Is Elizabeth Warren looking more like a candidate?

[Mister Mets]

There are two things I believe about Elizabeth Warren. She would be a strong candidate in the Democratic presidential nomination (Grassroots support. Represents the same milestone as Hillary Clinton. Geographic edge in New Hampshire primary. Fits Anti Wall Street mood better than anyone else.) but she's also unlikely to run (People in their 60s who run for President have tended to believe that they were presidential timber for some time.)

But she's in the news with a new book. In one excerpt, she criticizes Obama's advisors from the left.
http://www.mediaite.com/online/elizabeth-warren-reveals-obama-advisors-sexist-comments-toward-her/

And she got publicity for a speech in which she criticized likely Republican candidates Paul Ryan and Ted Cruz that she made in a speech.
http://crooksandliars.com/cltv/2014/04/elizabeth-warren-rips-paul-ryan-and

And she got the support of the President of the AFL-CIO.
http://www.nationaljournal.com/politics/the-country-s-biggest-union-leader-wants-elizabeth-warren-to-be-president-20140416

When she looks in the mirror, is a potential President looking back at her?

[MurrayBannerman]

The only candidates she's competitive against are guys like Cruz, Perry, and Paul Ryan (aka the guys who have no business running in the first place).

[SWE]

The only candidates she's competitive against are guys like Cruz, Perry, and Paul Ryan (aka the guys who have no business running in the first place).

The most popular political figure in America wouldn't be competitive?

[MurrayBannerman]

The only candidates she's competitive against are guys like Cruz, Perry, and Paul Ryan (aka the guys who have no business running in the first place).

The most popular political figure in America wouldn't be competitive?

Who are you talking about? Certainly not Warren.

She'll won't be able to win against an establishment GOP candidate that doesn't have his foot in his mouth.

[SWE]

The only candidates she's competitive against are guys like Cruz, Perry, and Paul Ryan (aka the guys who have no business running in the first place).

The most popular political figure in America wouldn't be competitive?

Who are you talking about? Certainly not Warren.

She'll won't be able to win against an establishment GOP candidate that doesn't have his foot in his mouth.

http://www.politico.com/story/2014/04/elizabeth-warren-2016-elections-poll-105338.html?hp=r3

[Mister Mets]

The only candidates she's competitive against are guys like Cruz, Perry, and Paul Ryan (aka the guys who have no business running in the first place).

The question's more about the primary than the general election.

I have ulterior motives for wanting her as a primary candidate.

The only candidates she's competitive against are guys like Cruz, Perry, and Paul Ryan (aka the guys who have no business running in the first place).

The most popular political figure in America wouldn't be competitive?

Who are you talking about? Certainly not Warren.

She'll won't be able to win against an establishment GOP candidate that doesn't have his foot in his mouth.

http://www.politico.com/story/2014/04/elizabeth-warren-2016-elections-poll-105338.html?hp=r3

She's 1.5 points higher on that scale than Bobby Jindal.

[daveosupremo]

As you said, she won't run. If she did, she would likely have better odds of stopping Clinton than anyone else on the left. College kids and progressives love her, but she's too far left of the American mainstream, especially after 8 years of Obama. She would get decimated in a general election by any but the weakest Republicans (she may beat Bush, Santorum or Jindal, but even that would be a long shot. Cruz would beat her easily.)

[SWE]

As you said, she won't run. If she did, she would likely have better odds of stopping Clinton than anyone else on the left. College kids and progressives love her, but she's too far left of the American mainstream, especially after 8 years of Obama. She would get decimated in a general election by any but the weakest Republicans (she may beat Bush, Santorum or Jindal, but even that would be a long shot. Cruz would beat her easily.)

Bush is one of the weakest and Cruz is the strongest

[Cory]

As you said, she won't run. If she did, she would likely have better odds of stopping Clinton than anyone else on the left. College kids and progressives love her, but she's too far left of the American mainstream, especially after 8 years of Obama. She would get decimated in a general election by any but the weakest Republicans (she may beat Bush, Santorum or Jindal, but even that would be a long shot. Cruz would beat her easily.)

No he wouldn't.

[daveosupremo]

Bush is one of the weakest and Cruz is the strongest

I didn't say Cruz was one of the strongest, but Bush is absolutely one of the weakest.

[bballrox4717]

As you said, she won't run. If she did, she would likely have better odds of stopping Clinton than anyone else on the left. College kids and progressives love her, but she's too far left of the American mainstream, especially after 8 years of Obama. She would get decimated in a general election by any but the weakest Republicans (she may beat Bush, Santorum or Jindal, but even that would be a long shot. Cruz would beat her easily.)

And what evidence is there for that? National polling on Warren is useless due to low name recognition. It should also be remembered that the only reason that Brown made it close against her was his relatively high approval ratings in Massachusetts (there's even a consensus on this forum that Brown could have won the governor's race this year if he ran).

