3 (9.9%)
(L) Gary Johnson: 0 (10.1%)

8:30 Poll Closing: AR

At this time Arkansas, the home of Democratic vice Presidential Nominee Blanche Lincoln, is too close to call. -- Tom Brokaw

Arkansas: Too Close to Call <1% Reported
(D) Joe Biden: 39%
(R) Rudy Giuliani: 35%
(L) Gary Johnson: 15%
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 10%

We do have another projection to make, the state of Indiana will be won by Rudy Giuliani. -- Tom Brokaw

√ 8:33 pm Indiana Projected for Giuliani
√ (R) Rudy Giuliani: 40%
(D) Joe Biden: 30%
(L) Gary Johnson: 16%
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 12%

(R) Rudy Giuliani: 56 (44.9%)
(D) Joe Biden: 13 (34.0%)
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 3 (10.4%)
(L) Gary Johnson: 0 (10.3%)

A slow climb for Rudy Giuliani, but the former New York City Mayor and incumbent VP is adding to his electoral total. Tim as we look to the next closings and at the states still uncalled for, what can we expect to look for? -- Tom Brokaw

People four years ago we're saying Florida, Florida, Florida. Well Florida is a battleground state, but it looks at least by the numbers reported and looking at some of the exit polls Florida is at least leaning Giuliani, which if he can pick it up that's a nice piece of electoral change to have in your pocket. For the Biden campaign, it's about keeping the Gore states and picking up the Clinton '96 states, which is why Blanche Lincoln becomes important. If they can take an Arkansas, a Missouri, West Virginia and Kentucky or any of the states in that order they're in good shape.

And then Tom, there's still the strength from Kucinich and Johnson. Kucinich has already taken Vermont a Gore state, relatively Democratic, this does change the calculus a little, because if he can win here, where else might he win, the same for Johnson. His campaign put a great focus on states like Minnesota, South and North Dakota, Idaho, Arizona and New Mexico. If those states start falling we're seeing a very different map and perhaps a deadlocked election. -- Tim Russert


Stay Tuned...More to come of Election Night 2004.
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« Reply #1426 on: August 17, 2014, 06:51:50 PM »


Deputy Spokeswoman Andrea Saul appeared on CNN at 8:30PM on Election Night

"We're very optimistic about our shot tonight. The early polls show us leading in New Jersey, Florida, and Connecticut. When you put that fact together with our own internal polling and the exit polls from the networks, we think that we'll be heading to the White House tonight. However, in order to avoid the drama that came with the last election, Vice President Giuliani has decided that he will not accept or concede the race until every state has been called."
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« Reply #1427 on: August 17, 2014, 06:53:38 PM »

I'm expecting a weird map!!
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« Reply #1428 on: August 17, 2014, 06:59:41 PM »

Joe Trippi, Senior Advisor to the Kucinich campaign

You can see that our campaign is doing very well right now. We just made history and became the first third-party ticket to win a state since 1968, and Vermont is just the beginning of our success. Expect us to be particularly strong in the Northeast and the West Coast, where we've been the most organized and our supporters are the most motivated. We're obviously very happy tonight.
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« Reply #1429 on: August 17, 2014, 07:11:51 PM »

Round XXXIV: Election Day (Part 3)

√ 8:51 pm Mississippi Projected for Giuliani
√ (R) Rudy Giuliani: 48%
(D) Joe Biden: 37%
(L) Gary Johnson: 9%
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 5%

√ 8:59 pm North Carolina Projected for Giuliani
√ (R) Rudy Giuliani: 49%
(D) Joe Biden: 39%
(L) Gary Johnson: 11%

√ 8:59 pm Washington, DC for Biden
√ (D) Joe Biden: 53%
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 30%
(R) Rudy Giuliani: 9%
(L) Gary Johnson: 7%

(R) Rudy Giuliani: 77 (43.7%)
(D) Joe Biden: 16 (34.9%)
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 3 (11.2%)
(L) Gary Johnson: 0 (9.9%)

9:00 Polls Close: AZ, CO, LA, MI, MN, NE, NM, NY, RI, SD, TX, WI, WY

√ 9:01 pm Maine (AL) Projected for Biden
√ (D) Joe Biden: 42.9%
(R) Rudy Giuliani: 36.0%
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 11.2%
(L) Gary Johnson: 8.9%

Arizona: Too Close to Call <1% Reported
(R) Rudy Giuliani: 39%
(D) Joe Biden: 37%
(L) Gary Johnson: 23%

Colorado: Too Close to Call <1% Reported
(R) Rudy Giuliani: 32%
(D) Joe Biden: 29%
(L) Gary Johnson: 22%
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 16%

Louisiana: Too Early to Call <1% Reported
(R) Rudy Giuliani: 46%
(D) Joe Biden: 36%
(L) Gary Johnson: 9%
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 8%

