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Hifly
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« on: April 18, 2014, 02:05:27 PM »

The vote has failed, 12-12. Senators Sam Cataldo and Bob Odell voted for repeal with the Democrats, and Lou D'Allessandro crossed to vote against repeal. There is no tiebreaker in the NH Senate, so the bill is dead.

I'm more concerned about the Senate President refusing to bring the decriminalization bill to the floor myself.

Right, because decriminalizing marijuana is clearly more important than making sure people who are wrongly convicted don't get executed for crimes they didn't commit Roll Eyes

Okay, you have absolutely no room to condescend to me. I'm pretty sure I know how my state works better than you.

Ernest explained most of it already, but the death penalty is all but repealed here in NH. Texas has executed more people this year than we have in the 20th century.
You're comparing New Hampshire to Texas, you know the state which has executed a handicapped recently. It's like saying "Franco wasn't that bad because he killed much less people than Hitler".

Your argument wasn't that it was bad for states to execute people, but that it was wrong for states to wrongfully execute people.  There's absolutely no evidence that New Hampshire will be doing that anytime soon even if it doesn't abolish its limited death penalty statute.

Regardless, the right to life is the most fundemental civil right. To think that it's more important to legalise a drug than potentially saving lives is beyond callous.
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« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2014, 04:18:07 AM »
« Edited: April 19, 2014, 04:20:24 AM by Hifly »

The vote has failed, 12-12. Senators Sam Cataldo and Bob Odell voted for repeal with the Democrats, and Lou D'Allessandro crossed to vote against repeal. There is no tiebreaker in the NH Senate, so the bill is dead.

I'm more concerned about the Senate President refusing to bring the decriminalization bill to the floor myself.

Right, because decriminalizing marijuana is clearly more important than making sure people who are wrongly convicted don't get executed for crimes they didn't commit Roll Eyes

Okay, you have absolutely no room to condescend to me. I'm pretty sure I know how my state works better than you.

Ernest explained most of it already, but the death penalty is all but repealed here in NH. Texas has executed more people this year than we have in the 20th century.
You're comparing New Hampshire to Texas, you know the state which has executed a handicapped recently. It's like saying "Franco wasn't that bad because he killed much less people than Hitler".

Your argument wasn't that it was bad for states to execute people, but that it was wrong for states to wrongfully execute people.  There's absolutely no evidence that New Hampshire will be doing that anytime soon even if it doesn't abolish its limited death penalty statute.

Regardless, the right to life is the most fundemental civil right. To think that it's more important to legalise a drug than potentially saving lives is beyond callous.

The bill wouldn't have nullified the sentence of the one guy on death row. There are no lives to be saved. The death penalty is irrelevant in the state of New Hampshire. Is it that hard to understand?

Actually, I'd argue that keeping marijuana criminalized destroys more lives in the state than the death penalty.

To prevent another human being from being sentenced to die in New Hampshire is a more just cause than legalising an intoxicating drug that can cause harm to yourself. It's a democratic cause.
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Hifly
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« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2014, 05:13:03 AM »

The vote has failed, 12-12. Senators Sam Cataldo and Bob Odell voted for repeal with the Democrats, and Lou D'Allessandro crossed to vote against repeal. There is no tiebreaker in the NH Senate, so the bill is dead.

I'm more concerned about the Senate President refusing to bring the decriminalization bill to the floor myself.

Right, because decriminalizing marijuana is clearly more important than making sure people who are wrongly convicted don't get executed for crimes they didn't commit Roll Eyes

Okay, you have absolutely no room to condescend to me. I'm pretty sure I know how my state works better than you.

Ernest explained most of it already, but the death penalty is all but repealed here in NH. Texas has executed more people this year than we have in the 20th century.
You're comparing New Hampshire to Texas, you know the state which has executed a handicapped recently. It's like saying "Franco wasn't that bad because he killed much less people than Hitler".

Your argument wasn't that it was bad for states to execute people, but that it was wrong for states to wrongfully execute people.  There's absolutely no evidence that New Hampshire will be doing that anytime soon even if it doesn't abolish its limited death penalty statute.

Regardless, the right to life is the most fundemental civil right. To think that it's more important to legalise a drug than potentially saving lives is beyond callous.

The bill wouldn't have nullified the sentence of the one guy on death row. There are no lives to be saved. The death penalty is irrelevant in the state of New Hampshire. Is it that hard to understand?

Actually, I'd argue that keeping marijuana criminalized destroys more lives in the state than the death penalty.

To prevent another human being from being sentenced to die in New Hampshire is a more just cause than legalising an intoxicating drug that can cause harm to yourself. It's a democratic cause.

The War on Drugs has killed more people in the last twenty years than the death penalty has in the last seventy.  Do some research.

We're talking about legalising marijuana, not the loose "War on Drugs" (and while we're on "drugs", do you understand how many more people have accidentally died from overdosing vs the death penalty?). Also, how many people have died in New Hampshire as a result of the "War on Drugs"?

On the subject of marijuana, if nobody has died in New Hampshire from its usage, then more people have died as a result of the death penalty and thus its abolition is naturally vital.
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