raw milk

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

One of the roles of government is to make sure that the health of the public is in good hands, and raw milk can lead to many illnesses that are very preventable.

It should be illegal to drink at home, from your own cow?

It should be illegal for the use/sale of raw milk.

Very funny some of you are voting yes who have also said that parents who don't give their children vaccines is child abuse. The diseases caused by raw milk can be prevented if we don't allow it here.

False equivalence is false. Not vaccinating your child endangers others. Drinking raw milk only endangers yourself.

So I guess let's let people die because it doesn't affect anyone else.

What I find more hypocritical is that you’re willing to ban raw milk, yet support marijuana legalization.

Raw milk can lead to disease, marijuana doesn't. Raw milk can lead to death, marijuana doesn't. Marijuana just gives you the munchies.

Marijuana can lead to accidents, much like drinking can. Raw milk does not cause contagious diseases,  and is not a threat to others. I really find it hilarious that you seriously support legalizing something you enjoy but don't want to extend the same rights to individual farmers because you apparently know what is better for them.

Is that a fact?

Since when did salmonella become contagious, Dr. Frodo?

Since when was tuberculosis wasn't, Dr. Sanchez? 

Unless you have had tuberculosis for a long time, it is hard to catch from one person to another. TB still exists, but mass outbreaks don't occur often, and it hardly seems like a justifiable reason to tell a farmer what he is allowed to do with his cow.

"Although tuberculosis is contagious, it's not easy to catch. You're much more likely to get tuberculosis from someone you live with or work with than from a stranger. Most people with active TB who've had appropriate drug treatment for at least two weeks are no longer contagious."

[Frodo]

One of the roles of government is to make sure that the health of the public is in good hands, and raw milk can lead to many illnesses that are very preventable.

It should be illegal to drink at home, from your own cow?

It should be illegal for the use/sale of raw milk.

Very funny some of you are voting yes who have also said that parents who don't give their children vaccines is child abuse. The diseases caused by raw milk can be prevented if we don't allow it here.

False equivalence is false. Not vaccinating your child endangers others. Drinking raw milk only endangers yourself.

So I guess let's let people die because it doesn't affect anyone else.

What I find more hypocritical is that you’re willing to ban raw milk, yet support marijuana legalization.

Raw milk can lead to disease, marijuana doesn't. Raw milk can lead to death, marijuana doesn't. Marijuana just gives you the munchies.

Marijuana can lead to accidents, much like drinking can. Raw milk does not cause contagious diseases,  and is not a threat to others. I really find it hilarious that you seriously support legalizing something you enjoy but don't want to extend the same rights to individual farmers because you apparently know what is better for them.

Is that a fact?

Since when did salmonella become contagious, Dr. Frodo?

Since when was tuberculosis wasn't, Dr. Sanchez? 

Unless you have had tuberculosis for a long time, it is hard to catch from one person to another. TB still exists, but mass outbreaks don't occur often, and it hardly seems like a justifiable reason to tell a farmer what he is allowed to do with his cow.

"Although tuberculosis is contagious, it's not easy to catch. You're much more likely to get tuberculosis from someone you live with or work with than from a stranger. Most people with active TB who've had appropriate drug treatment for at least two weeks are no longer contagious."

It is not a justifiable reason to put yourself (and your family) at risk from consuming bacteria that causes it.  There is a reason why milk was pasteurized in the first place. 

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

One of the roles of government is to make sure that the health of the public is in good hands, and raw milk can lead to many illnesses that are very preventable.

It should be illegal to drink at home, from your own cow?

It should be illegal for the use/sale of raw milk.

Very funny some of you are voting yes who have also said that parents who don't give their children vaccines is child abuse. The diseases caused by raw milk can be prevented if we don't allow it here.

False equivalence is false. Not vaccinating your child endangers others. Drinking raw milk only endangers yourself.

So I guess let's let people die because it doesn't affect anyone else.

What I find more hypocritical is that you’re willing to ban raw milk, yet support marijuana legalization.

Raw milk can lead to disease, marijuana doesn't. Raw milk can lead to death, marijuana doesn't. Marijuana just gives you the munchies.

Marijuana can lead to accidents, much like drinking can. Raw milk does not cause contagious diseases,  and is not a threat to others. I really find it hilarious that you seriously support legalizing something you enjoy but don't want to extend the same rights to individual farmers because you apparently know what is better for them.

Is that a fact?

Since when did salmonella become contagious, Dr. Frodo?

Since when was tuberculosis wasn't, Dr. Sanchez? 

Unless you have had tuberculosis for a long time, it is hard to catch from one person to another. TB still exists, but mass outbreaks don't occur often, and it hardly seems like a justifiable reason to tell a farmer what he is allowed to do with his cow.

"Although tuberculosis is contagious, it's not easy to catch. You're much more likely to get tuberculosis from someone you live with or work with than from a stranger. Most people with active TB who've had appropriate drug treatment for at least two weeks are no longer contagious."

It is not a justifiable reason to put yourself (and your family) at risk from consuming bacteria that causes it.  There is a reason why milk was pasteurized in the first place. 