Michigan: Too Close to Call <1% Reported
(D) Joe Biden: 41%
(R) Rudy Giuliani: 38%
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 11%
(L) Gary Johnson: 9%

Minnesota: Too Close to Call <1% Reported
(D) Joe Biden: 30%
(L) Gary Johnson: 27%
(R) Rudy Giuliani: 24%
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 18%

Nebraska CD 2: Too Close to Call <1% Reported
(R) Rudy Giuliani: 44%
(D) Joe Biden: 42%
(L) Gary Johnson: 9%
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 5%

New Mexico: Too Close to Call <1% Reported
(D) Joe Biden: 31%
(L) Gary Johnson: 29%
(R) Rudy Giuliani: 27%
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 12%

New York: Too Close to Call <1% Reported
(R) Rudy Giuliani: 43%
(D) Joe Biden: 39%
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 13%
(L) Gary Johnson: 4%

Rhode Island: Too Early to Call <1% Reported
(D) Joe Biden: 35%
(R) Rudy Giuliani: 33%
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 22%
(L) Gary Johnson: 9%

South Dakota: Too Close to Call <1% Reported
(R) Rudy Giuliani: 40%
(D) Joe Biden: 35%
(L) Gary Johnson: 24%

Texas: Too Early to Call <1% Reported
(R) Rudy Giuliani: 43%
(D) Joe Biden: 34%
(L) Gary Johnson: 15%
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 7%

Wisconsin: Too Close to Call <1% Reported
(R) Rudy Giuliani: 40%
(D) Joe Biden: 39%
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 13%
(L) Gary Johnson: 7%

Wyoming: Too Early to Call <1% Reported
(R) Rudy Giuliani: 47%
(D) Joe Biden: 29%
(L) Gary Johnson: 23%

√ 9:07 Tennessee Projected for Giuliani
√ (R) Rudy Giuliani: 42%
(D) Joe Biden: 31%
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 14%
(L) Gary Johnson: 12%

Only one projection at this time and that is Nebraska for Giuliani, the state of Nebraska, the at-large district and congressional districts, one and three. Two is too close to call. -- Tom Brokaw

Nebraska: 3/5
√ (R) Rudy Giuliani: 48%
(D) Joe Biden: 35%
(L) Gary Johnson: 10%
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 6%

(R) Rudy Giuliani: 92 (43.7%)
(D) Joe Biden: 18 (34.6%)
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 3 (11.4%)
(L) Gary Johnson: 3 (10.0%)

Another state for Giuliani and now we know go live to David Greggory who is at The White House this evening with the President as the returns come in. David, the President's name is not on the ballot this evening, but certainly he sees tonight's results as a partial if not direct referendum on his tenure as President, how are they feeling about the results so far? -- Tom Brokaw

Cautiously optimistic Tom. There is not the sense of panic as there was four years ago, again different circumstances and different candidates, but they are watching states like Kentucky and Virginia and of course Ohio. As we know no Republican has won the White House without Ohio. -- David Greggory

Hold on David, we have another projection to make: Democrats can sleep soundly tonight, Massachusetts will stay red this evening. Joe Biden will carry Massachusetts.-- Tom Brokaw


√ 9:16 pm Massachusetts Projected for Biden
√ (D) Joe Biden: 42%
(R) Rudy Giuliani: 29%
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 17%
(L) Gary Johnson: 11%

Biden increase his electoral total. Tim what are we looking at in some of the big states, still left to call? -- Tom Brokaw

It's Ohio, Kentucky and Virginia. Those right now are the three to watch. Ohio is very tight and Kentucky and Virginia are very unique. Giuliani looks like he'll whether the storm and keep Virginia Republican, but Kentucky is leaning Biden's way and it's too early now to say one way or another, but I'd be more optimistic about Kentucky going Democrat tonight than Republican. -- Tim Russert


Ohio: Too Close to Call 59% Reported
(R) Rudy Giuliani: 32.1%
(D) Joe Biden: 31.9%
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 18.9%
(L) Gary Johnson: 16.1%

Kentucky: Too Close to Call 66% Reported
(D) Joe Biden: 37.7%
(R) Rudy Giuliani: 37.2%
(L) Gary Johnson: 15.7%
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 8.4%

Virginia: Too Close to Call 61% Reported
(R) Rudy Giuliani: 37.5%
(D) Joe Biden: 34.1%
(L) Gary Johnson: 18.8%
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 9.3%

Giuliani Camp: 'Will Not Accept or Concede Victory Until Every State Called'
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« Reply #1430 on: August 17, 2014, 07:35:48 PM »

NHI, is the projection the final margin of vote?
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« Reply #1431 on: August 17, 2014, 07:47:01 PM »

NHI, is the projection the final margin of vote?
Yes.
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« Reply #1432 on: August 17, 2014, 07:48:32 PM »

I'm going to make a map of results based on congressional districts then.
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« Reply #1433 on: August 17, 2014, 07:53:45 PM »

Round XXXIV: (Part 4)

