2004 Presidential Election and Beyond: The Giuliani Years (GAME THREAD)

[badgate]

TV Ad: Homeland Insecurity



FEMALE VOICE OVER: In an increasingly dangerous world, even after the first terrorist attack on America, we need a government vigilant against threats to our homes and safety. President Bush and Rudy Giuliani shut down the Domestic Terrorism Task Force, and refuse to let it reopen. Senator Joe Biden would reopen the Domestic Terrorism Task Force on day one, making sure that we strengthen our defenses. George Bush and Rudy Giuliani have weakened those defenses, and weakness attracts those who wish to do us harm. I'm Joe Biden, and I approve this message

TV Ad: Pay-For-Play

FEMALE VOICE OVER: Now more than ever, Americans need someone who's looking out for their voice in Washington.

Giuliani's cronies as mayor accepted perks including a taxpayer-funded taxi service. Just this month, one of his appointees as Mayor plead guilty to lying under oath and receiving a vehicle purchased with $38,000 of New York's taxpayer money.

It's the the tip of the iceberg.

Giuliani appointed his best friend's son, Russell Harding, to the Housing Development Corp. He was indicted in March 2003 for defrauding the city of hundreds of thousands of dollars. And according to Harding's correspondence: this was par for the pay-for-play course:

IMAGE: [Clip of Harding's correspondence released in 2002]: "My dad is always helping the mayor with projects for money making ... And the mayor is always helping my dad as well ... he had my dad go over some contracts a while back about a company taking over the airports here ... so not only in the long run will the mayor profit from it ... but my dad already has with doing the contract ... they both have a watch each other's back thing going."

Highlighted text, read aloud by male voice over: THE MAYOR IS ALWAYS HELPING MY DAD
NOT ONLY IN THE LONG RUN WILL THE MAYOR PROFIT
MY DAD ALREADY HAS
THEY BOTH HAVE A WATCH EACH OTHER'S BACK THING



IMAGE: [Clip of Harding's correspondence released in 2002]: "Trust me ... it makes perfect sense for the line of work my dad is in ... as well as with my job ... we all help the mayor and he helps us."

Highlighted text, read aloud by male voice over: WE ALL HELP THE MAYOR AND HE HELPS US Paid for by the ACLU & League of Integrity Voters

(Ominous music)

[DKrol]

Giuliani Campaign Ad, running in the following states

A Time For Choosing

My fellow Americans, our nation is at a cross roads. We have two options - prosperity and security or distress and danger. We can be safe in our homes, or we can live under the fear of Al Quaeda. We can stand up to terrorists, or we can let them win. We can really fix our broken immigration system, or we can spew talking points. Only Rudy Giuliani is prepared to keep America on the right path - the path laid down by Thomas Jefferson, Abe Lincoln, Dwight Eisenhower, and Ronald Reagan. Paid for by the Committee to Elect Rudy Giuliani.

[badgate]

Statement from Biden for America

Biden for America is thrilled to announce that on October 7th, Senator Biden will participate in a taping of Prairie Home Companion, and will sit down during the show for an interview with Garrison Keillor. Pairie Home Companion is an international radio phenomenon that airs from 5pm to 7pm on Saturdays, and in reruns all the time during the week. The main broadcast typically receives 4 million listeners in America. UPDATE: Senator Biden has also been asked to read the show's edition of "News From Lake Wobegon."

