SENATE BILL: The Duke-Scott Educating The People Reform (Debating)

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

Could any of us get on board with expanding Wifi to Atlasian public high schools if the cost to expand it to all public schools is too expensive? Or maybe that and public libraries? I know of people who go there to use computers, although free wifi is pretty readily accessible in most cities these days.

[Cincinnatus]

The amendment has been adopted.

[bore]

There are roughly 25 000 high schools in the US, so assuming the cost is 736 000 and 61% of them don't have wifi, it would cost about 11 billion.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

$11 billion should be easier to stomach compared to $45 billion.

[Lumine]

$11 billion should be easier to stomach compared to $45 billion.

Certainly, I'm for it as well. The case can be made that High Schools are the ones that use internet in a more extensive way, and so deserve the prority. Since the cost of that would be only $11 billion, we might as well include public libraries on this.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I was watching Midway for Memorial Day but I didn't get to finish it unti learly this morning. Since I recorded it off of the History Channel's Movies in Time way back in 2004 (or was it 2003) it had a lot of old commercials in it.

One of them was for Dell Wireless Solutions and featured an office managed telling his suborninates, "Why aren't we getting a wireless network? Can't Afford it! So how does 300,000 yards of premium grade network cable sound? It's gonna revolutionize the way we do business." Then it shows people tripping all over the lines, a bicycle gets caught in one and a poor guy's laptop goes flying down the road and finally a guy gets into a taxi with a cable trailing behind it.

For some reason, I thought of this bill.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Okay so $11 billion for wi-fi. What about the rest of the bill?

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

Let's just vote on the bill. We've beaten this wifi issue to death. I am fine if we want to also include public libraries too, but if that's going to be a money issue once again, we can forget it.

[bore]

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I'd be inclined to leave the maintenance and upgrades to the regions.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

So that is a complete replacement for Section II?

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

So that is a complete replacement for Section II?

I suppose so, if we are going to leave the regions up to the maintenance.

[bore]

Yeah, that's a full section replacement.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Yeah, that's a full section replacement.

You have to specify that because the rules stipulate that none referenced portions will be maintained. A necessary rule considering we once amended out a bill title before it was introduced.

Also if the region's will be responsibel for the maintenance, shouldn't it state that somewhat?


Also, LUMINE!!!!!!!! Feedback please?

[Lumine]

Friendly! As the President indicated, it's probably time to reach a final vote as soon as possible (specially as the administration has other educational proposals in mind).

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

CINCY?!!!!!!


What about my question, bore? Lets resolve it before Cincy proceeds?

[bore]

CINCY?!!!!!!


What about my question, bore? Lets resolve it before Cincy proceeds?

What's your question? If it's the one about the rest of the bill I don't see how it's relevant to my amendment.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

CINCY?!!!!!!


What about my question, bore? Lets resolve it before Cincy proceeds?

What's your question? If it's the one about the rest of the bill I don't see how it's relevant to my amendment.

Yeah, that's a full section replacement.

Also if the region's will be responsibel for the maintenance, shouldn't it state that somewhat?  

[bore]

Whoops, not sure how I missed that.

CINCY?!!!!!!


What about my question, bore? Lets resolve it before Cincy proceeds?

What's your question? If it's the one about the rest of the bill I don't see how it's relevant to my amendment.

Yeah, that's a full section replacement.

Also if the region's will be responsibel for the maintenance, shouldn't it state that somewhat?  

And say what "The regions shall be expected to maintain and upgrade the aforementioned wifi networks"

The impression I'm getting is there is nothing we can actually do to make that happen. Obliging it is unconstitutional, the bill already specifies that we can't cut funding in other areas and this isn't a free gift which they wouldn't turn down.

There seems to be a major flaw in the game that the federal government can't force the regions to do anything, short of the nuclear option, so we're either left with the federal government doing everything or it doing nothing. It's all a spectacular mess. I've said it before but if we want to have a functioning game instead of the current situation where both regional and federal governments do their own thing and make laws which contradict or ignore each other, we need to have some sort of clear, simple delineation of powers.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Weren't we discussing this matter in the Public Spaces bill thing?

[bore]

Yeah, but it pops up everywhere

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Yeah, but it pops up everywhere

The hardest part would be deciding who gets what policy area.

A con-con might help if you got enough to agree to even discuss the matter, and then you have to work out which level gets what.

[bore]

Yeah, but it pops up everywhere

The hardest part would be deciding who gets what policy area.

A con-con might help if you got enough to agree to even discuss the matter, and then you have to work out which level gets what.

Yeah, apart from a few no brainers (e.g foreign affairs being a federal issue) it would be difficult, but worth doing.

[Cincinnatus]

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[Cincinnatus]

Amendment 61:37 has been adopted.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

What is the total cost picture we are looking at here now?