Congressional Races: 2004

As we wait on more results on the Presidential Races, we do have some Senate Races to project:

Current Status:
Senate: 51 48 1 Independent
House: 229 204

Alabama:√ Shelby: 68% D: 32% (R-HOLD)
Connecticut:√ Dodd: 63% Orchuli: 36% (D-HOLD)
Illinois: √ Obama: 52%  Oberweiss: 44% Other: 4% (D-GAIN)
Indiana: √ Bayh: 60% Scott: 34% L: 4% (D-HOLD)
Kansas: √ Brownback: 62% Jones: 33% Other: 5% (R-HOLD)
Maryland: √ Mikulski: 59% Pipkin: 36% Other: 4.5% (D-HOLD)
New York: √ Schumer: 63% Mills: 30% Other: G: 5% (D-HOLD)
New Hampshire: √ Gregg: 63% Haddock: 28% Smith: 7% (R-HOLD)
North Dakota: √ Dorgan: 58% Liffrig: 38% (R-HOLD)
Ohio: √ Voinovich: 60% Fingerhut: 31% (R-HOLD)
Oklahoma: √ Coburn: 59% Carson: 41% (R-HOLD)
Pennsylvania: √ Specter: 49%  Hoeffel: 44% L: 4% O: 3% (R-HOLD)
South Carolina: √ DeMint: 53% Tenebaum: 45% (R-GAIN)
Vermont: Leahey: 61% McMullen: 27% G: 11% (D-HOLD)

Texas: CD 14
√ (L) Ron Paul: 85% Other: 15%

So far a fifty-fifty. One gain for the GOP and one gain for the Democrats. -- Tim Russert

√ 9:30 Louisiana Projected for Giuliani
√ (R) Rudy Giuliani: 47%
(D) Joe Biden: 36%
(L) Gary Johnson: 11%
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 6%

(R) Rudy Giuliani: 101 (43.1%)
(D) Joe Biden: 30 (35.6%)
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 3 (11.0%)
(L) Gary Johnson: 0 (10.1%)

Here are some more of the races we continue to watch as Election Night 2004 wages on. -- Tom Brokaw

Fasten your seat belt Tom, it looks to be a long and bumpy night. -- Tim Russert


Maine CD 1: Too Close to Call
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 29.2%
(R) Rudy Giuliani: 28.9%
(D) Joe Biden: 24.1%
(L) Gary Johnson: 17.7%

New Hampshire: Too Close to Call 75% Reported
(R) Rudy Giuliani: 35.1%
(D) Joe Biden: 32.7%
(L) Gary Johnson: 17.4%
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 14.6%

Pennsylvania: Too Close to Call 58% Reported
(D) Joe Biden: 41.1%
(R) Rudy Giuliani: 39.4%
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 10.3%
(L) Gary Johnson: 9.0%

New York: Too Close to Call 41% Reported
(R) Rudy Giuliani: 42.5%
(D) Joe Biden: 38.7%
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 13.1%
(L) Gary Johnson: 5.5%

New Jersey: Too Close to Call 66% Reported
(R) Rudy Giuliani: 41.1%
(D) Joe Biden: 39.7%
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 10.0%
(L) Gary Johnson: 9.1%

Arkansas: Too Close to Call 69% Reported
(D) Joe Biden: 38.8%
(R) Rudy Giuliani: 36.9%
(L) Gary Johnson: 15.9%
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 8.3%

√ 9:41West Virginia Projected for Giuliani
√ (R) Rudy Giuliani: 48%
(D) Joe Biden: 41%
(L) Gary Johnson: 10%

(R) Rudy Giuliani: 106 (42.8%)
(D) Joe Biden: 30 (35.9%)
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 3 (11.0%)
(L) Gary Johnson: 0 (9.9%)

√ 9:45 pm Illinois Projected for Biden
√ (D) Joe Biden: 42%
(R) Rudy Giuliani: 35%
(L) Gary Johnson: 13%
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 9%

Another Democratic state goes for Biden. As we look at the map Tim is what you expected or are you surprised by tonight's results? -- Tom Brokaw

More or less, if I can put it that way Tom. Everything is generally going where I thought it might. Kentucky seems to be the outlier, while it is still close, Biden has maintained the lead throughout the entire night. -- Tim Russert

You must have ESP Tim Russert, because NBC is now ready to make a major projection, Kentucky will be won by Senator Joe Biden. -- Tom Brokaw


√ Kentucky Projected for Biden
(D) Joe Biden: 38.1%
(R) Rudy Giuliani: 37.0%
(L) Gary Johnson: 15.6%
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 8.9%

Biden did what Gore could not do four years ago and that was carry a Clinton state and I think part of that is attributed to Gary Johnson. The way I see it going Tom is wherever Johnson or Kucinich are strong or pulling a strong third that hurts either Giuliani or Biden respectively and I think that was the case in Kentucky, along with Biden's campaign efforts in the state. They wanted to take back some of the Clinton states from eight years ago and tonight they've taken one, so far. -- Tim Russert