[badgate]

Biden Campaign Schedule



October 3, 2004 Iowa
-11:00am - Campaign Rally in Davenport, w/ Sen. Tom Harkin
-12:30pm - Town Hall in Davenport
-3:15pm - Meet & Greet in Iowa City, w/ Gov. Tom Vilsack
-5:00pm - Campaign Rally in Cedar Rapids, w/ Gov. Tom Vilsack & Sen. Tom Harkin
-7:45pm - Campaign Rally in Waterloo, w/ Sen. Tom Harkin & Gov Vilsack

(Local affiliates invited to every stop)


October 4, 2004 Ohio
-10:45am - Meet & Greet in Zanesville
-1:00pm - Barnstorming in Newark
-3:45pm - Town Hall in Gahanna
-5:30pm - Campaign Rally in Columbus
-7:30pm - Town Hall in South Columbus

(Local affiliates invited to every stop)


October 5, 2004 Kentucky
-10:00am - Meet & Greet in Lexington
-11:00am - Campaign Rally in Lexington, w/ Sen. Evan Bayh, Frmr. Gov. Paul Patton & AG Greg Stumbo
-1:00pm - Barnstorm in Frankfort, w/ Sen. Evan Bayh, Frmr. Gov. Paul Patton & AG Greg Stumbo
-4:00pm - Campaign Rally in Louisville, w/ Sen. Evan Bayh, Frmr. Gov. Paul Patton & AG Greg Stumbo
-5:00pm - Barnstorm around Louisville metro, w/ Sen. Evan Bayh, Frmr. Gov. Paul Patton & AG Greg Stumbo
-7:00pm - Watching Vice Presidential debate with volunteers at Louisville field office

(Local affiliates invited to every stop)


October 6, 2004 Missouri
-11:00am - Campaign Rally in Joplin, w/ Gov. Candidate Claire McCaskill & Frmr. Sen. Jean Carnahan
-12:45pm - Town Hall in Joplin
-3:00pm - Meet & Greet in Carthage
-5:15pm - Town Hall in Republic
-7:00pm - Campaign Rally in Springfield, w/ Gov. Candidate Claire McCaskill & Frmr. Sen. Jean Carnahan
-8:30pm - Town Hall for Parents in Springfield

(Local affiliates invited to every stop)


October 7, 2004 Minnesota
-10:00am - Meet & Greet in Faribault, w/ Frmr. Vice Pres. Walter Mondale
-11:30am - Town Hall in Northfield
-1:30pm - Barnstorm in Apple Valley/Burnsville, w/ Frmr. Vice Pres. Walter Mondale
-5:00pm - Taping 'Prairie Home Companion' in St. Paul, w/ Garrison Keillor

(Local affiliates invited to every stop)

[NHI]

