MW: Midwest Immigration and Integration Act (Passed)

[Arturo Belano]

Yes, it seems completely reasonable.

Is Governor windjammer friendly or hostile to Sol's amendment?

[windjammer]

Amendment is friendly!

[Arturo Belano]

I hereby call a 24-hour vote on Sol's amendment.

[LeBron]

Aye!

[Senator Cris]

Aye

[Arturo Belano]

Sol's amendment passes!

[Arturo Belano]

Is there any further discussion or is the Althing prepared for a vote?

[Simfan34]

I have some problems with this legislation.

The provision abolishing "All Midwest laws concerning Immigration" is vague and could have unexpected consequences.. It would be helpful to enumerate them.

Pt. 1, § 3, cl. 1 is confusing, as it states "Not being an American citizen shall not constitute grounds for termination of employment," as it might seem to apply to all citizens of the nations of the Americas, as it is the only thing I might imagine could be meant by "American citizen". Furthermore, there are many jobs- the government comes to mind- in which citizenship is a necessity.

Pt. 2, § 1, cl. 1 is also unhelpful as it suggests the region has no plan to deport illegal immigrants, and furthermore, would accept unanonymous reports. Cl. 3 fails to define what is "close" to an educational institution. Pt. 2, § 2, cl. 1 is in contravention to Atlasian statute- it is the responsibility of the federal government to grant amnesty. Likewise, cl. 2 is also unconstitutional- Social Security is a federal programme.

I would like to say I find Pt. 3, § 1 noxious and misguided on a personal level, but that is my own opinion. However, quotas such as established as Pt. 3, § 2, cl. 1 are blatantly unconstitutional as was ruled in Regents of the University of California v. Bakke.

I hope you find my comments helpful.

Simfan34,
Attorney General

[windjammer]

Thank you Simfan34 (congratulations for your new office!)

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I fail to understand the problem. I mean, if citizenship is required, how could a non american citizen get the job, and so how could he be fired if he hasn't this job?

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I fail to understand why you speak about amnesty. Illegal immigration isn't a crime? Is it? They're not criminal. I don't understand the concept of amnesty.
For social security, thanks. I will change this term by hospital or something like that!

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Blantantly unconstitunal? How? The Atlasia Supreme Court isn't the court of vile rightwing like the US Supreme Court you know! And the Atlasia constitution and the US constitution are probably different.


Thanks for your help though Simfan, you will always be welcome in the Althing.
Governor Windjammer

[Simfan34]

Thank you Simfan34 (congratulations for your new office!)

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I fail to understand the problem. I mean, if citizenship is required, how could a non american citizen get the job, and so how could he be fired if he hasn't this job?

What is this "America" you speak of? Surely you mean Atlasia.

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I fail to understand why you speak about amnesty. Illegal immigration isn't a crime? Is it? They're not criminal. I don't understand the concept of amnesty.
For social security, thanks. I will change this term by hospital or something like that!

Illegal immigration is a crime... hence why it is illegal.

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Blantantly unconstitunal? How? The Atlasia Supreme Court isn't the court of vile rightwing like the US Supreme Court you know! And the Atlasia constitution and the US constitution are probably different.

Thanks for your help though Simfan, you will always be welcome in the Althing.
Governor Windjammer

The Regents v. Bakke case had all the judges of the court agree that the erection of racial quotas was illegal, if not constitutional. United States legal precedent applies to Atlasia before 2004, and the unconstitutionality of racial quotas was upheld in Grutter v. Bollinger (the respondent being the incumbent president of my alma mater, I would know this). Mr. Governor, it would be in clear contravention to the constitution to establish a racial quota.

[Simfan34]

Furthermore, I neglected to mention that the relevant clause, the Equal Protection Clause, is present, word-for-word, in both the Fourteenth Amendment of the United States Constitution and Art. 1, § 3 of the Third Constitution of the Republic of Atlasia.

[windjammer]

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Obviously .

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Well , I'm deeply sorry. Crime doesn't seem to have the same signification in France than in the USA .
But, I fail to see how this is unconstitutional. I mean, "they shall not be arrested anymore", this isn't technically "the federal government shall grant amnesty", isn't it?

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Of F*** (sorry).
Well thank you Simfan, I will delete it!

[windjammer]

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[Arturo Belano]

The Althing has 24 hours to vote on Governor windjammer's amendment.

[LeBron]

Aye

[Senator Cris]

Aye

[Sol]

Aye.

[Arturo Belano]

Governor windjammer's amendment passes!

[windjammer]

Has someone an idea for the new Part II section 2 1)?

[windjammer]

Has someone an idea for the new Part II section 2 1)?

[Senator Cris]

Now?

[windjammer]

Now?

Yes!

[Senator Cris]

I wanted say... now what do we do?
If we don't find a new idea for the Part II section 2 1) ?

[windjammer]

I wanted say... now what do we do?
If we don't find a new idea for the Part II section 2 1) ?

Well,
I guess you have seen it, but my bill had exactly:
3 Parts
3 Sections per Part
3 Articles per Section
And with Preamble and Conclusion having 3 articles too.
This isn't hasardous. I mean, this is by far the longest bill I have ever written, and if this bill passes, I will consider that as my greatest accomplishment.
And to be honest, I'm a bit "superstitious". And the number "3" is the divinity number, so I have the feeling that God is behind me when I have 3 parts, 3 Sections per Part, 3 Articles per Section. So yes, if someone has an idea, it would be great, I would love to still have thatù

[windjammer]

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