√ 9:51 pm: Connecticut Projected for Giuliani
√ (R) Rudy Giuliani: 38.7%
(D Joe Biden: 36.4%
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 15.4%
(L) Gary Johnson: 9.3%

(R) Rudy Giuliani: 113 (41.4%)
(D) Joe Biden: 59 (36.9%)
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 3 (11.3%)
(L) Gary Johnson: 0 (10.1%)

√ 9:59 pm Wyoming Projected for Giuliani
√ (R) Rudy Giuliani: 49%
(D) Joe Biden: 28%
(L) Gary Johnson: 23%
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« Reply #1434 on: August 17, 2014, 08:10:47 PM »


Karl Rove, Chief Political Strategist for the Giuliani Campaign, appears on Fox News at 10:00PM.

"Joe Biden won Kentucky, but it was very close in the Bluegrass State - less than a whole percent, with two strong third-party candidates on the ballot. Bill Clinton did that in '96. But I think it's much more telling that we carried Connecticut by almost 3 points. No Republican has done that since George H.W. Bush in 1988. We're still leading in New York, Virginia, Texas, and New Jersey, and we're even more confident that the Vice President will be heading to the Oval Office in January."
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« Reply #1435 on: August 17, 2014, 08:32:29 PM »
« Edited: August 17, 2014, 08:49:36 PM by NHI »

Round XXXIV: Election Night (Part 5)

√ 10:07 pm Arkansas Projected for Biden
√ (D) Joe Biden: 38.2%
(R) Rudy Giuliani: 37.6%
(L) Gary Johnson: 15.8%
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 8.1%

Another Clinton for Biden. From this point it appears his emphasis on southern states maybe prove to be his trump card, especially given Giuliani's more moderate and some would say liberal social positions and the presence of Gary Johnson, Biden is doing quite well. -- Tim Russert

Here is where the electoral college map stands at this hour. -- Tom Brokaw
(R) Rudy Giuliani: 159 (40.2%)
(D) Joe Biden: 69 (37.3%)
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 4 (11.5%)
(L) Gary Johnson: 0 (10.7%)

As we wait for more results to come in here are the latest Senate Projections:

Arizona: √ McCain: 68% D: 25% L: 4% G: 2% (R-HOLD)
Georgia: √ Isakson: 51% Majette: 45% L: 4% (R-GAIN)
Iowa: √ Grassley: 68% Small: 21% L: 5%  G: 4% (R-HOLD)
Nevada: √ Reid: 59% Ziser: 31% L: 8% G: 3% (D-HOLD)
Utah: √ Bennett: 79% O: 21% (R-HOLD)


Ones we are watching:

North Carolina: Too Close to Call
(D) Bowles: 50%
(R) Burr: 48%
(L) Libertarian: 2%

Kentucky: Too Close to Call
(D) Mongiard: 49.3%
(R) Bunning: 48.9%

South Dakota: Too Close to Call
(R) Thune: 49.8%
(D) Daschle: 49.6%

New Mexico: Too Close to Call (79% Reported)
(L) Gary Johnson: 31.3%
(D) Joe Biden: 29.1%
(R) Rudy Giuliani: 24.9%
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 14.5%

Minnesota: Too Close to Call (67% Reported)
(L) Gary Johnson: 29.8%
(D) Joe Biden: 26.7%
(R) Rudy Giuliani: 25.1%
(L) Dennis Kucinich: 18.2%

Tim, very interesting development. Gary Johnson now leads Joe Biden in both New Mexico, the state where he served eight years as Governor and in Minnesota, where his running mate served as Governor. Now we're not projecting the state at this moment, but it does change the dynamics of this race. What do you make of it? -- Tom Brokaw

The Johnson Campaign has said repeatedly they're playing for the mid and southwest. That's their strength, because they can compete evenly with Giuliani and Biden. New Mexico I'd say will likely go for Johnson, Minnesota is the coin toss. -- Tim Russert


√ 10:22 pm: Virginia Projected for Giuliani
√ (R) Rudy Giuliani: 37.0%
(D) Joe Biden: 34.7%
(L) Gary Johnson: 18.5%
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 9.6%

(R) Rudy Giuliani: 172 (39.8%)
(D) Joe Biden: 69 (37.3%)
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 4 (11.5%)
(L) Gary Johnson: 0 (11.7%)

√ Senate Projection: Wisconsin Fiengold Wins (D-HOLD)

Florida: Too Close to Call (85% Reported)
(R) Rudy Giuliani: 38.1%
(D) Joe Biden: 36.9%
(L) Gary Johnson: 15.5%
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 9.3%

And now a major projection, Pennsylvania will be won by Senator Joe Biden. He was born here, his roots are in this state, it neighbors Delaware and tonight he takes it. -- Tom Brokaw

