Opinion of James Joyce
       |           

Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?
March 28, 2024, 03:38:55 PM
News: Election Simulator 2.0 Released. Senate/Gubernatorial maps, proportional electoral votes, and more - Read more

  Talk Elections
  Forum Community
  Forum Community (Moderators: The Dowager Mod, YE, KoopaDaQuick 🇵🇸)
  Opinion of James Joyce
« previous next »
Pages: [1] 2
Poll
Question: ^
#1
FF
 
#2
HP
 
Show Pie Chart
Partisan results

Total Voters: 42

Author Topic: Opinion of James Joyce  (Read 1233 times)
Sol
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 8,055
Bosnia and Herzegovina


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« on: April 02, 2014, 07:23:06 AM »

Considering BRTD's recent comments.
Logged
Maxwell
mah519
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 28,459
Germany


Political Matrix
E: -6.45, S: -6.96

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2014, 07:24:43 AM »

I still have a hard time reading him, but FF.
Logged
World politics is up Schmitt creek
Nathan
Moderators
Atlas Superstar
*****
Posts: 34,249


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2014, 10:25:50 AM »

Massive FF.
Logged
Oakvale
oakvale
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 11,827
Ukraine
Political Matrix
E: -0.77, S: -4.00

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2014, 11:19:26 AM »

You mean the guy in that BRTD thread?
Logged
Snowstalker Mk. II
Snowstalker
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 20,414
Palestinian Territory, Occupied


Political Matrix
E: -7.10, S: -4.35

P P P
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2014, 11:24:14 AM »

Can't compare to the emoviolence rendition of Sneakers O'Toole.
Logged
Randy Bobandy
socialisthoosier
Jr. Member
***
Posts: 438
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2014, 11:49:49 AM »

Maximum FF.
Logged
MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!
Kalwejt
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 57,380


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #6 on: April 02, 2014, 12:50:43 PM »

Far more significant person than some guy banned from an obscure internet forum.
Logged
Хahar 🤔
Xahar
Atlas Legend
*****
Posts: 41,731
Bangladesh


Political Matrix
E: -6.77, S: 0.61

WWW Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #7 on: April 02, 2014, 01:20:24 PM »

One of the better umpires in the major leagues.
Logged
DemPGH
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 4,755
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #8 on: April 02, 2014, 04:22:31 PM »

"HP" is relative. Tongue

He's a major literary figure who's very challenging (and not all of his work is like Finnegans Wake, of course - it took him like twenty years to produce that), so in RL terms, he's a FF. But in context, HP.

I don't enjoy that era, its norms, its "high literary culture," etc. It's insufferably pretentious. That's just me. Don't care much for T.S. Eliot either.
Logged
World politics is up Schmitt creek
Nathan
Moderators
Atlas Superstar
*****
Posts: 34,249


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #9 on: April 02, 2014, 05:11:57 PM »

I don't enjoy that era, its norms, its "high literary culture," etc. It's insufferably pretentious. That's just me. Don't care much for T.S. Eliot either.

You might like later Eliot better than earlier Eliot because his work is a lot more self-aware, self-critical and less overwhelmingly riddling, but it's also heavily religious in both structure and content, so maybe not.
Logged
DemPGH
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 4,755
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #10 on: April 02, 2014, 05:33:01 PM »

I don't enjoy that era, its norms, its "high literary culture," etc. It's insufferably pretentious. That's just me. Don't care much for T.S. Eliot either.

You might like later Eliot better than earlier Eliot because his work is a lot more self-aware, self-critical and less overwhelmingly riddling, but it's also heavily religious in both structure and content, so maybe not.

I PMed you.

You know, I don't mind the metaphysical approach at all, I think it's the more didactic approach that I mind. I find John Donne to be a little overbearing, but not John Milton. I've read C.S. Lewis as well, and while I don't react negatively to it (he's an exceptional writer from a stylistic point of view, and often funny), I probably just don't relate.
Logged
World politics is up Schmitt creek
Nathan
Moderators
Atlas Superstar
*****
Posts: 34,249


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #11 on: April 02, 2014, 05:48:25 PM »
« Edited: April 02, 2014, 05:53:15 PM by asexual trans victimologist »

I don't enjoy that era, its norms, its "high literary culture," etc. It's insufferably pretentious. That's just me. Don't care much for T.S. Eliot either.

You might like later Eliot better than earlier Eliot because his work is a lot more self-aware, self-critical and less overwhelmingly riddling, but it's also heavily religious in both structure and content, so maybe not.

I PMed you.

I saw! I'll respond a little later in the evening.

Quote
You must be logged in to read this quote.