Alaska: Tossup

(R) Rudy Giuliani: 38%

(D) Joe Biden: 30%

(L) Gary Johnson: 19%
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 8%

Arizona: Lean Giuliani

(R) Rudy Giuliani: 45%

(D) Joe Biden: 40%

(L) Gary Johnson: 13%

Oregon: Lean Biden

(D) Joe Biden: 41%

(R) Rudy Giuliani: 33%

(L) Gary Johnson: 13%
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 9%

Nevada: Tossup

(R) Rudy Giuliani: 40%

(D) Joe Biden: 37%

(L) Gary Johnson: 11%
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 8%

New Mexico: Tossup

(D) Joe Biden: 33%

(L) Gary Johnson: 26%

(R) Rudy Giuliani: 24%

(G) Dennis Kucinich: 8%

Colorado: Lean Giuliani

(R) Rudy Giuliani: 40%

(D) Joe Biden: 33%

(L) Gary Johnson: 16%
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 8%

Minnesota: Tossup

(D) Joe Biden: 33%

(R) Rudy Giuliani: 32%

(L) Gary Johnson: 23%
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 9%

Iowa: Lean Biden

(D) Joe Biden: 41%

(R) Rudy Giuliani: 36%

(L) Gary Johnson: 10%
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 8%

Missouri: Lean Giuliani

(R) Rudy Giuliani: 42%

(D) Joe Biden: 38%

(L) Gary Johnson: 8%
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 6%

Arkansas: Lean Giuliani

(R) Rudy Giuliani: 45%

(D) Joe Biden: 41%

(L) Gary Johnson: 7%
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 3%

Wisconsin: Tossup

(R) Rudy Giuliani: 42%

(D) Joe Biden: 41%

(G) Dennis Kucinich: 9%

(L) Gary Johnson: 6%

Ohio: Tossup

(D) Joe Biden: 39%

(R) Rudy Giuliani: 39%

(L) Gary Johnson: 8%
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 8%

Virginia: Lean Giuliani

(R) Rudy Giuliani: 47%

(D) Joe Biden: 43%

(L) Gary Johnson: 8%

North Carolina: Lean Giuliani

(R) Rudy Giuliani: 48%

(D) Joe Biden: 40%

(L) Gary Johnson: 7%

Pennsylvania: Lean Biden

(D) Joe Biden: 42%

(R) Rudy Giuliani: 36%

(G) Dennis Kucinich: 9%
(L) Gary Johnson: 8%

New York: Tossup

(R) Rudy Giuliani: 46%

(D) Joe Biden: 45%

(G) Dennis Kucinich: 4%
(L) Gary Johnson: 3%

Vermont: Tossup

(G) Dennis Kucinich: 32%

(D) Joe Biden: 30%

(R) Rudy Giuliani: 24%

(L) Gary Johnson: 11%

Florida: Tossup

(R) Rudy Giuliani: 44%

(D) Joe Biden: 44%

(L) Gary Johnson: 6%
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 5%

New Hampshire: Tossup

(R) Rudy Giuliani: 38%

(D) Joe Biden: 36%

(L) Gary Johnson: 15%

(G) Dennis Kucinich: 7%

Maine: Tossup

(D) Joe Biden: 40%

(R) Rudy Giuliani: 39%

(G) Dennis Kucinich: 9%

(L) Gary Johnson: 7%

[NHI]

Electoral Map as of October 3, 2004:

(R) Rudy Giuliani: 210

(D) Joe Biden: 173

Tossup: 155

NBC/Wall St. Journal Poll: October 2004

(R) Rudy Giuliani: 40%

(D) Joe Biden: 40%

(L) Gary Johnson: 10%
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 8%

Two-Man Race: Poll October 2004

(R) Rudy Giuliani: 47%

(D) Joe Biden: 46%

[badgate]

OOC: Sorry, I know I already requested a lot, but looking at your map I want to request Montana, the Dakotas, Indiana, Kentucky, Michigan, Connecticut, and Georgia too. I think some of my fellow players will want to see those too (I assume Johnson is probably the cause of the Dakotas being light blue, for example)

[NHI]

North Dakota: Tossup

(R) Rudy Giuliani: 46%

(D) Joe Biden: 40%

(L) Gary Johnson: 13%

South Dakota: Tossup

(R) Rudy Giuliani: 48%

(D) Joe Biden: 40%

(L) Gary Johnson: 10%

Montana: Tossup

(R) Rudy Giuliani: 40%

(D) Joe Biden: 39%

(L) Gary Johnson: 15%

(G) Dennis Kucinich: 5%

Indiana: Tossup

(R) Rudy Giuliani: 45%

(D) Joe Biden: 42%

(L) Gary Johnson: 7%
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 4%

Kentucky: Tossup

(R) Rudy Giuliani: 48%

(D) Joe Biden: 44%

(L) Gary Johnson: 7%

Georgia: Tossup

(R) Rudy Giuliani: 46%

(D) Joe Biden: 39%

(L) Gary Johnson: 9%
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 3.5%

Connecticut: Tossup

(R) Rudy Giuliani: 42%

(D) Joe Biden: 42%

(G) Dennis Kucinich: 9%
(L) Gary Johnson: 4%

Michigan: Tossup

(D) Joe Biden: 42%

(R) Rudy Giuliani: 41%

(L) Gary Johnson: 9%
(G) Dennis Kucinich: 6%

[badgate]

OOC: I have updated the map for my ads this turn

[badgate]

