In which region do Kansas, Nebraska, & the Dakotas fit? (user search)
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  In which region do Kansas, Nebraska, & the Dakotas fit? (search mode)
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Midwest
 
#2
West
 
#3
Neither/both equally
 
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Author Topic: In which region do Kansas, Nebraska, & the Dakotas fit?  (Read 2790 times)
traininthedistance
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« on: April 12, 2014, 03:42:53 PM »

Yes, I am aware of that.  That's the Census Bureau's opinion.  This is about what Atlas thinks.  There's a Texas thread on the off-topic board.  The Census places Texas in the South, but many say Texas is not completely Southern.  It's not as if once you cross the border from Texas into New Mexico that the regional landscape or culture instantly changes (though I suppose it's possible sometimes).

I don't completely agree with the Census.  I disagree with classifying Maryland & Delaware, but not Missouri, as Southern.

Anyway, I agree that the 4 states in the poll are mostly Midwestern overall.  However, there is obvious Western influence.  Where I live, both sides of the SD/MN border appear the same, but the western part of my state is more Wyomingish.

I agree that MD, DE, and MO don't really belong where they are anymore- but they did when the Census first came up with this grouping, and you kind of have to keep it from census to census for statistical continuity.  But, yes, Maryland and Delaware have been getting steadily more Northeastern, and Missouri more Southern.

All the other states are clearly in the right region.  Yes, along the Great Plains you have a nice long edge case where the western bits are more Western and the Eastern bits more Midwest/Southern... but seeing as the eastern bits are more populous, if those states can only go in one basket the Census has put them in the right one.
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traininthedistance
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« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2014, 11:37:38 AM »

To train's comment, MO is becoming less southern as areas like Little Dixie are losing their southern character in favor of a typical rural Midwest. The St Louis and KC metros make up over half the population and they aren't Southern cities. The only really Southern areas are in the Ozarks and Bootheel. The political shifts are more like KS than like the South.

Thanks for the correction.  I was thinking about things like the religion map (where Missouri is strongly Baptist, like the South), the recent addition of Mizzou to the SEC (and commentators saying that that signified Missouri's increasing allegiance to the South rather than the Midwest), as well as a vague sense that the Ozarks were growing while the KC and STL metros weren't.  But obviously that is all from a distance and I'm glad to be corrected.
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