SENATE BILL: Duke’s Let’s Put Atlasia to Work Program (Law'd)
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« Reply #100 on: April 30, 2014, 09:05:35 AM »

You are presently pursuing repealing that tax as standalone legislation, correct?


Would you be game for attaching it to one of these job releated bills, and then provided it passes, withdraw the legislation?

Ah, no, it's easy to get confused.  I introduced legislation repealing the Break the Shell Corporations Act, not the Break the Chains Act. 

As for this tax we are talking about, I think it should be lower at least, but I could also see using a smaller tax as a way to fund a loan program.

Okay so you game for an amendment that lowers the tax and redirects the remainder to the loan program?
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« Reply #101 on: April 30, 2014, 05:04:49 PM »

You are presently pursuing repealing that tax as standalone legislation, correct?


Would you be game for attaching it to one of these job releated bills, and then provided it passes, withdraw the legislation?

Ah, no, it's easy to get confused.  I introduced legislation repealing the Break the Shell Corporations Act, not the Break the Chains Act. 

As for this tax we are talking about, I think it should be lower at least, but I could also see using a smaller tax as a way to fund a loan program.

Okay so you game for an amendment that lowers the tax and redirects the remainder to the loan program?

Yes, depending on the loan program.  I don't think I can support just handing the money over to the private banks.
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« Reply #102 on: May 01, 2014, 10:02:47 AM »

What program would you prefer then?
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« Reply #103 on: May 01, 2014, 10:56:30 AM »


Would it make sense to just restart the Small Business Administration and make the loans through that?
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« Reply #104 on: May 02, 2014, 10:05:02 AM »

I would be fine with it provided that of course there is not some other agency that is serving part of the same purpose and could be slated to also do this as well.
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« Reply #105 on: May 05, 2014, 03:07:40 PM »

So I guess no one has any idea about an agency serving any of the same role, so we a go for reinstating the SBA?
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« Reply #106 on: May 05, 2014, 07:52:08 PM »

Duke and I have discussed formatting a banking structure for both loan programs previously discussed.  Coordination is lacking however, in large part due to finals.  In any case, I think we've come to the agreement that we'd rather run the loan programs through a government run institution, rather than "to banks".
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« Reply #107 on: May 05, 2014, 07:57:23 PM »

Duke and I have discussed formatting a banking structure for both loan programs previously discussed.  Coordination is lacking however, in large part due to finals.  In any case, I think we've come to the agreement that we'd rather run the loan programs through a government run institution, rather than "to banks".

Yes, sorry for the delay, but thankfully I have made it through finals unscathed, so we should be able to introduce something more workable in regard to the loan provision.
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« Reply #108 on: May 06, 2014, 04:13:03 AM »

OK, so I just saw the past few replies to this but I had already written this, so I'll propose it anyway since nothing else is going on at the moment. Tongue

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« Reply #109 on: May 06, 2014, 10:53:37 AM »

That amendment is fine, but I think Cinci and I decided we would rather run this through some government run organization as opposed to handing the banks the money and collective the interest payments in a secondary manner.

I'm going to try to have something written shortly, although I will admit I'm not sure which government organization to use or how exactly to structure it.
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« Reply #110 on: May 06, 2014, 03:35:42 PM »

Okay then Friendly if Duke is okay with it.
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« Reply #111 on: May 07, 2014, 02:09:19 PM »

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« Reply #112 on: May 08, 2014, 04:42:11 PM »

Amendment 61:10 by Griffin has been adopted.
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« Reply #113 on: May 09, 2014, 03:08:25 PM »

Ok, do we want to set this up and funnel it through one bank or something connected to the government or just go with it as it is? I am fine either way, but I understand if some have reservations about handing banks money with strings attached (though we have done it before).
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« Reply #114 on: May 09, 2014, 07:27:42 PM »

I am fine with either option at this point.
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« Reply #115 on: May 10, 2014, 07:23:46 AM »

I realize the concerns here, but remmeber people are out of work here. Wink

So anyone have a text to offer or even just discuss formulating some kind of bank or gov't structure?
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« Reply #116 on: May 10, 2014, 12:44:09 PM »

How about cutting the chain business tax in half, and dedicating the revenues from that tax (about $19 bil annual) to a reestablished SBA?  Is that something that people could support in place of the current Section 2 of this bill?
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« Reply #117 on: May 12, 2014, 07:00:24 PM »

I would be fine with that. How about the President?
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« Reply #118 on: May 12, 2014, 07:09:34 PM »

What? Why do we even have a chain tax?

I am fine establishing a SBA or some equivalent agency rather than going through private banks. I do want to allow municipalities to take advantage of this program if some of them want to get a loan to upgrade their facilities or better yet, invest in green technology. If we can ensure that, I am all for this compromise.

Cinci and I were discussing funneling this program through a government agency anyway.
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« Reply #119 on: May 14, 2014, 12:45:31 PM »

How is this?

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« Reply #120 on: May 14, 2014, 03:50:18 PM »

Whatever happened to the green jobs part?
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« Reply #121 on: May 14, 2014, 03:55:02 PM »

We already give out incentives for green jobs, apparently, so it was redundant.
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« Reply #122 on: May 15, 2014, 10:08:05 AM »

I object to the amendment.
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« Reply #123 on: May 16, 2014, 06:21:07 PM »

Duke you like the amendment or not?


Not that it matters with TNF's objection anyway. Wink
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« Reply #124 on: May 16, 2014, 09:49:31 PM »

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Status:  Objection filed by Senator TNF.  A vote is now open on the aforementioned amendment.  Please vote Aye, Nay, or Abstain.

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