Once again Republicans are thwarted a chance to take Pennsylvania. -- Tim Russert


√ 10:28 pm: Pennsylvania Projected for Biden
√ (D) Joe Biden: 40.4%
(R) Rudy Giuliani: 39.0%
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 11.2%
(L) Gary Johnson: 8.3%
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« Reply #1436 on: August 17, 2014, 08:34:24 PM »



Arizona: √ McCain: 68% D: 25% L: 4% G: 2% (R-HOLD)
Georgia: √ Isakson: 51% Majette: 45% L: 4% (R-GAIN)
Iowa: √ Grassley: 68% Small: 21% L: 5%  G: 4% (D-HOLD)
Nevada: √ Reid: 59% Ziser: 31% L: 8% G: 3% (D-HOLD)
Utah: √ Bennett: 79% O: 21% (R-HOLD)

OOCL Chuck Grassley is a Republican
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« Reply #1437 on: August 17, 2014, 08:44:56 PM »



Arizona: √ McCain: 68% D: 25% L: 4% G: 2% (R-HOLD)
Georgia: √ Isakson: 51% Majette: 45% L: 4% (R-GAIN)
Iowa: √ Grassley: 68% Small: 21% L: 5%  G: 4% (D-HOLD)
Nevada: √ Reid: 59% Ziser: 31% L: 8% G: 3% (D-HOLD)
Utah: √ Bennett: 79% O: 21% (R-HOLD)

OOCL Chuck Grassley is a Republican

Thanks for the catch, that should have been an R
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« Reply #1438 on: August 17, 2014, 08:46:41 PM »

Shouldn't Kucinich's EC count be 4 now, since I captured one of Maine's AL districts?
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« Reply #1439 on: August 17, 2014, 09:08:38 PM »

Round XXXIV: Election Night (Part 6)

We're back and closing in on the eleven o'clock hour, here is the state of the race and Tim Russert is back to take a look at the Electoral Map.

(R) Rudy Giuliani: 173 (39.1%)
(D) Joe Biden: 107 (37.5%)
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 4 (11.3%)
(L) Gary Johnson: 0 (11.8%)

Tom, not much has changed. We did project Michigan for Biden and the Second Congressional District in Maine for Giuliani. A strange make out in Maine. The state at large going for Biden, one district going for Kucinich and the other going for Giuliani. Now some at home maybe thinking it's one delegate what's the difference, well in a close contest one delegate may make the difference between a tie and a winner. -- Tim Russert

Another major projection to make, NBC News is now calling the race in New Jersey. NBC News can now project Rudy Giuliani will win New Jersey. He becomes the first Republican candidate to carry the state since George H.W. Bush in 1988. -- Tom Brokaw

That changes the dynamics entirely of this race. Giuliani has won back a significant state, one that they put a lot of time and money into. If they lost it tonight, even by a whisker it would spell trouble elsewhere, but he carried out and now the campaign can look to other key states without having to scramble. A big win for Rudy Giuliani tonight. -- Tim Russert


√ (R) Rudy Giuliani: 41.1%
(D) Joe Biden: 38.4%
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 13.2%
(L) Gary Johnson: 7.1%

And we have another major projection at 10:56 pm here on the east coast. New Mexico will be won by Libertarian Candidate Gary Johnson. Johnson now joins Kucinich in carrying a state this evening. -- Tom Brokaw

(R) Rudy Giuliani: 188 (38.8%)
(D) Joe Biden: 107 (37.4%)
(L) Gary Johnson: 5 (11.9%)
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 4 (11.6%)

A strong night for the third party candidates. We are looking at a very fluid, very radically different map then we're used to seeing Tom. Tonight is merely a test I think for four years from now when the Libertarian and Green Party candidates can really make their case and show with credibility, yes we can do this. Their strength tonight also has the effect of bringing in other third parties, which we'll have to wait and see how that plays out. -- Tim Russert

An interesting point to consider Tim is that tonight looks to be the fourth election where no candidate can claim a majority in the popular vote, whoever wins tonight will only claim a plurality and in a four man race that's telling, and really underscores the polarization taking hold or still holding on for that matter in the United States. -- Tom Brokaw

It's going to make it very difficult for the next President to govern and govern effectively. This is why third party candidates have been sidelined and kept out of debates, ballots etc, it creates a very chaotic electoral result and frankly we may not have a clear winner of this race, for a few days. -- Tim Russert


Montana: Too Close to Call (63% Reported)
(R) Rudy Giuliani: 34%
(D) Joe Biden: 32%
(L) Gary Johnson: 23%
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 10%

Nevada: Too Close to Call (55% Reported)
(D) Joe Biden: 33.1%
(R) Rudy Giuliani: 31.9%
(L) Gary Johnson: 20.9%
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 14.0%

Iowa: Too Close to Call (59% Reported)
(D) Joe Biden: 36.9%
(R) Rudy Giuliani: 34.5%
(L) Gary Johnson: 16.6%
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 11.7%

