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Question: Would you support a reboot of Atlasia?
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Total Voters: 45

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« on: March 30, 2014, 12:53:44 AM »

This would mean all laws repealed, we would need to create a new federal government, regional governments, new laws, etc.
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« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2014, 12:54:26 AM »

Support 100%.
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« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2014, 12:57:33 AM »

I'm not sure, though this game could use a kick in the pants.
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« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2014, 12:58:41 AM »

I'm not sure, though this game could use a kick in the pants.

We should have went the whole way during the Great Dissolution but we half-assed and ended right back where we were to begin with due to that neglect.
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« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2014, 01:26:46 AM »

I'm not sure, though this game could use a kick in the pants.

I agree with this.

But I worry this ends up being like the 'game reform' debate, it's all about busy work and keeping people occupied until such time as people get bored again.
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« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2014, 01:50:03 AM »

Everyone just place your confidence in me and I'll use my god-like powers to render everything null and void
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« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2014, 02:01:58 AM »

I voted no, but I understand where the sentiment is coming from. I agree that "something" needs to be done (not entirely sure what), but erasing a legacy of accomplishment isn't the way to do it.

I mean, we can make some radical changes in the present... but to press delete on everything seemed a little absurd.
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« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2014, 02:07:19 AM »

I voted no, but I understand where the sentiment is coming from. I agree that "something" needs to be done (not entirely sure what), but erasing a legacy of accomplishment isn't the way to do it.

I mean, we can make some radical changes in the present... but to press delete on everything seemed a little absurd.

At the very least, you could delete 19 of your posts so our counts sync up.
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« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2014, 02:08:06 AM »

I voted no, but I understand where the sentiment is coming from. I agree that "something" needs to be done (not entirely sure what), but erasing a legacy of accomplishment isn't the way to do it.

I mean, we can make some radical changes in the present... but to press delete on everything seemed a little absurd.

I don't think a reboot will actually fix anything.
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« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2014, 02:26:57 AM »

I voted no, but I understand where the sentiment is coming from. I agree that "something" needs to be done (not entirely sure what), but erasing a legacy of accomplishment isn't the way to do it.

I mean, we can make some radical changes in the present... but to press delete on everything seemed a little absurd.

At the very least, you could delete 19 of your posts so our counts sync up.

What's your message count at? Tongue
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« Reply #10 on: March 30, 2014, 02:31:12 AM »

I voted no, but I understand where the sentiment is coming from. I agree that "something" needs to be done (not entirely sure what), but erasing a legacy of accomplishment isn't the way to do it.

I mean, we can make some radical changes in the present... but to press delete on everything seemed a little absurd.

At the very least, you could delete 19 of your posts so our counts sync up.

What's your message count at? Tongue

2433. Are we still in sync on that, too? Cheesy
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« Reply #11 on: March 30, 2014, 02:34:45 AM »

Strongly oppose.  It's not going to fix anything.
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« Reply #12 on: March 30, 2014, 02:56:06 AM »

I voted no, but I understand where the sentiment is coming from. I agree that "something" needs to be done (not entirely sure what), but erasing a legacy of accomplishment isn't the way to do it.

I mean, we can make some radical changes in the present... but to press delete on everything seemed a little absurd.

At the very least, you could delete 19 of your posts so our counts sync up.

What's your message count at? Tongue

2433. Are we still in sync on that, too? Cheesy

Ooh, no. You're an even 200 ahead. I guess that's what happens when you retake control of the beast. Hopefully I will not find myself following your lead.
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« Reply #13 on: March 30, 2014, 03:21:23 AM »

No way.
In the Midwest, we have passed a lot of bills, I would be piss off to have to delete all this work.
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« Reply #14 on: March 30, 2014, 06:29:59 AM »

Interesting to see that yes is so far ahead (current vote is 13 to 6) but I suspect that lack all reforms, major or minor it will start popular and gradually drain support.

I, along with quite a few other senators, said this at the time of the mental health bill, and others have said it since, but, in my view, the major problem with atlasia is our current policy, especially on a federal level is almost impenetrable. The reason I, and I suspect many other senators, mainly propose bills over game reform, or minor programmes or simple issues like, say, abortion is because on the big important issues like education or healthcare I don't know what the law actually is. I suppose I could find out by doing hours of research into what the current statue is about, but that's not fun at all, and if the games not fun, it's not worth playing.

Seeing as this is seemingly a live issue, I've proposed a bill on the senate floor to get the ball rolling, repealing all laws on the books. I  don't expect (or even necessarily want) the bill to pass, but it's important to get the conversation started.
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« Reply #15 on: March 30, 2014, 06:54:18 AM »

I like in some ways that idea but a full reset looks pretty terrible to me...
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« Reply #16 on: March 30, 2014, 07:31:49 AM »

Terrible idea, like usual, like it always has been.
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« Reply #17 on: March 30, 2014, 07:37:26 AM »

What we need is a 'GM reset'. There's been a lot of stuff our GMs/SoEAs/SoIAs have done that's great, but it wasn't recorded anywhere on the Wiki as having happened - I know there's been significant changes in Cuba and some sort of uprising in Venezuela (might've been Colombia) but since it happened a couple years ago nobody remembers it and it's not part of our game's consciousness. The game has also developed leftist majorities on so many issues that some things are overlegislated - current military spending is less than half of what it is IRL. To be spending at those levels you would need to have legislation specifying what programs have been cut, but we haven't done that, since every left-wing majority always wants to cut the military and it doesn't seem like much compared to last time, but the policy's been repeated over years.
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« Reply #18 on: March 30, 2014, 08:04:47 AM »

A full reset of the national government yes. But not one jot or tittle of the regional governments should change.
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« Reply #19 on: March 30, 2014, 09:08:57 AM »

I'd be open to it, but I don't think we should erase the history so to say (example, we should not restart the President count...)

I think updating the Wiki more often would help...but its a pain in the butt.
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« Reply #20 on: March 30, 2014, 09:58:22 AM »
« Edited: March 30, 2014, 10:16:10 AM by DemPGH »

Lean no. Depends on what it is to accomplish.

Practically, I very doubt doubt that it would fix anything, would probably result in a big play for power, and since we could not agree to reduce the regions to four or even combine two of them, I think a reboot would be a major cluster, IMO.

Conceptually, I am very open to it and intrigued by it.
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« Reply #21 on: March 30, 2014, 10:08:44 AM »

Strongly support
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« Reply #22 on: March 30, 2014, 10:13:29 AM »

Completely undecided, but I'll vote "no" for now.
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« Reply #23 on: March 30, 2014, 01:19:47 PM »

A legislative reboot? Sure. A full reboot, abolishing the state of government as we know it? No.
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« Reply #24 on: March 30, 2014, 01:31:21 PM »

Personally, I think the aftereffects of such a move would be a nightmare.  Many current laws would be reintroduced anyway and the Senate would have to consider everything all over again, including statutes that are vital to the game.  So much work has gone into making Atlasia what it is today, as imperfect as it may be.  A full reboot would mean repealing literally an entire decade of other people's work without fair debate and consideration.

It's also totally unrealistic.  I mean, I know this is a game and all, but a country cannot simply "reset" itself when bad things happen.  It needs to face its problems head-on.

But, if we're going to restart everything, we might as well elect a fresh new batch of senators and hold a new presidential election, as well, because letting all the incumbents rebuild everything from scratch sounds like a huge power grab to me.
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