Biden Surrogates

October 3-7, 2004


Arizona
CO AG Ken Salazar
Rep. Mark Udall
Rep. Henry Waxman
Gov. Jerry Brown
Rep. Luis Gutierrez
Gov. Bill Richardson
Gov. Janet Napolitano
Rep. Barbara Lee
Sen. Harry Reid

Arkansas
Pres. Bill Clinton
Rep. Ted Strickland
Gov. Mike Easley
Sen. Max Cleland
Sen. Paul Sarbanes
Rep. Joe Hoeffel
Gov. Kathleen Sebelius

Connecticut
Sen. Ted Kennedy
Sen. Jack Reed
Rep. Patrick J. Kennedy
Sen. Daniel Inouye
Sen. Maria Cantwell
Sen. Joe Lieberman

Florida
Sen. Bob Graham
Bill Gates
Sen. Bill Nelson
Gov. Kathleen Blanco
Gov. Douglas Wilder
Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee
Rep. Donna Christian-Christensen
Gov. Tony Knowles

Indiana
Rep. Gene Taylor
Rep. Bennie Thompson
Gov. Phil Bredensen
Rep. Harold Ford, Jr.
Rep. Bud Cramer
Sen. Tom Harkin
Gov. Joe Kernan

Kentucky
Rep. Sherrod Brown
Rep. Stephanie Tubbs Jones
Gov. Ed Rendell
Rep. Ben Chandler
Gov. Ann Richards
Frmr. Gov. Paul Patton
Attorney General Greg Stumbo
Rep. Lloyd Doggett
Sen. Jay Rockefeller
Rep. Mel Watts
Sen. John Edwards

Maine
Rep. Diana DeGette
Sen. Olympia Snowe

Michigan
Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick
Rep. Bobby Rush
Sen. Carol Moseley Braun
Rep. Rahm Emanuel
Sen. Hillary Clinton

Minnesota
Sen. Mark Dayton
Rep. Betty McCollum
Rep. Martin Olav Sabo
Mayor Randy Kelly
Mayor R.T. Rybak

Montana
Mayor John Hickenlooper
Vice Pres. Walter Mondale
Sen. Max Baucus
Brian Schweitzer
Sen. Tom Daschle
Gov. Dave Freudenthal

New Hampshire
Rep. Barbara Lee
Sen. Harry Reid
Pres. Jimmy Carter
Rep. Jesse Jackson, Jr.
Rep. Tammy Baldwin
State Sen. Allyson Schwartz
Judy Shepard

New York
Sen. Herb Kohl
Sen. John Kerry
Oprah Winfrey
Jesse Jackson
Rev. Al Sharpton

Vermont
Rep. Jim Langevin
Rep. Richard Neal
Sen. Patrick Leahy
Sen. Arlen Specter

Wisconsin
Pres. Jimmy Carter
Rep. Jesse Jackson, Jr.
Rep. Tammy Baldwin
State Sen. Allyson Schwartz
Judy Shepard

Map of Surrogates:

[badgate]

Ross for Arkansas Campaign (Surrogate Schedule)



October 3, 2004 Arkansas
-Meet & Greet in Texarkana
-Speech on minimum wage in Hope
-Town Hall in Arkadelphia
-Campaign Rally in Hot Springs, w/ AG Mike Beebe

(Local affiliates invited to every stop


October 4, 2004 Arkansas
-Campaign Rally in Pine Bluff, w/ Frmr. Pres. Bill Clinton & AG Mike Beebe
-Town Hall in Benton
-Campaign Rally in Little Rock, w/ Frmr. Pres. Bill Clinton & AG Mike Beebe Frmr. Pres. Bill Clinton & Attorney General Mike Beebe endorse Congressman Mike Ross for Senate
-Interview with Little Rock Evening News

(Local affiliates invited to every stop



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October 5, 2004 Arkansas
-Meet & Greet in Paragould
-Town Hall in Jonesboro
-Campaign Rally in Jonesboro, w/ AG Mike Beebe
-Barnstorm in Walnut Ridge, w/ AG Mike Beebe

