U.S denies visa to Hamid Abutalebi, Iranian choice for U.N Ambassador

[NewYorkExpress]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/04/08/iran-hostage-taking-un-envoy/7473075/

The White House has said it will deny the issuance of a visa to Hamid Abutablei, the former Iranian ambassador to Belgium, the European Union, Italy and Australia. U.S government officals, as well as Senators Ted Cruz and Rep. Doug Lamborn have stated Abutablei was a member of the group that participated in the taking of fifty-two hostages in Iran in 1979. Abutablei has insisted his involvement in the crisis was negotation and translation.

Iranian Deputy Foreign Minister Abbas Aragachi was quoted by Iran's Mehr news agency as saying that "The Ministry of Foreign Affairs is trying to pursue the issue through legal channels at the U.N" and that " Iran has no choice to substitute Mr. Aboutalebi".

Hamid Babei, spokesman for the U.N mission of Iran said the decision was "in violation of International Law, the obligation of the host state, and the right of member-states to designate their representatives."
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/04/12/iran-un-envoy-selection/7634591/

[ag]

they should have let him in. Allowing a one-time passage from JFK to the mission and a  ride from the mission to the UN and back at a fixed time and by a fixed route in a precleared vehicle (naturally, without leaving the car, opening the windows, and without stopping, except at street lights. All other movenents to require a prior authorization from the State department.

[politicus]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/04/08/iran-hostage-taking-un-envoy/7473075/

The White House has said it will deny the issuance of a visa to Hamid Abutablei, the former Iranian ambassador to Belgium, the European Union, Italy and Australia. U.S government officals, as well as Senators Ted Cruz and Rep. Doug Lamborn have stated Abutablei was a member of the group that participated in the taking of fifty-two hostages in Iran in 1979. Abutablei has insisted his involvement in the crisis was negotation and translation.

Iranian Deputy Foreign Minister Abbas Aragachi was quoted by Iran's Mehr news agency as saying that "The Ministry of Foreign Affairs is trying to pursue the issue through legal channels at the U.N" and that " Iran has no choice to substitute Mr. Aboutalebi".

Hamid Babei, spokesman for the U.N mission of Iran said the decision was "in violation of International Law, the obligation of the host state, and the right of member-states to designate their representatives."
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/04/12/iran-un-envoy-selection/7634591/

The Iranians are right about this.

[Stand With Israel. Crush Hamas]

Good. Although I wish we could have issued the visa and then arrested him for his crimes the second he set foot on our soil, this is probably the most reasonable solution.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

Hopefully the UN votes to move to Geneva, or something. I am sick of the UN voting on powerless, anti American "f**k you" votes on American soil.

[Bacon King]

Blatant violation of international law:

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[CLARENCE 2015!]

Good

[Snowstalker Mk. II]

Blatant violation of international law:

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We've never cared about international law except when we could use it against our political opponents.

[CLARENCE 2015!]

Who gives a rip.... it is sure as hell against international law to storm an embassy and take innocent people hostage. I agree with the poster above however...let him disembark at JFK and have him tried

[ingemann]

Blatant violation of international law:

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Yes, do you know what else are against international law? Occupation of embassies.

[Хahar 🤔]

It goes without saying that this is entirely unacceptable.

[Franzl]

Hopefully the UN votes to move to Geneva, or something. I am sick of the UN voting on powerless, anti American " you" votes on American soil.

That would be a good decision if the US refuses to respect its legal obligations as host.

[CLARENCE 2015!]

The outrage over this is making me chuckle.... the man stormed an embassy and took the civilians inside hostage for over a year

[Famous Mortimer]

What the US is doing is clearly illegal.

It's also clearly not immoral. I don't know why people are getting so upset about it.

Wait, yeah I do, knee jerk anti-Americanism.

Hey, smoking weed is also clearly illegal in most parts of the United States. Do you throw a fit when people do that? It is illegal after all.

[politicus]

The outrage over this is making me chuckle.... the man stormed an embassy and took the civilians inside hostage for over a year

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Its a basic requirement for the UN to function that the host country doesn't interfere in the way the UN operates. Everything else should be irrelevant in this context.

Still, the US (or any other great power) is a bad choice for the UN HQ. Ideally the UN should be located on international territory. Switzerland would be the next best thing.

[Franzl]

The outrage over this is making me chuckle.... the man stormed an embassy and took the civilians inside hostage for over a year

If he was involved, then he's a horrible person. Still don't see how that's relevant.

[Stand With Israel. Crush Hamas]

If people are really going to make a big deal about "but international law!!!", maybe Seal Team 6 just needs to resolve this and make sure this known terrorist and enemy of the United States doesn't make it to the UN.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

The outrage over this is making me chuckle.... the man stormed an embassy and took the civilians inside hostage for over a year

Technically, the man wasn't involved in seizing the embassy, but he was brought in afterwards because of his language skills and was an integral part of those who continued to hold the hostages.

[Cory]

The fact that he was involved with the embassy storming in 1979 is frankly irrelevant to this issue. As host nation to the UN we have an obligation to allow the chosen Iranian delegate.

[CLARENCE 2015!]

If people are really going to make a big deal about "but international law!!!", maybe Seal Team 6 just needs to resolve this and make sure this known terrorist and enemy of the United States doesn't make it to the UN.

Amen brother!!!

[Famous Mortimer]

The fact that he was involved with the embassy storming in 1979 is frankly irrelevant to this issue. As host nation to the UN we have an obligation to allow the chosen Iranian delegate.

Yep, we're breaking the law.

Why don't you cry over it?

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

The fact that he was involved with the embassy storming in 1979 is frankly irrelevant to this issue. As host nation to the UN we have an obligation to allow the chosen Iranian delegate.

Yep, we're breaking the law.

Why don't you cry over it?

Somebody just broke the law by breaking into your house, beating you, and stealing your car and TV.

Why don't you cry over it? After all, laws can be broken when one pleases now....

[Famous Mortimer]

The fact that he was involved with the embassy storming in 1979 is frankly irrelevant to this issue. As host nation to the UN we have an obligation to allow the chosen Iranian delegate.

Yep, we're breaking the law.

Why don't you cry over it?

Somebody just broke the law by breaking into your house, beating you, and stealing your car and TV.

Why don't you cry over it? After all, laws can be broken when one pleases now....

Breaking this law doesn't really impact anyone. The laws you mentioned are much different.

Just because something is illegal does not mean it is immoral.

Again, I bring up pot. Smoking pot is not immoral. Nor is denying some a-hole entry into our country because he held our citizens hostage.

[Cory]

The fact that he was involved with the embassy storming in 1979 is frankly irrelevant to this issue. As host nation to the UN we have an obligation to allow the chosen Iranian delegate.

Yep, we're breaking the law.

Why don't you cry over it?

So you think we should move the UN HQ to another country?

I'm sorry but there is really no defending this.

[Famous Mortimer]

Murder is indefensible.

This is very defensible.

No one is being killed because of this policy. No one is being physically harmed in any way because of it.

The only thing being hurt is the feelings of people who hate America.