Who was worse, Lyndon Johnson or Jimmy Carter?

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

Carter was definitively better human being, but less effective politician.

[Mordecai]

I voted Johnson (I/O).

[politicallefty]

It depends on what we're talking about. In terms of the better person, Carter is clearly better. However, LBJ was a far better President. In terms of their presidencies, I wouldn't mind seeing LBJ's domestic policy combined with Carter's foreign policy. Vietnam's the obvious mark against LBJ. With Carter, I've always found his domestic policy accomplishments to have been severely lacking, especially considering the huge majorities Democrats had in both Houses during his Presidency (including a supermajority in the House during his first two years).

[MATTROSE94]

Carter was a better person, LBJ was a much better president.

Voted Carter.

[Mordecai]

It depends on what we're talking about. In terms of the better person, Carter is clearly better. However, LBJ was a far better President. In terms of their presidencies, I wouldn't mind seeing LBJ's domestic policy combined with Carter's foreign policy. Vietnam's the obvious mark against LBJ. With Carter, I've always found his domestic policy accomplishments to have been severely lacking, especially considering the huge majorities Democrats had in both Houses during his Presidency (including a supermajority in the House during his first two years).

That's because he was a Southern conservative Democrat (a nice one though, with good intentions) and he wanted deregulation and more people working, which did not go down well with the Democratic left like Ted Kennedy. He had some good achievements (as a result of deregulation rather than creation of programs), that are now so normalized that it's hard to remember he was the one who got them going. He certainly doesn't deserve the ultra-liberal image painted by conservatives, except maybe for creating the Department of Education, trying to broker peace treaties, and making human rights a plank of U.S. foreign policy, especially after the realpolitik of the '60s and early '70s.

In a way, Carter is like the anti-LBJ.

[Oldiesfreak1854]

As a person, Johnson.  As a president, Carter.

[TNF]

Obviously not the butcher of American and Vietnamese youth.

[I Will Not Be Wrong]

Jimmy Carter was one of the best presidents, so Johnson.

[Gass3268]

False question as they both were FF, but I went with Carter. Johnson is a top-10 President, while Carter is only in the top-20.

[Oswald Acted Alone, You Kook]

Carter because I like black people.

Jimmy Carter also liked black people and, most likely, would've signed the same bill, so try again you walnut.

But Johnson did far more for black people than Carter.

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

Carter because I like black people.

Jimmy Carter also liked black people and, most likely, would've signed the same bill, so try again you walnut.

But Johnson did far more for black people than Carter.

Anyone else find this discussion strange? Maybe it's just the use of the term "black people" as opposed to "African-American community" or something like that, but it's weird.

[Simfan34]

Carter was a better person, LBJ was a much better president.

Voted Carter.

This seems accurate.

[Oldiesfreak1854]

Carter was a better person, LBJ was a much better president.

Voted Carter.

This seems accurate.

Sure does, but only because Carter's presidency was such a nightmare.

[Randy Bobandy]

The one who murdered Vietnamese children.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

The one who murdered Vietnamese children.

BUH, BUH, BUH CIVIL RIGHTS AND MUH MEDICARE!

[Repub242]

Jimmy Carter

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

The one who murdered Vietnamese children.

BUH, BUH, BUH CIVIL RIGHTS AND MUH MEDICARE!

The "muh x" argument only goes so far, Sanchez.

[Antonio the Sixth]

The one who murdered Vietnamese children.

BUH, BUH, BUH CIVIL RIGHTS AND MUH MEDICARE!

Yeah, who cares about giving black people the right to vote and not letting old people die?

[windjammer]

False question as they both were FF, but I went with Carter. Johnson is a top-10 President, while Carter is only in the top-20.

[Marnetmar]

handouts

Oh boy, this word again.

[Oswald Acted Alone, You Kook]

The one who murdered Vietnamese children.

BUH, BUH, BUH CIVIL RIGHTS AND MUH MEDICARE!

Yeah, who cares about giving black people the right to vote and not letting old people die?

Blacks could vote long before The Blowjob came into office.