(Local affiliates invited to every stop


October 6, 2004 Arkansas
-Barnstorm in Newport, w/ AG Mike Beebe
-Town Hall in Batesville
-Campaign Rally in Bald Knob, w/ AG Mike Beebe
-Meet & Greet in Searcy

(Local affiliates invited to every stop



"Arkansas, this is a special election for our great state. This November I will be so proud to cast my vote for our favorite daughter, Senator Blanhe Lincoln, for Vice President! And to the great Senator Joe Biden for President!

Now, I am running to replace Senator Lincoln, and I promise to put Arkansas first. In our state's capital, I cut my teeth as a deal-making Democrat. Together with Attorney General Mike Beebe, I passed the Arkansas Academic Challenge scholarship program. And I am proud to say that the first bill I enter into the United States Senate will be a national version of this great Arkansas program. Students all over America deserve to have the same opportunity to reach their dreams of a higher education and we will make it happen! And next year, President Biden is going to sign that bill, and make it law!" (cheers)

October 7, 2004 Arkansas
-Meet & Greet in Bella Vista
-Barnstorm in Bentonville
-Campaign Rally in Rogers, w/ Frmr. Pres. Bill Clinton
-Barnstorm in Springdale, w/ Frmr. Pres. Bill Clinton
-Tow Hall in Fayetteville

(Local affiliates invited to every stop

[JerryArkansas]

Senator Evan Bayh Campaign Schedule.
(Biden Surrogate)

October 3, 2004 Indiana
- Meet & Greet in Terri Haute
- Campaign Rally in Bloomington
- Barnstorm in Bloomington
- Campaign Rally in Bloomington
- Barnstorm around Louisville metro

October 4, 2004 Indiana
- Meet & Greet in Evansville
- Campaign Rally in Evansville
- Barnstorm in Washington

October 5, 2004 Kentucky
- Meet & Greet in Lexington
- Campaign Rally in Lexington, w/ Sen. Biden, Frmr. Gov. Paul Patton & AG Greg Stumbo
- Barnstorm in Frankfort, w/ Sen. Biden, Frmr. Gov. Paul Patton & AG Greg Stumbo
- Campaign Rally in Louisville, w/ Sen. Biden, Frmr. Gov. Paul Patton & AG Greg Stumbo
- Barnstorm around Louisville metro, w/ Sen. Biden, Frmr. Gov. Paul Patton & AG Greg Stumbo
- Watching Vice Presidential debate with volunteers at Louisville field office

October 6, 2004 Indiana
- Meet & Greet in Gary
- Campaign Rally in Griffith
- Barnstorm in Merryville
- Campaign Rally in Hobart

October 7, 2004 Indiana
- Meet & Greet in Michigan City
- Campaign Rally in South Bend
- Barnstorm in Elkart

Speech in South Bend
"Over the past few weeks talking to the people of Indiana, I keep hearing the same thing, how is Guliani going to fix our Country.  He points out problems, but what are his solutions.  I'm here Rudy and me and all of America is listening.  Don't dodge and beat around the bush, middle America hate that."

[Warren 4 Secretary of Everything]

Blanche Lincoln Debate Response

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"First if all, I'd like to thank you Gwen, for agreeing to moderate this debate and Case Western Reserve for hosting. It is so good that each of us can get our ideas out into the public conscience and help the voters make an informed electoral decision. It's also a great honor to have a woman moderating. We're in the same boat sister.

On to your question though,I feel the contrasts between our candidacies are clear: Senator Biden and I have actually been presenting plans and ideas to help move this country forward. Now it's one thing to actually run on a platform and another to run on platitudes while pretending you have any idea what you want to do.