From what it seems, there is a huge, bipartisan opening for a populist campaign against the banks and for better student loan practices. Warren seems to have no problems raising large sums of cash. And most importantly, as long as the Obama coalition holds, it seems that the race is a contest for the Democrats to turn out as many voters as possible. Remember, Obama lost among independents against Romney pretty badly and lost white voters among the largest margins in history.

IMO, Warren is probably the strongest candidate the Democrats could run besides Clinton and Gillibrand.

[Rockefeller GOP]

She's like the new darling of liberals, so they have clouded views.  I think most people see Warren as much too liberal.

[IceSpear]

Elizabeth Warren breathed oxygen today. I think she's running. I mean, if she wasn't, why even bother?

[Ogre Mage]

When she looks in the mirror, is a potential President looking back at her?

No.  I get that the Republican fantasy is for a Warren run to derail Clinton or at least fatally weaken her for the general election, but it isn't happening.  It's one thing for Clinton to have around a 45-25 lead in 2007 Democratic Primary polls.  Clinton leading Warren 73-9 and 69-6 in 2014 is another matter. 

http://pollingreport.com/wh16dem.htm

[eric82oslo]

For sure she won't be running if Hillary does. In fact no female will run alongside her (on the Democratic side). Anyone who thinks otherwise is deluded. The only ones to have an inflated ego big enough to try to take her on would be male candidates. No female has yet critized Hillary the way (for instance) Brian Schweitzer has done. And even he is extremely unlikely to run, seeing that he receives exactly 0% support in almost every single poll.

[Mr. Morden]

Elizabeth Warren breathed oxygen today. I think she's running. I mean, if she wasn't, why even bother?

This is my thought as well.  So she wrote a book and she criticized Ted Cruz.  That means she's running for president?

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

When she looks in the mirror, is a potential President looking back at her?

No.  I get that the Republican fantasy is for a Warren run to derail Clinton or at least fatally weaken her for the general election, but it isn't happening.  It's one thing for Clinton to have around a 45-25 lead in 2007 Democratic Primary polls.  Clinton leading Warren 73-9 and 69-6 in 2014 is another matter.  

http://pollingreport.com/wh16dem.htm

Yeah, just like McCain won in a landslide against the eventual nominee of the long drawn out 2008 Democratic primary.

OH NOES WE'RE ALL DOOMED IF SOMEONE DARES CHALLENGE HILLARY IN THE PRIMARY!!!!!!!!!!!!

[IceSpear]

When she looks in the mirror, is a potential President looking back at her?

No.  I get that the Republican fantasy is for a Warren run to derail Clinton or at least fatally weaken her for the general election, but it isn't happening.  It's one thing for Clinton to have around a 45-25 lead in 2007 Democratic Primary polls.  Clinton leading Warren 73-9 and 69-6 in 2014 is another matter.  

http://pollingreport.com/wh16dem.htm

Yeah, just like McCain won in a landslide against the eventual nominee of the long drawn out 2008 Democratic primary.

OH NOES WE'RE ALL DOOMED IF SOMEONE DARES CHALLENGE HILLARY IN THE PRIMARY!!!!!!!!!!!!

The argument could be made that if Obama or Hillary had a clear path to the nomination in 2008, they could've beaten McCain by an even bigger margin.

[Tieteobserver]

Though she was able to beat Mr Brown a little more than an year ago, it was far from noteworthy. It would be quite a feat had she defeated a Larry McDonald in GA.

Besides, as someone up there pointed out, and 3 Bay-Staters I had contact a few weeks ago here told me, even Ted Kennedy would be disgruntled by how annoyingly liberal this lady is. Honestly, not even the most benevolent, bubbly liberal heart could honestly look at that nice Anglo face of hers and see a NA.

[Maxwell]

When she looks in the mirror, is a potential President looking back at her?

No.  I get that the Republican fantasy is for a Warren run to derail Clinton or at least fatally weaken her for the general election, but it isn't happening.  It's one thing for Clinton to have around a 45-25 lead in 2007 Democratic Primary polls.  Clinton leading Warren 73-9 and 69-6 in 2014 is another matter.  

http://pollingreport.com/wh16dem.htm

Yeah, just like McCain won in a landslide against the eventual nominee of the long drawn out 2008 Democratic primary.

OH NOES WE'RE ALL DOOMED IF SOMEONE DARES CHALLENGE HILLARY IN THE PRIMARY!!!!!!!!!!!!

The argument could be made that if Obama or Hillary had a clear path to the nomination in 2008, they could've beaten McCain by an even bigger margin.

Probably not. The primaries did very little damage, and if anything, further vetted Obama and Hillary as candidates.