Ann Coulter supports Romney in 2016, calls Perry and Cruz RINOs

[IceSpear]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcbJ1isMSJY

Very interesting audio clip. And the YouTube description of the video is even more interesting:

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Are many Republican voters/pundits starting to become single issue immigration voters? I guess that would be expected considering the demographic death spiral of the GOP.

[Mordecai]

Ann Coulter says a lot of crazy and provocative stuff for attention, but she has a point with this one. Mitt Romney was the most respectable Republican candidate in 2012, the Republicans have a really shallow pool of candidates for 2016, and their position on immigration is untenable. She's certainly ahead of the curve in figuring that out.

[King]

2016 is going to be fun.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Ann Coulter says a lot of crazy and provocative stuff for attention, but she has a point with this one. Mitt Romney was the most respectable Republican candidate in 2012, the Republicans have a really shallow pool of candidates for 2016, and their position on immigration is untenable. She's certainly ahead of the curve in figuring that out.

You do realize that Ann Coulter is against amnesty and even further legal immigration unless she has done a complete flip flop in just a few months? Your post in Outofthe box's thread about Bush's comments make me wonder how you would think Coulter ahead of the curve on the issue.

That said, Coulter has been correct on various points regarding what the Republicans should be doing, condemned purity tests, Akin's nomination, etc etc.

[Cobbler]

Ann Coulter supported Romney over the RINO McCain, then Christie over the RINO Romney, said Christie was dead to her after the Jeff Chiesa appointment, and now she's back to supporting Romney over RINO Cruz.

That's principle right there.

[Randy Bobandy]

If Ted Cruz is a RINO

what kind of world are we even living in

[BaconBacon96]

Ted Cruz is a RINO and I'm a can of pea soup.

[RogueBeaver]

Coulter trolling is still news?

[Pessimistic Antineutrino]

If Ted Cruz is a RINO

what kind of world are we even living in

RINO =/= more moderate, at least in my opinion. I could see how some old Rockefeller Republicans (those that still exist) could see people like Cruz as RINOs, deviating from the original Republican beliefs.

[IceSpear]

If Ted Cruz is a RINO

what kind of world are we even living in

RINO =/= more moderate, at least in my opinion. I could see how some old Rockefeller Republicans (those that still exist) could see people like Cruz as RINOs, deviating from the original Republican beliefs.

Not in Coulter's case though. She thinks Cruz is a RINO because he's not tough enough on immigration.

[5280]

If Cruz is a RINO, then Coulter is a troll.  She's only trying to stir up controversy so she can sell more books.

[I Will Not Be Wrong]

If Ted Cruz is a RINO

what kind of world are we even living in

RINO =/= more moderate, at least in my opinion. I could see how some old Rockefeller Republicans (those that still exist) could see people like Cruz as RINOs, deviating from the original Republican beliefs.

Not in Coulter's case though. She thinks Cruz is a RINO because he's not tough enough on immigration.

Cruz? Not tough on immigration? What a (mod edit)

[Rockefeller GOP]

If Ted Cruz is a RINO

what kind of world are we even living in

RINO =/= more moderate, at least in my opinion. I could see how some old Rockefeller Republicans (those that still exist) could see people like Cruz as RINOs, deviating from the original Republican beliefs.

We still exist!

[Suburbia]

If Cruz is a RINO, then Coulter is a troll.  She's only trying to stir up controversy so she can sell more books.

You are right. Coulter is crazy. How in the world is Ted Cruz a RINO? He's one of the most conservative U.S. senators this country has seen.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

Interestingly, the whole "Romney 2016" is not just Crazy Ann's talk.

[Likely Voter]

Ironically if he had to do it all over again I doubt Romney would stick to the "self-deportation" position Anne loves so much.

But since he isn't going to run, which 2016er will most appeal to the Coulter-like single-issue anti-immigration voters?  I had assumed Cruz was pure on this but apparently not, so if not him then who?

[I Will Not Be Wrong]

Ironically if he had to do it all over again I doubt Romney would stick to the "self-deportation" position Anne loves so much.

But since he isn't going to run, which 2016er will most appeal to the Coulter-like single-issue anti-immigration voters?  I had assumed Cruz was pure on this but apparently not, so if not him then who?

It seems more and more likely none, as even Rand Paul,  Paul Ryan and Scott Walker changed last year, the Republican candidates have learned their lesson from 2012.
Gay marriage now should be a huge issue for them in 2016.

[Middle-aged Europe]

Ann Coulter is a RINO.