Our opponent represents the ideas of the past and nothing but a continuation of the Bush/Cheney Doctrine of invade now, ask questions later. A retread of policies that favor the wealthy and those at the top, while completely ignoring the needs and problems of working families. Senator Biden has spent his entire career fighting for the Middle Class, and in Arkansas I've done the same."

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"What Massachusetts has done is bold, but i'm not sure it's the right choice for the whole country. Senator Biden is a faithful Catholic, and I am a lifelong Episcopal. Our faith informs us and brings us to compassion and acceptance of gay couples; we know from the teachings of The Lord that it is not our place to assign sin or punish for them.

And Senator Biden and I are in full support of the rights afforded by civil unions: hospital visitation, benefits when somebody loses a loved one, the ability to file taxes jointly. But marriage should be left to the states. America obviously is not done discussing this issue. We are immensely supportive of that conversation and encourage all Americans to see both sides before deciding a stance. Otherwise we would be doing ourselves a disservice. We fully support states rights and the power of the Tenth Amendment."

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"With regards to this question, I regret to inform you that its premise is false. When the Bush administration presented Congress and the public with false information, that information made it completely justified to remove Saddam Hussein from his reckless reign of power.

But Senator Biden was on the Foreign Affairs committee that met with President Bush. The President, his Vice President, advisors, Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld and NSA Rice all lied to the Senators on the committee. To their face.

Look, when a kid spills milk you make them clean it up to learn a lesson. But this isn't just some spilled milk. This is about the lives of our military members, and the Bush administration swindled the country into putting their lives in danger based upon untrue information.

What can be said about Hussein is that his regime kept peace between the Sunni and Shiite factions of Iraq, and without him we are seeing the beginnings of a civil war. Senator Biden and I are the only realistic option to make sure these problems and messes caused by Bush are fixed responsibly with as little loss of life as possible."

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"Over the past four years we've experienced a cycle of tragedy, national solidarity, and anger. More than any time in recent history, America's destiny is not of our own choosing. We did not seek nor did we provoke an assault on our freedoms and our way of life. We did not expect nor did we invite a confrontation with evil. Yet the true measure of a people's strength is how they rise to master that moment when it does arrive. But facing us now, in this election, is a choice.

Will we continue on a path of untethered war in far off foreign lands? Or will we put in place policies that invest in the infrastructure here at home? Will we provide cuts and breaks for those at the top who've enjoyed an easy ride from the Bush Administration, or will we help raise the boats of working families everywhere? Senator Biden and I put our money in you, the American people. And in November, we're counting on your vote. Thank you, and goodnight."

[badgate]

Lincoln Campaign Schedule

Statement from Biden for America
For debate prep for the Vice Presidential debate, Senator Lincoln is thrilled to welcome three challenging and vigorous debaters to the prep sessions. Former Governor of Texas Ann Richards will fill in for Senator Kay Hutchison. Senator Patrick Leahy will stand in as Congressman Bernie Sanders, and Senator Tom Harkin will represent former Governor Jesse Ventura.

October 3, 2004 Florida
-Interview with school newspaper at Florida State University
-Q&A at Florida State University
-Meet & Greet in Tallahassee
-Debate Prep at DoubleTree by Hilton hotel in Tallahassee

October 4, 2004 New Hampshire
-Meet & Greet at Moultonborough
-Speech on environmental conservation outside White Mountain National Forest
-Campaign Rally in Concord
-Debate Prep at Centennial Hotel in Concord

October 5, 2004 Ohio
-Interview on New Day Cleveland
-Rest
-Vice Presidential Debate

October 6, 2004 Montana
-Meet & Greet in Butte, w/ Gov. Candidate Brian Schweitzer
-Campaign Rally in Billings, w/ Gov. Candidate Brian Schweitzer
-Town Hall in Kalispell
-Campaign Rally in Great Falls, w/ Gov. Candidate Brian Schweitzer
-Satellite interview with Larry King Live

