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Matty
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« on: April 08, 2014, 12:41:48 AM »

The WPA of the 30s. This was probably the most successful government effort in united states history, and fiscal conservatives rarely ever bring it up, for its success violates much of their predictions and philosophy. I think we should have a permanent WPA so that people who are willing to work always have a plan B.
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« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2014, 12:43:33 AM »

It's too left-wing for most Democrats to talk about, too.
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« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2014, 07:02:17 AM »

They don't bring it up because they know most of their constituents don't even know who was responsible for Social Security and Medicare.
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« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2014, 05:03:17 PM »

I doubt any conservative who is not on this forum or in academia knows what your talking about. The same can be said of liberals, of course.
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« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2014, 05:04:28 PM »

Ugh, conservatives bring it up all the time.
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« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2014, 05:15:02 PM »

It's too left-wing for most Democrats to talk about, too.

Actually, that's not how the WPA was seen at the time. The American Federation of Labor (that bastion of conservative, business-oriented trade unionism) as well as the Communist Party, the Socialist Party, etc. all condemned the CCC and the WPA as 'forced labor programs', iirc around the time that they were enacted. The 'left-wing' solution to the Depression at that time was a reduction in working hours, which was proposed as early as 1933 by folks like Hugo Black, who introduced an amendment to the National Industrial Recovery Act to establish a 30 hour workweek (which was uniformly backed by the left; it didn't see the light of day because the Roosevelt administration strongly opposed such an amendment, favoring instead to create make-work programs.) Indeed, it's kind of weird that creating wage labor is now seen as the left-wing solution to our current woes, given that left-wingers prior to the 1930s would have been wholly opposed to such 'solutions' because they were much more favorable to plans aimed at shortening the amount of time people spent under wage labor, rather than increasing the overall amount of people forced into it.
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« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2014, 05:46:42 PM »
« Edited: April 08, 2014, 05:48:38 PM by AggregateDemand »

The WPA of the 30s. This was probably the most successful government effort in united states history, and fiscal conservatives rarely ever bring it up, for its success violates much of their predictions and philosophy. I think we should have a permanent WPA so that people who are willing to work always have a plan B.

You've never heard of "workfare"?

Republicans don't talk about WPA or workfare often because they prefer to use the military.
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« Reply #7 on: April 09, 2014, 06:51:58 PM »

What do you mean by that? There is very little doubt among scholars that the WPA achieved what the market couldn't at the time: giving people jobs.
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