Mozilla CEO forced out because of Prop 8 Donation

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It feels like now that gay marriage in the courts is pretty much assured in the next few years, some folks are looking for new things to do on the gay rights front, so the slacktivists among them come up with stuff like this since forcing someone from the cool kids table doesn't require much real thought and effort.

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It feels like now that gay marriage in the courts is pretty much assured in the next few years, some folks are looking for new things to do on the gay rights front, so the slacktivists among them come up with stuff like this since forcing someone from the cool kids table doesn't require much real thought and effort.

I know, that damn free market, always screwing things up for the Republicans.

I don't know what that has to do with what I said, but two more notes and you'd have a chord.

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I understand that those who tried to pressure him out of the job justify it by saying that this is more than just a run of the mill political issue, it's about basic equality.  But OTOH, there are plenty of other political issues that are literally about life and death.  Why not investigate every CEO's political statements and political donations on abortion, capital punishment, drone warfare, the US intervention in Libya, etc., and then organize boycotts of the companies whose CEO has the incorrect position on one or more of those issues?

To me, the differences comes down to creating a tolerant work environment.  If the boss has some position that a group of employees do not deserve equal rights, it's just problematic.  If someone says women shouldn't be able to vote or black people shouldn't be able to serve on a jury, can they really effectively manage an organization including women and black folk?  As any kind of organization, you need some type of norms of respect for each individual.  There at some level is going to be a clash between a tolerant environment of gay people and tolerance of homophobic and intolerance.  Unlike political issues, these types of civil rights issues are always going to matter in the workplace.

The question to me is whether opposing SSM is so heinous and disruptive to a good workplace environment that this was merited.  I would say no.

"Oh come on you gays, of course I'm a supporter of gay rights and all, but it's not THAT big of a deal you can't get married and can get fired for being gay! Just sit down, shut up, and wait for the level of support to become ~80-90% so we milquetoast straight people can finally hand you your civil rights."

Was there a single instance at all of Eich in all his years helping to build the company ever displaying personal intolerance or animosity toward any gay employees of the company?   

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Go team gay rights.

Am I wrong that this was almost entirely an issue driven by people internal to Mozilla, and not the "gay rights" bogeyman? The only external issue I saw was OKCupid's protest page. After that, I've read a lot about Mozilla's culture of openness, social activism, etc. and how Eich was a bad fit and not popular even before the Prop 8 issue arose.

You are right, but some people don't care if they can blame something negative on the gays.

Was a loyal Mozilla user for years but changed to Chrome when Eich became CEO. Mozilla's board of directors had every right deciding that they didn't want someone with views like his to be the face of their corporation.

Also, a note on Andrew Sullivan. He's a worm, a real Uncle Tom of the gay community. Pay no attention to what he says unless you want to hear a gay man lecture his own community on how to appease the straight man.

True, he has done a lot to appease the straight man. If it weren't for Andrew Sullivan and people like him, gay marriage would be more of a fringe left wing position and not nearly so much supported among gays either.

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Go team gay rights.

Am I wrong that this was almost entirely an issue driven by people internal to Mozilla, and not the "gay rights" bogeyman? The only external issue I saw was OKCupid's protest page. After that, I've read a lot about Mozilla's culture of openness, social activism, etc. and how Eich was a bad fit and not popular even before the Prop 8 issue arose.

You are right, but some people don't care if they can blame something negative on the gays.

Was a loyal Mozilla user for years but changed to Chrome when Eich became CEO. Mozilla's board of directors had every right deciding that they didn't want someone with views like his to be the face of their corporation.

Also, a note on Andrew Sullivan. He's a worm, a real Uncle Tom of the gay community. Pay no attention to what he says unless you want to hear a gay man lecture his own community on how to appease the straight man.

True, he has done a lot to appease the straight man. If it weren't for Andrew Sullivan and people like him, gay marriage would be more of a fringe left wing position and not nearly so much supported among gays either.

Can you back that claim up?

What other prominent anglophone writer was arguing for gay marriage in the late 1980s?   Andrew Sullivan brought it into the mainstream, and his support for marriage was attacked then with the same language you are using against him now.