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« on: April 17, 2014, 11:54:20 AM »

yes, enthusiastically.
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« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2014, 11:54:53 AM »

No, and enthusiastically.
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« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2014, 11:56:11 AM »

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And why do you hate so much the unions Waltermitty?
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« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2014, 11:56:53 AM »

No, not a right-wing Democrat.
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« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2014, 11:58:10 AM »


they are usually corrupt and their anti-meritocracy views do nothing but run businesses right into the ground.
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« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2014, 11:58:54 AM »

Of course. Give a corporation the right to force me into an employment organization? Hell no.
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« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2014, 12:04:58 PM »



And no, I don't support right-to-fire laws
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« Reply #7 on: April 17, 2014, 12:14:01 PM »


they are usually corrupt and their anti-meritocracy views do nothing but run businesses right into the ground.
Merit doesn't exist Waltermitty.
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« Reply #8 on: April 17, 2014, 12:20:29 PM »

Unions are one of the issues I fit in with the generic right on. Yes, I do support right to work laws.
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« Reply #9 on: April 17, 2014, 12:31:12 PM »

Oppose. As Ernest (was it?) pointed out a while ago, conservatives should support the right for employers to decide whether they want their employees to be in a union or not.
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« Reply #10 on: April 17, 2014, 12:42:49 PM »


The market says otherwise.
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« Reply #11 on: April 17, 2014, 01:24:20 PM »
« Edited: April 17, 2014, 06:37:49 PM by Rep. Deus »

Ideally, we would have a free labor market in which employers could hire or fire whoever they wished, so long as they did not infringe upon the terms of an employment contract. Employers would also be free to make contracts with employees or employee bargaining units. If labor unions limited their activities to peaceful bargaining, I would support the right of employers to enter into union security agreements.

However, labor unions often employ coercive tactics (organizing sit-ins on an employer's property, preventing shipments from entering or exiting plants, violently assaulting "scabs," etc.) The use of such tactics during labor strikes has given rise to labor laws which require employers to "bargain fairly" with striking workers. In effect, union violence and bullying has terrorized legislators into passing laws that give them an upper hand in the bargaining process, which is especially unfair towards non-union workers.

Until such time as all "fair bargaining" laws have been repealed and coercive actions by labor unions are actually punished, I support right-to-work laws. They are not ideal, but they are certainly better than the current situation in non-RTW States, which is unjust towards non-union workers.

That's a strange term to use, considering that right-to-work laws prevent employers from firing employees for non-membership in a labor organization.

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« Reply #12 on: April 17, 2014, 01:28:41 PM »

Oppose. As Ernest (was it?) pointed out a while ago, conservatives should support the right for employers to decide whether they want their employees to be in a union or not.
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« Reply #13 on: April 17, 2014, 01:52:58 PM »

Why is WalterMitty still identifying as a Democrat? I really don't understand it.
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« Reply #14 on: April 17, 2014, 02:00:46 PM »

Why is WalterMitty still identifying as a Democrat? I really don't understand it.

muh gun control
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« Reply #15 on: April 17, 2014, 02:02:16 PM »

Why is WalterMitty still identifying as a Democrat? I really don't understand it.

muh gun control
If so, then he makes me ashamed to be a supporter of Gun Control, a shade of blue would do him far better.
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« Reply #16 on: April 17, 2014, 02:06:40 PM »


Believe me, Chile was a"free" market's Guinea pig and here merit doesn't exists at all (inequality is as big as in many African countries)
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« Reply #17 on: April 17, 2014, 02:29:28 PM »

Oppose. As Ernest (was it?) pointed out a while ago, conservatives should support the right for employers to decide whether they want their employees to be in a union or not.
I don't recall saying that, but I could have.  I also support allowing secondary boycotts, but I do oppose allowing sit-down strikes in which a union holds hostage an employer's capital and other similar tactics that prevent the employer from finding other workers who are willing to work for the wages and conditions offered.  I also think unions have lost a lot of their clout because a number of the functions they could do beyond simply bargaining over wages have been taken over by government and thus reduce the incentives workers have in belonging to a union.
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« Reply #18 on: April 17, 2014, 02:34:59 PM »

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« Reply #19 on: April 17, 2014, 03:55:53 PM »
« Edited: April 17, 2014, 04:28:51 PM by DemPGH »

Certainly not. And moreover, "right to work" is a completely disingenuous moniker. "Right to be a peasant" is more like it. And, It's things like that that make me think that the GOP, to a degree, counts on people not being able to figure out what is good for an individual and what is not.
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« Reply #20 on: April 17, 2014, 04:56:09 PM »

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« Reply #21 on: April 17, 2014, 05:08:43 PM »
« Edited: April 17, 2014, 05:12:08 PM by shua »

Idk, probably.  I feel like this issue is so clouded by excessive hyperbole I can never figure out what the debate is actually about from a policy standpoint.  I mean what percentage of employers/employees do these laws actually effect?  If it's just for employers who want to force all their employees to join a union, I can't imagine it would be that many.
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« Reply #22 on: April 17, 2014, 05:11:37 PM »

No
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« Reply #23 on: April 17, 2014, 06:27:26 PM »

Yes
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« Reply #24 on: April 17, 2014, 06:28:47 PM »

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