An individual has the right to put himself at risk without you sticking your nose into it. A family can make that decision as a unit, and suffer the consequences, if there are any. If the CDC and Mayo clinic have taught me anything tonight, its that the risk of being seriously harmed by raw milk are the same as being seriously hurt in a car.

Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't drink raw milk. But I'm not going to tell others that they can't do it, just as I don't tell others that they shouldn't smoke marijuana, something I abstain from.

[tik 🪀✨]

It's very tempting to just say "Yes" and call it a day - allowing people to do something potentially harmful but somewhat understandable gives me a freedom-stiffy. But.. should you be able to sell it? I don't think so, not without some kind of regulatory standards being met (I'm not sure what kinds of dairy regulations are already in place seeing as how I don't care). And if they can't sell it, can they give it to others freely? Can they give it to their children? I want to say no. Children get what they're given and so don't often get to make informed conscientious decisions. I don't think it's a good thing to do.

And, yet, I want to say yes! You have a cow, drink the raw milk if you want! Drink the blood! Who cares? Just.. don't sell it, don't give it to children, and don't hold a glass of it in front of your cow and taunt her. That's rude.

[Mordecai]

And to answer the poll, absolutely not.  There are no benefits to raw milk that you cannot get from your regular pasteurized milk, and instead you get all the downsides that pasteurization was intended to prevent.  

I will gladly take the CDC's word over some internet know-it-all. 

Yeah I don't really get the idea behind drinking unpasteurized milk. Is it the taste? Is it the cost? Is it like trans-fats where people just want to flip-off the gubmint bureaucracy?

[RosettaStoned]

Not recommended, but yes.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

And to answer the poll, absolutely not.  There are no benefits to raw milk that you cannot get from your regular pasteurized milk, and instead you get all the downsides that pasteurization was intended to prevent.  

I will gladly take the CDC's word over some internet know-it-all. 

Yeah I don't really get the idea behind drinking unpasteurized milk. Is it the taste? Is it the cost? Is it like trans-fats where people just want to flip-off the gubmint bureaucracy?

Yes, but not entirely. No, where raw milk is available it is more expensive than pasteurized milk. Somewhat, as flipping off the gubmint is part of the appeal for some.

Beyond the question of taste, which may be simply due to what consumers of raw milk (and raw milk cheeses) are accustomed to rather than any inherent superiority over pasteurized milk, proponents of raw milk argue that those who drink raw milk are less likely to develop allergies and other immune system reactions than those who drink pasteurized milk.  There probably is some truth to that, but whether it's sufficient reason to allow the known risks of raw milk depends on how much risk one is prepared to have the government allow people to take.

[Frodo]

One of the roles of government is to make sure that the health of the public is in good hands, and raw milk can lead to many illnesses that are very preventable.

It should be illegal to drink at home, from your own cow?

It should be illegal for the use/sale of raw milk.

Very funny some of you are voting yes who have also said that parents who don't give their children vaccines is child abuse. The diseases caused by raw milk can be prevented if we don't allow it here.

False equivalence is false. Not vaccinating your child endangers others. Drinking raw milk only endangers yourself.

So I guess let's let people die because it doesn't affect anyone else.

What I find more hypocritical is that you’re willing to ban raw milk, yet support marijuana legalization.

Raw milk can lead to disease, marijuana doesn't. Raw milk can lead to death, marijuana doesn't. Marijuana just gives you the munchies.

Marijuana can lead to accidents, much like drinking can. Raw milk does not cause contagious diseases,  and is not a threat to others. I really find it hilarious that you seriously support legalizing something you enjoy but don't want to extend the same rights to individual farmers because you apparently know what is better for them.

Is that a fact?

Since when did salmonella become contagious, Dr. Frodo?

Since when was tuberculosis wasn't, Dr. Sanchez?  

Unless you have had tuberculosis for a long time, it is hard to catch from one person to another. TB still exists, but mass outbreaks don't occur often, and it hardly seems like a justifiable reason to tell a farmer what he is allowed to do with his cow.

"Although tuberculosis is contagious, it's not easy to catch. You're much more likely to get tuberculosis from someone you live with or work with than from a stranger. Most people with active TB who've had appropriate drug treatment for at least two weeks are no longer contagious."

It is not a justifiable reason to put yourself (and your family) at risk from consuming bacteria that causes it.  There is a reason why milk was pasteurized in the first place.  

An individual has the right to put himself at risk without you sticking your nose into it. A family can make that decision as a unit, and suffer the consequences, if there are any. If the CDC and Mayo clinic have taught me anything tonight, its that the risk of being seriously harmed by raw milk are the same as being seriously hurt in a car.

Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't drink raw milk. But I'm not going to tell others that they can't do it, just as I don't tell others that they shouldn't smoke marijuana, something I abstain from.

Not if that means the rest of us have to be saddled with the cost of higher insurance premiums to pay for your stupidity (not you personally).  Not to mention the potential of contagious diseases to flare into pandemics (including drug-resistant TB mentioned in your link).  

It isn't worth the risk to the general public.  Raw milk should be made illegal.  

 

 

[Wake Me Up When The Hard Border Ends]

Yes, as long as the milk is clearly labelled as raw.

[Randy Bobandy]

Yes (G), as long as it's sold as raw product and not processed, "purified" product.

[Simfan34]

Raw milk is racist.