11:00 Poll Closings: CA, HI, ID, ND, OR, WA

Top of the hour once again, six states have closed their polls and here is what we can project at this time. -- Tom Brokaw

Hawaii: <1%
√ Joe Biden: 43%
(R) Rudy Giuliani: 35%
(L) Gary Johnson: 11%
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 10%

Idaho: <1%
√ (R) Rudy Giuliani: 49%
(D) Joe Biden: 33%
(L) Gary Johnson: 17%

California: <1% Reported (Too Close to Call)
(D) Joe Biden: 40%
(R) Rudy Giuliani: 32%
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 17%
(L) Gary Johnson: 10%

North Dakota: <1% Reported (Too Close to Call)
(R) Rudy Giuliani: 42%
(D) Joe Biden: 34%
(L) Gary Johnson: 23%

Oregon: <1% Reported (Too Close to Call)
(D) Joe Biden: 36%
(R) Rudy Giuliani: 33%
(L) Gary Johnson: 16%
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 14%

Washington: <1% Reported (Too Close to Call)
(D) Joe Biden: 32%
(R) Rudy Giuliani: 27%
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 23%
(L) Gary Johnson: 17%
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« Reply #1440 on: August 17, 2014, 09:36:15 PM »


George H.W. Bush, an honorary Co-Chairman of the Giuliani Campaign, appeared on ABC at 10:48PM

"New York, New York, New York. That's where the campaign is banking on. Rudy carried New Jersey and that's a good sign. If you add New York to the mix of states he's already got he's all but assured an electoral college victory. Picking up New York means that Johnson can take one of the Dakotas and Biden can take Iowa, and Rudy can still win."
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« Reply #1441 on: August 17, 2014, 09:38:23 PM »

Ok, here is the map of results by congressional districts so far.



NHI, what were the final results in texas and Utah
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« Reply #1442 on: August 17, 2014, 09:47:11 PM »

Round XXXIV: Election Night (Part 7)

South Dakota: Senate Race: Projection (R-GAIN)
√ (R) Thune: 49.9%
(D) Daschle: 49.5%

The Republicans gain a significant senate seat, defeating Senate Minority Leader Tom Daschle. And at this point it appears the GOP will keep control of both the House and Senate. -- Tom Brokaw

√ REPUBLICAN WILL KEEP CONTROL OF CONGRESS

√ 11:13 pm: Minnesota Projected for Johnson
√ (L) Gary Johnson: 30.0%
(D) Joe Biden: 26.3%
(R) Rudy Giuliani: 26.1%
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 17.4%

Once again Gary Johnson, the Libertarian Nominee has shakeup the electoral map, now carrying the state of Minnesota, home state of his Vice Presidential Candidate, the Governor, Jesse Ventura. -- Tom Brokaw

(R) Rudy Giuliani: 192 (38.1%)
(D) Joe Biden: 111 (37.2%)
(L) Gary Johnson: 15 (12.5%)
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 4 (11.9%)

And it appears Tim we can now project South Dakota for Rudy Giuliani. -- Tom Brokaw

√ 11:18 pm: South Dakota Projected for Rudy Giuliani
√ (R) Rudy Giuliani: 41.9%
(D) Joe Biden: 35.0%
(L) Gary Johnson: 22.8%

Florida Senate Race: Projection (R-GAIN)
√ (R)Martinez: 47.3%
(D) Castor: 46.9%
Other: 5.2%

Colorado Senate Race: Projection (D-HOLD)
√ (D) Salazar: 49.0%
(R) Coors: 45.9%

California Senate Race: Projection (D-HOLD)
√ (D) Boxer: 49%
(R) Jones: 33%
Other: 9.3%

Kentucky Senate Race: Projection: (D-GAIN)
√ (D) Mongiardo: 49.3%
(R) 48.9%

Oregon Senate Race Projection: (D-HOLD)
√ (D) Wynde: 55%
(R) King: 33%
(G) 7%
L: 4%

Missouri Senate Race Projection: (R-HOLD)
(R) Bond: 51%
(D) Farmer: 46%

√ 11:36 pm: Missouri Projected for Giuliani
√ (R) Rudy Giuliani: 39.6%
(D) Joe Biden: 36.9%
(L) Gary Johnson: 13.1%
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 9.9%

Missouri stays Republican, thwarting Biden of his hopes to win the neighboring state of Arkansas. Giuliani now crosses the 200 mark. The math becomes a little trickier now for Biden. Looking at the map he needs Ohio, or Florida to remain competitive at least. -- Tim Russert

√ 11:39 pm: Iowa Projected for Biden
√ (D) Joe Biden: 37.0%
(R) Rudy Giuliani: 35.8%
(L) Gary Johnson: 14.7%
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 12.2%

