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« Reply #125 on: May 01, 2014, 09:58:04 AM »

If the administration does not have their proposal ready, it may make more sense to deal with the minimum wage issue in a separate bill.  I'd like to go ahead and get this one passed.
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« Reply #126 on: May 01, 2014, 10:01:10 AM »

If the administration does not have their proposal ready, it may make more sense to deal with the minimum wage issue in a separate bill.  I'd like to go ahead and get this one passed.

The administration has a proposal, however, it doesn't make sense to bring it forward until Yankee's amendment is considered.
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« Reply #127 on: May 01, 2014, 10:13:47 AM »

I think you guys should proceed with disgussing the tipped employees proposal then and that way once mine is concluded, we can address that and have this at vote early next week or even this weekend if everything goes as planned.


There may indeed need to be another bill on the minimum wage issue, but at the very least you had wanted to include a correction of FLSA's excesses in this and we already did the contract thing, I think we can at the very least deal with the main minimum wage as well.
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« Reply #128 on: May 01, 2014, 07:22:28 PM »

Objection to the amendment that desires to cut Section 1 from the FLSA.

Here's the text of Section 1, by the way:

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« Reply #129 on: May 01, 2014, 08:29:55 PM »

I shall not stand to see this passed, and will fight with every breath in my body against Sen. Yankee's crusade against the working class.
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« Reply #130 on: May 02, 2014, 09:33:19 AM »
« Edited: May 02, 2014, 09:41:24 AM by Senator North Carolina Yankee »

I shall not stand to see this passed, and will fight with every breath in my body against Sen. Yankee's crusade against the working class.

I shall not stand to see these vicious attacks go unchallenged Senator Alfred. I at least don't think that it is possible to escape the laws of economics simply by slapping the word working class all over the idea in the hopes that repetition will breed truth.

I might be up for preserving clauses 1 and 2, but the rest of it has got to go. This body has changed the minimum wage every year and some cases more then once per year for every year that I have been here.

I also think that Marokai, Snowstalker, and Napoleon would love to know that they are likewise engaging in a crusade against workers.

I have a long record of pushing for a living wage. However, there is a smart way and a stupid way to go about it and I think I have done my best to ensure it was done in a smart a way as possible with the least expense on jobs.
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« Reply #131 on: May 02, 2014, 09:48:56 AM »
« Edited: May 02, 2014, 09:58:30 AM by Senator North Carolina Yankee »

There are more moving parts then I recalled being in Section of FLSA, therefore I am withdrawing my current amendment and offering this one.

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4. Section 1, clauses 3-5 of the Fair Labor Standards Act of 2013 are repealed with the remaining clauses renumbered accordingly. The words in the new clause three (formerly clause six), "the latter" shall be replaced with the words "the increase in worker productivity"

4 5. It shall be the policy of the Atlasian Federal Government and all its agencies that any gap(s) in an applicant's employment shall not in itself be considered a basis for disqualification or nonconsideration for employment or contract
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« Reply #132 on: May 02, 2014, 10:09:38 AM »

I don't understand what you are doing Yankee.
Why are you inserting something in the final clause about increases in worker productivity?   

Tying the minimum wage to increases in productivity is just sick in my view, and the absolute worst part of our minimum wage law.  It means that those increases cannot be used to expand and hire new workers. It also means that those businesses without the capital investments that lead to greater productivity are put at further disadvantage - they haven't increased productivity, but still they have to pay the higher labor costs. 

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« Reply #133 on: May 02, 2014, 10:39:57 AM »

I don't understand what you are doing Yankee.
Why are you inserting something in the final clause about increases in worker productivity?  

Tying the minimum wage to increases in productivity is just sick in my view, and the absolute worst part of our minimum wage law.  It means that those increases cannot be used to expand and hire new workers. It also means that those businesses without the capital investments that lead to greater productivity are put at further disadvantage - they haven't increased productivity, but still they have to pay the higher labor costs.  

I am narrowing the focus of the change to just clause three through five. That is already in the FLSA, I am just moving it since I am removing clauses 4 and 5, which it uses to create such by way of a subsequent refference. Primarily because you had cast doubt on the practicality of addressing this issue in this bill, so I went with the more narrow approach and minimized the amount of controverisal changes to the law in question based on what you stated you desired with regards to the bill.
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« Reply #134 on: May 02, 2014, 10:42:21 AM »

If you prefer, I will make it 3-6 instead of 3-5, shua.
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« Reply #135 on: May 02, 2014, 12:05:10 PM »

I object to that amendment.
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« Reply #136 on: May 02, 2014, 12:41:38 PM »

If you prefer, I will make it 3-6 instead of 3-5, shua.

I would prefer that. 

I was thinking "the latter" was a reference to "national cost of living."  It's not very clear.   
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« Reply #137 on: May 03, 2014, 06:03:46 AM »

If you prefer, I will make it 3-6 instead of 3-5, shua.

I would prefer that. 

I was thinking "the latter" was a reference to "national cost of living."  It's not very clear.   

You know something, that is probably what it is suppose to be and I totally misread it myself.
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« Reply #138 on: May 03, 2014, 06:06:52 AM »

Amendment Withdrawn, again.

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4. Section 1, clauses 3-6 of the Fair Labor Standards Act of 2013 are repealed with the remaining clauses renumbered accordingly.

4 5. It shall be the policy of the Atlasian Federal Government and all its agencies that any gap(s) in an applicant's employment shall not in itself be considered a basis for disqualification or nonconsideration for employment or contract
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« Reply #139 on: May 03, 2014, 09:51:29 AM »

I object.

I will not stand idly by while the right attacks workers' living standards.
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« Reply #140 on: May 04, 2014, 08:49:18 AM »

None of the wages in question have gone into effect yet, man.

I support a living wage indexed to inflation, it is hardly an attack on living standards just because I prefer to keep in text the other key variables of employment (hence my actions here) and the localized conditions relative to such (hence my support for Right Wages for Right Regions back two years ago) in consideration when enacting such a policy.

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« Reply #141 on: May 05, 2014, 05:34:20 AM »
« Edited: May 05, 2014, 03:25:04 PM by Cincinnatus »

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4. Section 1, clauses 3-6 of the Fair Labor Standards Act of 2013 are repealed with the remaining clauses renumbered accordingly.

4 5. It shall be the policy of the Atlasian Federal Government and all its agencies that any gap(s) in an applicant's employment shall not in itself be considered a basis for disqualification or nonconsideration for employment or contract
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« Reply #142 on: May 05, 2014, 06:31:25 AM »

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« Reply #143 on: May 05, 2014, 10:58:25 AM »

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« Reply #144 on: May 05, 2014, 02:12:09 PM »

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« Reply #145 on: May 05, 2014, 03:01:55 PM »

AYE


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« Reply #146 on: May 05, 2014, 05:14:57 PM »

AYE
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« Reply #147 on: May 05, 2014, 06:13:09 PM »

Nay
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« Reply #148 on: May 06, 2014, 05:44:41 AM »

Nay
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« Reply #149 on: May 08, 2014, 03:55:33 PM »

Vote on Amendment 61:01 by NC Yankee

Aye (4): DC al Fine, Goldwater, NC Yankee and shua
Nay (3): bore, TNF and TyrionthEImperialist
Abstain (0):

Didn't Vote (3): Adam Griffin, Alfred F. Jones and Lumine

The amendment has been adopted.

Duke? Cincy? Where are we with the Tipped section?
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