1884 Western Alliance Convention

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

Typical problem with left-wingers in this game is they actively & vocally plan out their world domination to an annoying extent. It's understandable that yes, your guys are due for a victory or two about now, but I've always been uncomfortable with you guys lining up your little social democratic ducks in a row & being so open about it.

[Zioneer]

Typical problem with left-wingers in this game is they actively & vocally plan out their world domination to an annoying extent. It's understandable that yes, your guys are due for a victory or two about now, but I've always been uncomfortable with you guys lining up your little social democratic ducks in a row & being so open about it.

Sorry Cathcon. I actually would like more randomness and new issues in the game (like a war or two), but that's just me. I'm just thinking about how my end of the Radical party would probably do things.

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

Typical problem with left-wingers in this game is they actively & vocally plan out their world domination to an annoying extent. It's understandable that yes, your guys are due for a victory or two about now, but I've always been uncomfortable with you guys lining up your little social democratic ducks in a row & being so open about it.

Social democratic? You underestimate us, Cathy .

[Zioneer]

Before this ends, I'd just like to repeat my support for a Harrison/Smith or a Smith/Harrison ticket.

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

Before this ends, I'd just like to repeat my support for a Harrison/Smith or a Smith/Harrison ticket.

This. Weaver may have his time in the future. Or not. Who knows?

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Before this ends, I'd just like to repeat my support for a Harrison/Smith or a Smith/Harrison ticket.

What about Harrison/Weaver?

[Zioneer]

Before this ends, I'd just like to repeat my support for a Harrison/Smith or a Smith/Harrison ticket.

What about Harrison/Weaver?

Well, from what I understand Weaver is anti-immigrant... And at this moment in history (which will likely remain the same in this instance), many Mormons are British or Scandinavian immigrants. So I don't know if Weaver would want to reconcile with the Mormon faction within the Radicals. Harrison though, I have no problem with him.

EDIT: Oops, misread your question, I thought you mentioned Smith in your post. I personally would prefer a Mormon somewhere on the ticket, as there has been a Mormon on the ticket for years. And as I said, the Mormons might be queasy with Weaver. Don't know if the Harrisonites would be uncomfortable with that sort of alliance, though.

[Goldwater]

Typical problem with left-wingers in this game is they actively & vocally plan out their world domination to an annoying extent. It's understandable that yes, your guys are due for a victory or two about now, but I've always been uncomfortable with you guys lining up your little social democratic ducks in a row & being so open about it.

Yeah, this is something that has bugged me too.

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

Before this ends, I'd just like to repeat my support for a Harrison/Smith or a Smith/Harrison ticket.

What about Harrison/Weaver?

And at this moment in history (which will likely remain the same in this instance), many Mormons are British or Scandinavian immigrants.

Would you happen to know why this is/was, for curiosity's sake?

[Zioneer]

Before this ends, I'd just like to repeat my support for a Harrison/Smith or a Smith/Harrison ticket.

What about Harrison/Weaver?

And at this moment in history (which will likely remain the same in this instance), many Mormons are British or Scandinavian immigrants.

Would you happen to know why this is/was, for curiosity's sake?

Sure: it's where we started preaching first (and were very successful doing so, to the point that there were hundreds of converts for every missionary), and was during the period when LDS leaders advised converts to come to Utah/America as opposed to building communities in their homelands (which is why there are such small British/Scandinavian Mormon communities now; most of the converts left for Utah).

In fact, we had several British and Scandinavian LDS leaders; George Q Cannon, George Teasdale, even prophet John Taylor on the British side, with apostles John A Widtsoe and Anthon Lund on the Scandinavian side, from a quick glance at the Wiki list. Most people in modern Utah either have English or Scandinavian names.

In fact, before the Civil War, the anti-Mormons were afraid that all the immigrants Mormons were bringing in were abolitionists and would vote to abolish slavery in Missouri and Illinois. That was one of the reasons the Mormons were attacked and hated, as the Missourians and Illinoisans were still pro-slavery. Literally, one of the recorded accusations against Joseph Smith was essentially "aaagh he'll convert the slaves and Indians and bring in British abolitionists to get rid of slavery". Of course, Smith wasn't entirely innocent of that accusation, as he did ordain Elijah Abels, a former slave, as a priest.

Also Smith was very, very cagey in dealing with slavery; he claimed that he wouldn't convert slaves without the permission of their masters, and claimed he wasn't an abolitionist, but at the same time ran for president on the platform of buying slaves from their owners and freeing them.

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

So is it Harrison vs. Cleveland? It'll be fun to see how Atlas deals with this one.