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« on: April 04, 2014, 10:59:05 AM »

In these days, Florida is likely to have become the third most populous state of the US.
Does this demographic change affect you in any way?
Will it have an effect on campaigning and canvassing?
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« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2014, 11:09:00 AM »

Well, New York is currently irrelevant in presidential campaigns except as a source of campaign money, so I don't anticipate any huge changes.  Republicans will continue trying everything to maintain their slight edge in Florida and Democrats will try to make it lean left, although keeping CO and VA in their column are probably more important battles.
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« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2014, 11:46:07 AM »

Thanks de Blasio
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« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2014, 01:40:44 PM »

Disgusting.
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« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2014, 02:41:03 PM »

Wonderful news!
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« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2014, 02:58:05 PM »


I'm aware you're being sarcastic, of course, but just to be clear: the city has been mostly holding up its end of the bargain and growing steadily for a couple decades now- less than Florida rates, for sure, but growing nonetheless.

It's upstate that's having a hard time.
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« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2014, 06:13:02 PM »

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« Reply #7 on: April 04, 2014, 06:14:23 PM »

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« Reply #8 on: April 04, 2014, 06:16:38 PM »

Give us back our Grandmas and Puerto Ricans dammit.
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« Reply #9 on: April 04, 2014, 06:18:50 PM »

Florida has a pathetic economy for such a large state.

California has tech, entertainment, and agriculture
Texas has energy and ranching
New York has finance and a cultural center
Florida has warm weather? LOL, so do Texas and California.
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« Reply #10 on: April 04, 2014, 06:29:36 PM »
« Edited: April 04, 2014, 06:31:56 PM by TDAS04 »

And Arizona has more people than Massachusetts now.  Ugh.
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« Reply #11 on: April 04, 2014, 07:13:58 PM »

And Arizona has more people than Massachusetts now.  Ugh.

Yeah. It's a shame that the whole North has been sagging down to the South.
Imagine we would have had this population distribution during the Civil War...
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« Reply #12 on: April 04, 2014, 07:37:36 PM »

And Arizona has more people than Massachusetts now.  Ugh.

Yeah. It's a shame that the whole North has been sagging down to the South.
Imagine we would have had this population distribution during the Civil War...

Actually, I have to correct myself;  It's not quite there yet. According to the 2012 census estimate, AZ has 6.553 million and MA has 6.646 million.  It's closer than it should be, though. 
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« Reply #13 on: April 04, 2014, 09:41:05 PM »

Honestly, who cares.

But Florida and New York and both terrible states anyway. 
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« Reply #14 on: April 04, 2014, 11:14:49 PM »

Why? Most of the new arrivals are Democrats and, as I have vociferously stated before, Florida has more than enough people as is, we don't want any more people who don't belong.
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« Reply #15 on: April 04, 2014, 11:49:01 PM »

Why? Most of the new arrivals are Democrats and, as I have vociferously stated before, Florida has more than enough people as is, who don't want any more people who don't belong.

I don't care about their political affiliation, this is about an issue that transcends politics. This is about the states with good, warm weather vs. the horrible states that have snow.
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« Reply #16 on: April 05, 2014, 12:47:05 AM »

Ridiculous and improper. New York is probably underpopulated in the area of 8-10 million people.
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« Reply #17 on: April 05, 2014, 12:49:47 AM »

Ridiculous and improper. New York is probably underpopulated in the area of 8-10 million people.

New York had been the most powerful state for decades and decades, it only a matter of time that it would decline.
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« Reply #18 on: April 05, 2014, 12:56:10 AM »

Also, NC has now more people than Michigan ... (it passed MI a few months ago)
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« Reply #19 on: April 05, 2014, 06:41:33 AM »

I don’t see it as a problem. It is of course an interesting development. The third largest state is a swing state. That is sort of fitting, since the largest state is solidly Democratic, and the second largest state is a GOP stronghold.

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« Reply #20 on: April 05, 2014, 10:56:04 AM »

I recall reading once that Buffalo was the eight largest city in the US at one point.  

As Ernest pointed out in the other thread, it was more about commercial bottlenecks that New York City and by extention New York State became the largest. The state has been described as an L with New York City on one end and Buffalo at the other. I would guess 90% of the population of the state lives along that L, which contains throughout history the Mohawk Trail, The Erie Canal and the New York Central's water level route, over which most of the Great Lakes and even Midwestern Commerce was redirected towards New York City as the primary port outlet, which was previously New Orleans.

New York's Port facility is small and dated in comparison to others and of course you have the St. Lawrence Seaway siphoning off the Great Lakes and finally, the decline of the rust belt all taking a bite out of New York's pie.
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« Reply #21 on: April 05, 2014, 11:28:06 PM »

And Arizona has more people than Massachusetts now.  Ugh.

Yeah. It's a shame that the whole North has been sagging down to the South.
Imagine we would have had this population distribution during the Civil War...

You'd have a lot of unemployed or underemployed white people since there were no factories or large businesses in the South for them to work at and farm labor was fulfilled by black slaves.
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« Reply #22 on: April 06, 2014, 12:01:02 AM »

Between 7/1/12 and 7/1/13 UT passed KS and NE passed WV. AZ passed IN and GA passed MI in the prior year.
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« Reply #23 on: April 06, 2014, 01:01:37 AM »

I don’t see it as a problem. It is of course an interesting development. The third largest state is a swing state. That is sort of fitting, since the largest state is solidly Democratic, and the second largest state is a GOP stronghold.

I didn't see it that way. lol
As a result you could argue that the electoral map has become more aesthetic.
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« Reply #24 on: April 06, 2014, 01:20:12 AM »

There's also a legitimate chance that ND will overtake AK in the next few months (unless ND growth slows and AK growth picks up).
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