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« on: April 05, 2014, 02:06:55 PM »

Who was worse, Lyndon Johnson or Jimmy Carter?
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« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2014, 02:07:13 PM »

Johnson
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« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2014, 02:08:32 PM »

Carter was the worse President per se, but Johnson probably did more damage overall.
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« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2014, 02:11:36 PM »

Carter was a better person, LBJ was a much better president.

Voted Carter.
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« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2014, 02:12:30 PM »

Johnson; Carter was a good man who was in the wrong place at a wrong time.
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« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2014, 02:53:44 PM »

Johnson had a higher death toll.
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« Reply #6 on: April 05, 2014, 03:30:15 PM »

Country-bumpkin peanut farmer with decent intentions vs. Machiavellian racist liberal technocrat

Tough call
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« Reply #7 on: April 05, 2014, 04:27:50 PM »

Carter was a better person, LBJ was a much better president.

Voted Carter.
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« Reply #8 on: April 05, 2014, 04:28:26 PM »

Carter because I like black people.
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« Reply #9 on: April 05, 2014, 05:09:10 PM »


Jimmy Carter also liked black people and, most likely, would've signed the same bill, so try again you walnut.
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« Reply #10 on: April 05, 2014, 05:10:06 PM »

Carter didn't set this nation on a path to economic self destruction, so....
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« Reply #11 on: April 05, 2014, 05:21:51 PM »


Jimmy Carter also liked black people and, most likely, would've signed the same bill, so try again you walnut.
Yes, but Carter was a nobody at that point.
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« Reply #12 on: April 05, 2014, 05:31:22 PM »

Country-bumpkin peanut farmer with decent intentions vs. Machiavellian racist liberal technocrat

Tough call

I have never, ever heard Johnson called a 'liberal technocrat' before.
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« Reply #13 on: April 05, 2014, 05:44:47 PM »

Carter didn't set this nation on a path to economic self destruction, so....
Neither does Johnson.
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« Reply #14 on: April 05, 2014, 05:48:30 PM »

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« Reply #15 on: April 05, 2014, 05:55:28 PM »

Carter didn't set this nation on a path to economic self destruction, so....
Neither does Johnson.

It was the short-sighted economic policies of Lyndon Johnson and Richard Nixon that created the horrible environment known as the 1970's.
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« Reply #16 on: April 05, 2014, 07:35:09 PM »

Johnson had the ability to actually enact some form of agenda, whether you consider that good or bad is another thing. Carter couldn't handle Congress.
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« Reply #17 on: April 05, 2014, 07:49:44 PM »

I have never, ever heard Johnson called a 'liberal technocrat' before.

Feel free to create any pejorative you like. He was the Machiavellian machine politician, who wanted to use New Deal politics, during a time of relative prosperity, to buy constituents with federal handouts. Nixon thought it was corrupt, contemptible, and utterly brilliant so he tried to steal it for Keynesian Republicans.

We've never recovered. Divisive political rancor and fiscal malfeasance ever since.
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« Reply #18 on: April 05, 2014, 09:41:12 PM »

 Johnson by far.
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« Reply #19 on: April 05, 2014, 09:44:46 PM »

The warmongering sociopath.
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« Reply #20 on: April 05, 2014, 10:38:18 PM »

Carter was a better person, LBJ was a much better president.

Voted Carter. Johnson...

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« Reply #21 on: April 05, 2014, 10:51:41 PM »

I have never, ever heard Johnson called a 'liberal technocrat' before.

Feel free to create any pejorative you like. He was the Machiavellian machine politician, who wanted to use New Deal politics, during a time of relative prosperity, to buy constituents with federal handouts.

Even if that were true--I happen to interpret Johnson as having cared about poor whites and to an extent poor Hispanics much more genuinely than about pretty much any other group to which he pandered, for what that's worth in the context of the War on Poverty--that's not what 'liberal technocrat' means.
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« Reply #22 on: April 05, 2014, 11:34:07 PM »
« Edited: April 05, 2014, 11:36:05 PM by AggregateDemand »

Even if that were true--I happen to interpret Johnson as having cared about poor whites and to an extent poor Hispanics much more genuinely than about pretty much any other group to which he pandered, for what that's worth in the context of the War on Poverty--that's not what 'liberal technocrat' means.

I called him a technocrat because because of the new bureaucracies he created, but who am I kidding? We don't put scientists in charge of medicine, welfare sociology, or ag production. Those jobs are reserved for political hacks who are owed a favor.

LBJ sent uneducated poor people to 'Nam, and told his generals to fight according to presidential approval polls. If that's affection, I don't want to think about his wrath. He blocked Civil Rights when Ike was in office, too. I have a hard time believing that LBJ took America's downtrodden classes seriously.
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« Reply #23 on: April 05, 2014, 11:40:06 PM »
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Even if that were true--I happen to interpret Johnson as having cared about poor whites and to an extent poor Hispanics much more genuinely than about pretty much any other group to which he pandered, for what that's worth in the context of the War on Poverty--that's not what 'liberal technocrat' means.

I called him a technocrat because because of the new bureaucracies he created, but who am I kidding? We don't put scientists in charge of medicine, welfare sociology, or ag production. Those jobs are reserved for political hacks who are owed a favor.

And judging by the usually profoundly mediocre results when 'experts' are put in charge of those things, thank God for that.

LBJ caring about people was always to a greater or lesser extent conditional and influenced by real or perceived expedience, of course.
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« Reply #24 on: April 06, 2014, 05:52:04 AM »

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