October 7, 2004 Kentucky
-Interview with school newspaper at Western Kentucky University
-Student Forum at Western Kentucky University
-Campaign Rally in Bowling Green, w/ AG Greg Stumbo
-Town Hall in Owensboro
-Meet & Greet in Henderson, w/ frmr. Gov. Paul Patton

[MadmanMotley]

Jesse Ventura Debate Responses:

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Well to start with, unlike the rest of them, I've had experience as Governor of Minnesota, and served in the military. I know how to act as an independent voice, rather than towing party line unlike others here on stage. I have proven and  tested leadership. Unlike the rest I don't have a party platform that I am confined to, instead only ideas that will make America great again.

I don't owe any political favors either, I am not a Washington insider, I am here to lead and get the job done rather than to push an agenda. I know what the military needs, and it isn't big spending, but efficiency. I know our how our foreign policy should work. When you vote Gary Johnson/Jesse Ventura this November you can rest assured that you have a President and Vice-President making this country right. Not someone who has to follow party lines.

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I find this whole argument rather ridiculous! Why is the Government even authorized to give licenses and say who can and cannot get married? That's an individual's choice! Saying that the government has the authority to give licenses dealing in affairs that it has no business in! This is a direct violation of our civil liberties! Instead we should have civil unions for all, different religions and people groups have different definitions of marriage, the government should remain neutral on the issue. As Vice-President I would challenge the Constitutionality of these licenses. This is taking the government too far into our personal lives.

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First off is to create economic recovery zones in those areas to help stimulate the economy. We need to create more jobs and get businesses off the ground in those areas. Secondly is improve the quality of our public education system, and help create students who are able to work or are able to go to college. Then we need to eliminate the Federal Income tax and replace it with a national sales tax that exempts necessities like Food, Water, Clothing and Medicine. That's also not taking into account that the crime rate affects jobs! No company wants to take their jobs to a city with a high tax rate or a high crime rate. We should reduce penalties for non-violent crime and work on improving the education system so we don't have more kids getting involved in crime.

As a national executive, there is only so much the federal government can do for a city. The best option in Cleveland is a shakeup of leadership. That is why we need more independents in office, so that we can think up original solutions rather than tow a party line.

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First off I'd like to thank all the other candidates for coming out tonight, our moderator Gwen here, and everyone who tuned in to hear all of us. Our country is a great one founded on great principles, and that is something we need to return to. President Washington warned against political parties, and it is obvious why. We need an independent voice, one who will do what is best for America, not the best for their party. We need to continue a fight for liberty, that fight is never ending, we the American people must be ever vigilant, and that is why Governor Johnson and I are running.

Our fight is for you, the American people, to win an upward battle for peace and prosperity. We bring an independent voice, one not tied down to a party label. We are not beholden to lobbyists, political favors, or big money backers. We as President and Vice-President are beholden to you, the American Public. Let's fight for the Constitution, let's fight for liberty and prosperity, let's fight for you, the every-day American! Thank you and good night.

[MadmanMotley]

Gary Johnson TV and Radio ad:
To be played in the following states:

Today we need a leader, not one beholden to political favors, not someone who has been bought by lobbyists. We need a leader who can rise above party politics, a leader who is an outsider to Washington. A leader that is beholden only to the people he serves. Gary Johnson did that has Governor of New Mexico, now he is bringing his leadership to the national level. As president he will not be tied down with political favors, instead he will choose what is best for the country as a whole. Let's take Washington back, let's vote Gary Johnson.