Biden takes Iowa. -- Tom Brokaw

He needed it and now he's got it. For Biden it is about holding onto as many of the Gore states as possible, while trying to pick off Florida or Ohio, both which went for Bush four years ago. Then there is also the wild cards of Nevada and Colorado, but that's a little trickier and those cannot be the last line of defense, especially now as it appears Washington is tightening. -- Tim Russert


Washington: Too Close to Call 39% Reported
(D) Joe Biden: 32%
(R) Rudy Giuliani: 27%
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 25%
(L) Gary Johnson: 16%

(R) Rudy Giuliani: 206 (37.9%)
(D) Joe Biden: 118 (37.0%)
(L) Gary Johnson: 15 (12.9%)
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 4 (12.4%)

√ 11:49 pm: Arizona Projected for Giuliani
√ (R) Rudy Giuliani: 41%
(D) Joe Biden: 37%
(L) Gary Johnson: 21%

√ 11:52 pm: California Projected for Biden
√ Joe Biden: 39%
(R) Rudy Giuliani: 31%
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 18%
(L) Gary Johnson: 11%

Two more states projected and all eyes focus on New York, Florida and Ohio. These are the states all campaigns are keeping watch on. -- Tom Brokaw
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« Reply #1443 on: August 17, 2014, 09:47:43 PM »

Ok, here is the map of results by congressional districts so far.



NHI, what were the final results in texas and Utah
Giuliani for both.
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« Reply #1444 on: August 17, 2014, 10:32:52 PM »

Ok, here is the map of results by congressional districts so far.



NHI, what were the final results in texas and Utah
Giuliani for both.
No, I was wondering the popular vote% for the candidates.
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« Reply #1445 on: August 17, 2014, 10:37:31 PM »
« Edited: August 17, 2014, 10:41:46 PM by NHI »

Round XXXIV: Election Night (Part 8 )

√ 11:57 pm: Oregon Projected for Biden
√ (D) Joe Biden: 36.4%
(R) Rudy Giuliani: 33.9%
(L) Gary Johnson: 16.5%
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 13.0%

(R) Rudy Giuliani: 216 (37.4%)
(D) Joe Biden: 180 (36.6%)
(L) Gary Johnson: 15 (13.0%)
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 4 (12.8%)

North Dakota: Too Close to Call (81% Reported)
(R) Rudy Giuliani: 39%
(L) Gary Johnson: 32%
(D) Joe Biden: 28%

Ohio: Too Close to Call (99%) Reported
(R) Rudy Giuliani: 32.06%
(D) Joe Biden: 30.99%
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 19.1%
(L) Gary Johnson: 17.5%

Looking at Florida we can now make a major projection. Rudy Giuliani will carry the state that four years ago caused a lot of headaches and introduced the phrase butterfly ballot. It doesn't happen tonight, it seems. Rudy Giuliani wins Florida. -- Tom Brokaw

And looking at the map, it's close, but Giuliani's got this one in the bag. -- Tim Russert

√ (R) Rudy Giuliani: 38.2%
(D) Joe Biden: 36.7%
(L) Gary Johnson: 13.4%
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 11.4%

(R) Rudy Giuliani: 243 (37.6%)
(D) Joe Biden: 180 (36.4%)
(L) Gary Johnson: 15 (13.0%)
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 4 (12.8%)

Tim, people seeing this map can do the math and realize that Giuliani is in a fine position. Ohio is still out, as is New York, but Florida is significant as it was one Biden really needed. -- Tom Brokaw

New York: Too Close to Call (97% Reported)
(R) Rudy Giuliani: 42.3%
(D) Joe Biden: 38.0%
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 13.9%
(L) Gary Johnson: 5.6%

Four years ago it was Florida, Florida, Florida. Tonight as the former President said, it's New York, New York, New York. Giuliani needs it. Biden needs it. If Giuliani takes it, then the game's over and he'll be the next President of the United States. If Biden takes it, then he's still in the game. -- Tim Russert

And the Biden Campaign can breathe a sigh of relief for the moment, at least NBC News is now projecting Nevada for the Delaware Senator. -- Tom Brokaw


Nevada: Projected for Biden
√ (D) Joe Biden: 32.9%
(R) Rudy Giuliani: 31.9%
(L) Gary Johnson: 20.9%
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 14.1%

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Now thirty-six minutes after midnight on the east coast and we do not have a projected winner for the Presidency at this time. We're back with Tim Russert and the electoral map: -- Tom Brokaw

(R) Rudy Giuliani: 243 (37.1%)
(D) Joe Biden: 186 (36.0%)
(L) Gary Johnson: 18 (13.5%)
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 4 (13.1%)

Gary Johnson has picked up another state, North Dakota, not a real surprise, but still adds to his electoral count. Now for Biden the map is much more daunting, than Giuliani. The Vice President wins New York and he's over the line. Biden on the other hand needs Ohio, he need New York and so on. Giuliani's in the driver seat at this point. -- Tim Russert

Biden's Path to the White House:
Ohio: 20 EV
NY: 31 EV
WI: 10 EV
CO: 9 EV
WA: 11 EV
MT: 3 EV
+186 EV
Total: 270 (exactly!)

