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« Reply #25 on: April 14, 2014, 04:11:25 PM »

If a solid Republican state like Texas is in favor of legalization 60/40, I see no reason to doubt that a solid Democratic state is 60/40 against marijuana.

This isn't really an issue that divides along clear left-right lines.

Well let's consider here. Which is going to be more supportive, Michele Bachmann's district or my neighborhood?

Your district, I'd imagine, in this case, but that makes what AggregateDemand is saying make even less sense.
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« Reply #26 on: April 14, 2014, 04:13:48 PM »

If a solid Republican state like Texas is in favor of legalization 60/40, I see no reason to doubt that a solid Democratic state is 60/40 against marijuana.

This isn't really an issue that divides along clear left-right lines.

Well let's consider here. Which is going to be more supportive, Michele Bachmann's district or my neighborhood?

Since it would help explain why they voted for her, Bachmann's. Tongue
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« Reply #27 on: April 14, 2014, 04:35:54 PM »

A lot of seniors in Minnesota.
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« Reply #28 on: April 14, 2014, 07:56:03 PM »

Looks like an outlier, but polls are all over the map on this issue.
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« Reply #29 on: April 14, 2014, 08:38:34 PM »

This surprised me quite me bit. I thought MN would be among the first ten states to legalize it, but to be honest, 99% of that is me buying into BRTDs fanciful image of the state.
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« Reply #30 on: April 14, 2014, 09:43:28 PM »

Hopefully this is true.
Also the racial argument doesn't fly because there is the Somalian population who are still willing to support traditional values and not smoke pot.
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« Reply #31 on: April 15, 2014, 12:06:59 AM »

While this is a bit of a nick, we shouldn't force something like this onto Minnesota if people are opposed to it, just wait until the public opinion changes.

And wait, what are Dayton's positions on Drugs?
He has a hard stance on illegal drugs, opposes recreational marijuana, and is tentative on medical marijuana, but is widely being accused as the man "blocking" treatment to those with illnesses and seizures. Dayton though has been told by a variety of cops, public health commissioners, and MN medical associations the harms of it like higher blood pressure, larger risks of heart attacks, the impairment of drivers and increase in the rates of car accidents, interferes with learning, judgment, concentration and memory, affects brain development within a baby during a pregnancy, makes you more mentally insane, get hallucinations, feel dizzy and fatigue, destroys brain cells, damages the lungs, is a gateway to other worse drugs from experience and pleasure in feeling high, can destroy the lives of high school and college teens etc.  Nonetheless, he's still trying to find a middle line that the legislature and public health officials can agree on and still find a way to reduce seizure rates among children. Dayton is not the enemy and whether giving specific parts of medical marijuana to 5 year olds is proven to work or not, there are better ways out there for quality care for kids with seizures, or adults with Alzheimer's or help with arthritis, anxiety or depression issues.

And despite my opposition to both types of marijuana, this poll is too skewed to the right (with the exception of minimum wage and Klobuchar's approval). Last time I checked, Dayton and Franken had approvals in the high 50s and no way is Obama/Obamacare that unpopular. Ohio is more socially conservative than MN to and Quinnipiac barely had a majority of Ohioans in support of recreational marijuana (though that may have been skewed a little bit, to), so it would pass if it went to a referendum in MN, but very unlikely to happen since Atty. General Lori Swanson, DFL, also opposes synthetic drugs and would make sure it wouldn't get to the ballot.
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« Reply #32 on: April 15, 2014, 12:41:06 AM »

Dayton though has been told by a variety of cops, public health commissioners, and MN medical associations the harms of it like higher blood pressure, larger risks of heart attacks, the impairment of drivers and increase in the rates of car accidents
1. Lots of things do that. This isn't a particularly damning revalation.
2. Exaggeration.
3. Just don't drive while high. Treat it like alcohol.


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If they are irresponsible idiots. Most people, however, much like with alcohol, will be fine.
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« Reply #33 on: April 15, 2014, 12:45:19 AM »

Dayton though has been told by a variety of cops, public health commissioners, and MN medical associations the harms of it like higher blood pressure, larger risks of heart attacks, the impairment of drivers and increase in the rates of car accidents
1. Lots of things do that. This isn't a particularly damning revalation.
2. Exaggeration.
3. Just don't drive while high. Treat it like alcohol.


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If they are irresponsible idiots. Most people, however, much like with alcohol, will be fine.

I don't think the alcohol comparison will work, since I'm pretty sure he supports prohibition as well. At least he's consistent.
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« Reply #34 on: April 15, 2014, 06:45:59 AM »

State full of white people doesn't see the need to repeal laws that are only enforced against brown people, more at eleven.

Not the most "responsible" comment ever written, but nevertheless your post made me laugh. Smiley
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« Reply #35 on: April 15, 2014, 03:47:02 PM »

State full of white people doesn't see the need to repeal laws that are only enforced against brown people, more at eleven.

Not the most "responsible" comment ever written, but nevertheless your post made me laugh. Smiley

It's also quite true. Which makes it not really funny.

Whites and Blacks both use marijuana at the same rate, but guess which race is more likely to be incarcerated for it? And it's not even close.
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