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H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY
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« on: April 14, 2014, 09:01:01 AM »

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« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2014, 11:18:56 AM »

Nay.
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« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2014, 02:19:26 PM »

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What in the blazes? You've gone and taken the teeth out!
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« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2014, 09:42:21 PM »

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What in the blazes? You've gone and taken the teeth out!

I don't really think that punishing districts and teachers for not following our druthers is what Federal education policy should be about. But if you do, what punishment do you recommend?   

I'm not that up on education policy/school incentives, but I do think there should be punishments for schools failing to provide lunch (although I don't think a one-size-fits-all approach would work). Perhaps the regions or states or other such lower tier of government would be the carriers out of punishment?
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« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2014, 06:00:23 AM »

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What in the blazes? You've gone and taken the teeth out!

I don't really think that punishing districts and teachers for not following our druthers is what Federal education policy should be about. But if you do, what punishment do you recommend?   

I'm not that up on education policy/school incentives, but I do think there should be punishments for schools failing to provide lunch (although I don't think a one-size-fits-all approach would work). Perhaps the regions or states or other such lower tier of government would be the carriers out of punishment?

Regions carry out regional law, not federal law.  And that is where for the most part school policy  should stay.   If we want students to be provided with lunches, we can fund it.  In fact we do under the 2007 Education Reform Act (one of the few worthwhile aspects of that law).  On the whole, regions have traditionally provided the majority of funding for education.  Unless we are going to spend the dough to change that equation, and be responsible to our constituents for that money, we have no business dictating to the regions how to run every aspect of the schools.

Now, this is what's called a strawman, Senator. I don't want the federal government to run "every aspect of the schools", I just don't think it's unreasonable to expect all schools nationwide to cover mental health care and guidance counselors.
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« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2014, 06:01:46 PM »

I can certainly stomach it. It would be easy to pay for: just tax the rich.

What even are our tax rates? IIRC the top one is 60-70%, but I'm not entirely sure. And I think giving schools Wi-Fi is worth a few tens of billions.
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« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2014, 08:55:25 PM »

I can certainly stomach it. It would be easy to pay for: just tax the rich.

What even are our tax rates? IIRC the top one is 60-70%, but I'm not entirely sure. And I think giving schools Wi-Fi is worth a few tens of billions.



That would involve research, dear Yankee.  Surely we have little time for things such as spending thirty seconds to do a wiki search..

Ugh, I have to go on the wiki...

Are we still going by the 2011 Tax Code Act? And would it be possible to make it so you don't have to scroll down all the way to find the search box?
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« Reply #7 on: May 24, 2014, 10:24:33 AM »

If anything we should move to cut the rate back as soon as possible.

But then how will we pay for Wi-Fi Sad Sad Sad?
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« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2014, 12:49:11 PM »

Our tax rates are 60%??? I thought we cut those back a while ago.

According to Yankee we did back in 2013. I'll try and find the new rates on the wiki - Nixy's 2013 budget has them, yes?
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« Reply #9 on: May 24, 2014, 03:08:03 PM »

We did have a 90% top rate in the 1950s, after all.
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« Reply #10 on: June 13, 2014, 10:10:02 AM »

I agree with my colleagues' perspectives on the amendment. While I understand TNF's concerns, I've seen (through my loving father) how some principals frankly aren't trustworthy when it comes to this sort of stuff.
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« Reply #11 on: June 17, 2014, 08:59:37 AM »

Nay.
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« Reply #12 on: July 19, 2014, 09:43:08 PM »

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