Tim, I'm going to need to interrupt you momentarily for a major projection. NBC News is calling New York for Rudy Giuliani. -- Tom Brokaw

That's it. -- Tim Russert

NBC News can now project that Rudolph Giuliani, Former Mayor of New York City and 47th Vice President of the United States will be the 44th President of the United States of America. -- Tom Brokaw


NBC NEWS PROJECTION: GIULIANI WINS ELECTION
√ R: 42.3% D: 38.0% G: 13.9% L: 5.5%

√ GIULIANI PROJECTED WINNER IN PRES. ELECTION √
(R) Rudy Giuliani: 274 (37.2%)
(D) Joe Biden: 186 (36.0%)
(L) Gary Johnson: 18 (13.5%)
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 4 (13.1%)
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« Reply #1446 on: August 17, 2014, 10:47:16 PM »


Dana Perino, Special Assistant and Press Secretary to the Vice President, appeared on NBC at 12:30AM

"I know that NBC and most of the other networks just called New York, and the race, for the Vice President however, we are not popping the champagne yet. Ohio is still outstanding, as are Wisconsin, Montana, Washington, Alaska, and Colorado. As the Vice President said earlier in the night he's not going to accept or concede the race until every state has been called."
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« Reply #1447 on: August 17, 2014, 11:02:11 PM »

Round XXXIV: Election Night (Part 9)

√ 12:49 am: Ohio Projected for Giuliani
√ (R) Rudy Giuliani: 32.1%
(D) Joe Biden: 31.0%
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 19.1%
(L) Gary Johnson: 17.5%

Ohio has just been called for Giuliani, but according to his campaign they are not going to declare victory until every final state has been called, which means we maybe here for a long while still tonigh


Current Electoral Vote Count: 12:49 am
√ Giuliani: 294
Biden: 186
Johnson: 18
Kucinich: 4

While we wait here are the latest on the Congressional races we've been following tonight. -- Tom Brokaw

Congressional Races: 2004

Senate:
Republicans: 53
Democrats: 46
Independent: 1

House:
Republicans: 230
Democrats: 201
Libertarians: 2
Green: 1

Hawaii Senate Race: D-HOLD
Idaho Senate Race: R-HOLD
Louisiana Senate Race: R-GAIN (Vitter)
North Carolina Senate Race: D-GAIN (Bowles)
Alaska Senate Race: R-HOLD
Arkansas Senate Race: D-HOLD

Another projection, this time for Gary Johnson. Johnson will win Montana. -- Tom Brokaw

√ 12:59 am: Montana Projected for Johnson
√ (L) Gary Johnson: 30.8%
(D) Joe Biden: 30.1%
(R) Rudy Giuliani: 29.4%
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 9.6%

One thing we haven't talked much about tonight is turnout. Turnout was key in this election and while we won't have the final figures for a few more days, early estimates put this a higher turnout over last year and is on charge to be the highest turnout in decades, with an estimated 127 million Americans going to the polls and voting today. -- Tom Brokaw

√ 1:04 am: Wisconsin Projected for Giuliani
√ (R) Rudy Giuliani: 38.5%
(D) Joe Biden: 37.6%
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 14.7%
(L) Gary Johnson: 9.1%

√ 1:10 am: Colorado Projected for Biden
√ (D) Joe Biden: 30.3%
(R) Rudy Giuliani: 30.2%
(L) Gary Johnson: 24.9%
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 14.5%

√ 1:46 am: Alaska Projected for Giuliani
√ (R) Rudy Giuliani: 34%
(D) Joe Biden: 29%
(L) Gary Johnson: 24%
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 12%

√ 1:57 am: Washington Projected for Kucinich
√ (G) Dennis Kucinich: 29.6%
(R) Rudy Giuliani: 28.1%
(D) Joe Biden: 26.9%
(L) Gary Johnson: 15.3%

At almost two o'clock am, eastern standard time we can project that all of the states have been counted, winners have been declared and we are reaffirming our earlier projection that Rudy Giuliani will be the 44th President of the United States of America. -- Tom Brokaw

RUDY GIULIANI ELECTED PRESIDENT
√ (R) Rudy Giuliani: 307 (36.7%)
(D) Joe Biden: 195 (34.8%)
(L) Gary Johnson: 21 (14.6%)
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 15 (13.7%)
Other: 0 (0.2%)
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« Reply #1448 on: August 17, 2014, 11:06:35 PM »

OOC: Congratulations to Giuliani! It's a relief that the election had a clear winner instead of electoral college madness (although that is a curious map), and I really hope this goes on!
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« Reply #1449 on: August 17, 2014, 11:20:58 PM »

OOC: Congrats to Giuliani! That map is pretty interesting. Tongue I've been following this game and I agree with Lumine in that I certainly hope you continue this, NHI.
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