[nuclearneo577]

I'm now fully convinced that Coulter is a legitimate troll. I mean seriously, at least when people call   McCain a RINO it would have made sense 10 years ago.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Ironically if he had to do it all over again I doubt Romney would stick to the "self-deportation" position Anne loves so much.

But since he isn't going to run, which 2016er will most appeal to the Coulter-like single-issue anti-immigration voters?  I had assumed Cruz was pure on this but apparently not, so if not him then who?

It seems more and more likely none, as even Rand Paul,  Paul Ryan and Scott Walker changed last year, the Republican candidates have learned their lesson from 2012.
Gay marriage now should be a huge issue for them in 2016.

Paul Ryan never changed his views. The whole notion that he had was a fiction of the media in the aftermath of the selection as VP to claim his vote for a border fence made him hard right on the issue when open borders advocates have a history of using the border fence as a cover for their support for a path to legalization/citizenship, which Ryan has also consistently supported all along. He is a Jack Kemp protege afterall. Remember when Bush signed the secure fence act and put the national guard on the border as a prelude to the 2006 and 2007 attempts at comprehensive reform?

Marco Rubio changed his views from 2009 until 2012 when he pretended to hold Romney's positions save for including criticism of the AZ law, whic was something he never had to vote on obviously. He was always a Jeb Bush protege though and was more thne likely to return to form at some point especially after the 2012 elections were spun as they were. 

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

If Ted Cruz is a RINO

what kind of world are we even living in

RINO =/= more moderate, at least in my opinion. I could see how some old Rockefeller Republicans (those that still exist) could see people like Cruz as RINOs, deviating from the original Republican beliefs.

Not in Coulter's case though. She thinks Cruz is a RINO because he's not tough enough on immigration.

I didn't watch the video because of my slow connection and trying to make sense of Coulter is itself insane, but in my view it would make more sense that she thinks Cruz is a RINO because he is so hard right in general and essentially Coulter is trying to redefine the terminology.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Ironically if he had to do it all over again I doubt Romney would stick to the "self-deportation" position Anne loves so much.

But since he isn't going to run, which 2016er will most appeal to the Coulter-like single-issue anti-immigration voters?  I had assumed Cruz was pure on this but apparently not, so if not him then who?

Cruz, Rand Paul (his plan was the least bad of the path proposals) and if he doesn't/hasn't also flip flopped, John Kasich, who had rather high ratings from the enforcement only crowd whilst in Congress.

[Non Swing Voter]

Love it.  Republicans really do hate change...  they can't even change their candidates after 8 years.

[Cobbler]

Love it.  Republicans really do hate change...  they can't even change their candidates after 8 years.

Right, while the Democrats seem likely to nominate a Clinton. Not exactly a fresh face.

[Fuzzy Bear]

Historically, the GOP has given 2nd shots to a number of their failed Presidential nominees.  Tom Dewey lost in 1944, but was the GOP choice in 1948.  Richard Nixon lost in 1960, but was renominated in 1968, and went on to win.  The Democrats nominated William Jennings Bryan three (3) times.  Adlai Stevenson was nominated twice, although he was pretty much considered a sacrificial lamb the second time.

Hubert Humphrey could very much have been nominated in 1976 for the Democrats if he had run; he was the favorite of labor, and had reconciled himself enough with the more conservative wing of the Democratic Party to where at least the party would have appeared united behind him.  Al Gore could have had the Democratic Presidential nomination for the asking in 2004, and, possibly, in 2008 (although his personal problems may have marred that campaign).

The idea of a Romney candidacy in 2016 isn't as silly as one thinks.  He lost, and he lost worse than people thought he should have lost by, but it was hardly a landslide, and there are some key voters in key states that well may have buyer's remorse on voting for Obama.  The rest of the GOP pack is pretty unimpressive, and while Romney has his baggage, he is still wealthy, and none of his gaffes are the type that permanently rule him out. 

In a rematch, I think Romney could possibly win.  People didn't warm to him, and he ran a poor campaign, but I view that as more a problem with his campaign team than with the candidate.  By 2016, many of the negatives that Romney's enemies think will be working against him (the 47% comment, his flaunting of wealth, his elitism) can fade away if given a better campaign with a more credible narrative.

I think that the main reason Romney lost is the fact that he was portrayed as a "job creator", and that just simply isn't true.  Romney is a "wealth creator", and in doing so, he's done things that are important skills for a President to have.  He's made tough decisions to shut down failing companies.  He's forced balking companies to live within their means.  These kind of things, packaged correctly, could have appealed to moderate, independent voters who would be impressed by economic competence.  Unfortunately, they were shown a "job creator" who didn't create jobs.  A better, more honest campaign would have sold Romney for who he was, and not try to portray him as something he was not.