If you're interested, see how you like 'The Journey of the Magi'. It's probably the most thematically accessible to non-Christians of Eliot's religious poems; what it's about, fundamentally, is social alienation after a life-changing experience.
Logged
they don't love you like i love you
BRTD
Atlas Prophet
*****
Posts: 112,701
Ukraine


Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

P P
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #12 on: April 03, 2014, 08:17:30 AM »

HP. He was basically Ayn Rand without the sociopathy. Basically as dense and unreadable
Logged
SUSAN CRUSHBONE
a Person
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 9,735
Antarctica


WWW Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #13 on: April 03, 2014, 09:02:27 AM »

ff obviously, and

Logged
Maxwell
mah519
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 28,459
Germany


Political Matrix
E: -6.45, S: -6.96

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #14 on: April 03, 2014, 12:10:23 PM »

HP. He was basically Ayn Rand without the sociopathy. Basically as dense and unreadable

WHAT?
Logged
Oakvale
oakvale
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 11,827
Ukraine
Political Matrix
E: -0.77, S: -4.00

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #15 on: April 03, 2014, 12:22:19 PM »


Logged
they don't love you like i love you
BRTD
Atlas Prophet
*****
Posts: 112,701
Ukraine


Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

P P
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #16 on: April 03, 2014, 12:56:53 PM »

The comparison is as both are basically unreadable. Although Joyce never wrote a 70 page monologue.
Logged
The world will shine with light in our nightmare
Just Passion Through
Atlas Legend
*****
Posts: 45,174
Norway


Political Matrix
E: -6.32, S: -7.48

P P P

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #17 on: April 03, 2014, 01:02:22 PM »

Not that I want to beat a dead horse, but I'm almost tempted to create a "Finnegans Wake vs. Atlas Shrugged" poll.
Logged
Antonio the Sixth
Antonio V
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 57,963
United States


Political Matrix
E: -7.87, S: -3.83

P P
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #18 on: April 03, 2014, 02:45:47 PM »

HP. He was basically Ayn Rand without the sociopathy. Basically as dense and unreadable

I won't comment on the substance of this post, but that "Ayn Rand without the sociopathy" comment reminds me of when some conservahack on Fox News said Obama was "Stalin without the bloodshed". ROFL.
Logged
World politics is up Schmitt creek
Nathan
Moderators
Atlas Superstar
*****
Posts: 34,249


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #19 on: April 03, 2014, 03:35:27 PM »


For entirely different reasons, and in entirely different ways.

Quote
You must be logged in to read this quote.

...not in the same sense that Rand did, no.
Logged
they don't love you like i love you
BRTD
Atlas Prophet
*****
Posts: 112,701
Ukraine


Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

P P
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #20 on: April 03, 2014, 03:48:38 PM »

FWIW, I have no doubt many of the zines I read would be considered unreadable, at least the stuff published around '04-'06 when that style of writing and the politics was so big, basically imagine a Tweed post stretched out to a multi-page essay except with more coherent and logical politics (though the overall message rarely amounting to more than "rar sexism sucks!" "rar homophobia sucks!" or "End the Iraq War now!")

But basically the point is that Joyce and Rand are about as equally readable and accessible for me. Although I'll also concede Joyce probably never wrote as big of a plothole as Rand, in that if some idiot managed to hijack the radio waves and babbled for three straight hours in one of the most dull as dirt lectures ever, everyone would just turn off the radio.
Logged
World politics is up Schmitt creek
Nathan
Moderators
Atlas Superstar
*****
Posts: 34,249


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #21 on: April 03, 2014, 04:18:42 PM »

Although I'll also concede Joyce probably never wrote as big of a plothole as Rand, in that if some idiot managed to hijack the radio waves and babbled for three straight hours in one of the most dull as dirt lectures ever, everyone would just turn off the radio.

The actual events that occur in Joyce's fiction are meticulously naturalistic, so no, he didn't.
Logged
patrick1
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 7,865


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #22 on: April 03, 2014, 09:44:15 PM »

Judging Joyce solely on Finnegans Wake is like judging the Beatles by Revolution 9. Then again, I'm sure you don't care either because it doesn't fit the bogus narrative you are trying to spin.
Logged
Gustaf
Moderators
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 29,770


Political Matrix
E: 0.39, S: -0.70

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #23 on: April 04, 2014, 04:58:25 AM »

It should be noted that BRTD is judging James Joyce as someone who basically doesn't read books. So we should take that even less seriously than his other nonsense.
Logged
Filuwaúrdjan
Realpolitik
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 67,609
United Kingdom


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #24 on: April 04, 2014, 08:41:02 AM »

Pervert
Logged
Pages: [1] 2  
« previous next »
Jump to:  


Login with username, password and session length

Terms of Service - DMCA Agent and Policy - Privacy Policy and Cookies

Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines

Page created in 0.06 seconds with 15 queries.