[MadmanMotley]

Gary Johnson Surrogates:

Gov. Jesse Ventura:
Debate prep with Ross Perot

Rep. Ron Paul:
Barnstorming Texas

Governor Buddy Roemer:
GOTV operations in Texas

Rep. Barry Goldwater:
Barnstorming California

Clint Eastwood:
Barnstorming Montana

Rep. Bob Barr:
Barnstorming Wyoming

Gov. William Weld:
Barnstorming Maine

Drew Carey:
Comedy Tour/Fundraiser for Johnson

Rep. Joe Scarborough:
Barnstorming Massachusetts

Paul Craig Roberts:
Fundraising

National Rifle Association and GOA:
Running Mail and TV Ads supporting Johnson's stance on the 2nd amendment in Ad running states

Sen. Dirk Kempthrone:
Barnstorming Wyoming

Sen. Scott McCallum:
Barnstorming Minnesota

Gov. Arne Carlson:
Barnstorming Michigan

Sarah Palin:
Barnstorming Alaska

Harry Browne:
Barnstorming New Mexico

Ross Perot:
Barnstorming Texas/Debate Prep with Ventura

Mark Souder:
Barnstorming Ohio

[badgate]

ooc: I added a statement to Lincoln's schedule.

[MadmanMotley]

Gary Johnson Campaign Schedule:


October 3rd:
Rally and GOTV in Portland, ME
Town Hall and GOTV in South Portland, ME
Barnstorm and GOTV in Bath, ME

October 4th:
Town Hall and GOTV in Lewiston, ME
Barnstorm and GOTV in Auburn, ME
Barnstorm and GOTV in Gardiner, ME

October 5th:
Barnstorm and GOTV in Rockland, ME
Town Hall and GOTV in Augusta, ME
Barnstorm/GOTV and Town Hall in Waterville, ME

October 6th:
Barnstorm/GOTV and Town Hall in Belfast, ME
Town Hall and GOTV in Ellsworth, ME
Rally, Town Hall and GOTV in Bangor, ME

October 7th:
Barnstorm and GOTV in Berlin, NH
Rally and Town Hall in Rochester, NH
Town Hall and GOTV in Dover, NH

[NHI]

I do not see Sanders' responses. I will give it it to the end of tonight, if everyone is agreeable?

[DKrol]

I do not see Sanders' responses. I will give it it to the end of tonight, if everyone is agreeable?

Sure

[DKrol]

OOC: Since we're extending this for Sanders, here's my surrogates.

Giuliani Surrogates

Gov. George Pataki
Barnstorming in New York

Mayor Michael Bloomberg
Fundraising in New York

Senator John McCain
Barnstorming in Colorado

Governor Angus King
Barnstorming in New Hampshire

Fmr. First Lady Nancy Reagan
Barnstorming in New York

Senator George Voinovich
Barnstorming in Ohio

Mr. Sheldon Adelson
Fundraising in Nevada

Former President Jerry Ford
Barnstorming in New York

Governor Terry Branstad
Barnstorming in Iowa

Senator Kit Bond
Barnstorming in Iowa

House Majority Whip Roy Blunt
Barnstorming in Iowa

Mr. John Elway
Barnstorming in New Hampshire

Senator Norm Coleman
Barnstorming in Iowa

Governor Pete Wilson
Barnstorming in Nevada

Former Vice President Dan Quayle
Barnstorming in Nevada

Former Senator Howard Baker
Barnstorming in Virginia

Senator Lamar Alexander
Barnstorming in Virginia

House Speaker Dennis Hastert
Barnstorming in Iowa

Former Senator Fred Thompson
Barnstorming in Virginia

Senator Larry Pressler
Barnstorming in Montana

Governor John Hoeven
Barnstorming in Montana

Governor Mike Rounds
Barnstorming in Montana

Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger
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[MadmanMotley]

I do not see Sanders' responses. I will give it it to the end of tonight, if everyone is agreeable?

Sure

I'm ok with that.

[badgate]

OOC: Clearly VP Giuliani used his motorcade to tie up traffic to keep Sanders from getting to the debate on time.

[DKrol]

OOC: Clearly VP Giuliani used his motorcade to tie up traffic to keep Sanders from getting to the debate on time.

OOC: Gosh, could you be more wrong? I had the TSA take him "in the back" for extra screening. (Take that anyway you wish )