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« on: April 18, 2014, 12:13:00 PM »

Imagine that your party's presidential nominee does not have a college degree, that they are not even a college dropout. They are not considered to be any more unintelligent or uninformed than the average politician and they are not considered to be lacking in political experience. Do you vote for them?

To be realistic it's exclusively Democratic/Republican, if you want to vote in the poll then choose the party most representative of your beliefs.
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« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2014, 12:16:57 PM »

Yes
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« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2014, 01:17:10 PM »

I would, yes.
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« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2014, 01:19:59 PM »

Yes, because a college degree, to me, really doesn't mean anything towards someone's ability. Truman didn't have one and was a good President.
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« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2014, 01:20:35 PM »

Of course (not a judgmental elitist)
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« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2014, 01:22:02 PM »

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« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2014, 01:23:04 PM »

Yes
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« Reply #7 on: April 18, 2014, 02:06:15 PM »

I don't have a college degree either, so sure.
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« Reply #8 on: April 18, 2014, 02:16:05 PM »

Yes, but I probably wouldn't vote for a nominee in a primary who didn't have one.
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« Reply #9 on: April 18, 2014, 03:49:25 PM »

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« Reply #10 on: April 18, 2014, 03:54:32 PM »

That would certainly be a minus, but considering what the alternative would be... obviously yes.
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« Reply #11 on: April 18, 2014, 04:13:56 PM »

Yes of course. I honestly don't see why this is an issue.
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« Reply #12 on: April 18, 2014, 04:17:12 PM »

Yes, because a college degree, to me, really doesn't mean anything towards someone's ability. Truman didn't have one and was a good President.
This is the best answer. I certainly wouldn't mind if a potential candidate had a degree, but it wouldn't make big enough a difference in how I voted in the end if they didn't.
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« Reply #13 on: April 18, 2014, 05:41:17 PM »

probably not lol
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« Reply #14 on: April 18, 2014, 08:35:05 PM »

Yes, whether or not a candidate has a college degree is not a factor when I decide who to vote for.
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« Reply #15 on: April 18, 2014, 08:36:51 PM »

Yes, whether or not a candidate has a college degree is not a factor when I decide who to vote for.
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« Reply #16 on: April 18, 2014, 08:40:53 PM »

Yes (Lula supporter)
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« Reply #17 on: April 18, 2014, 09:11:43 PM »

Yes. Complete non-issue afaic.
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« Reply #18 on: April 18, 2014, 11:17:55 PM »

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« Reply #19 on: April 19, 2014, 01:24:45 AM »

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« Reply #20 on: April 19, 2014, 02:57:23 AM »

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« Reply #21 on: April 19, 2014, 08:19:39 AM »
« Edited: April 19, 2014, 08:21:16 AM by Ready For Hoover '28! »

Yes, but I probably wouldn't vote for a nominee in a primary who didn't have one.
That would certainly be a minus, but considering what the alternative would be... obviously yes.

Given the recent track record of men with degrees, especially a certain Rhodes Scholar from Arkansas and a certain MBA grad from Harvard, I really don't get what makes the degree that important.  Two of our most effective Presidents didn't have degrees.  Hell, the Great Abe grew up in a log cabin and most of his learning was just by reading books and he had a years worth of grade school education.  He became a lawyer not by going to any prestigious law school, but by reading some books on the subject and then sitting down for the bar.  And how can we overlooked Truman?!  Who had the balls to back Humphrey's addition of a Civil Rights plank to the Democratic platform after years of FDR, the double degree from Harvard and Columbia, who put off the issue through all 12 years of his presidency?
These men had something that is more important than the name of the institution they went to school or even if they went to school at all.  And that little thing they had is called courage.  The courage to do what was right and decent, political consequences be damned.  Luckily for both men, the general public agree with them and back them through their years in office.  I sincerely believe that some of our greatest problems that remain unsolved isn't that we don't have the "qualified enough" individuals in office, but we don't have the kind of individuals who are ready to do the right thing.  And the public damn well knows it too.  That we can allow rulings like Citizens United to happen, despite overwhelming public opposition, just shows how degraded the system has become on doing the right thing.

I'm not going to argue that we should elect guys with a high school education only, but I believe that the whole "degree makes greatness" spiel that is sold on a lot of society is bullsh*t.  Some of the dumbest sons of guns I've ever met were those who were in postgraduate law.  Some of the smartest sons of guns I've ever met were guys who dropped out of the eighth grade but now operate several businesses.  It isn't just having a piece of paper that makes one qualified for what they do in life, it's how they use what they have.  I think it would be more important of what the primary candidates stand for than "oh they didn't graduate from college".  I would much rather have a sincere prole who is a sincere dove and social justice high school educated only warrior any day over the neo-liberal Ivy League educated military industrial complex sellouts that seem to be in vogue nowdays.
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« Reply #22 on: April 19, 2014, 09:06:25 AM »

It wouldn't have an effect, unless that person says awfully smug things like "I went to the University of Life". Ugh.
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« Reply #23 on: April 19, 2014, 11:41:12 AM »

Yes, but I probably wouldn't vote for a nominee in a primary who didn't have one.
That would certainly be a minus, but considering what the alternative would be... obviously yes.

Given the recent track record of men with degrees, especially a certain Rhodes Scholar from Arkansas and a certain MBA grad from Harvard, I really don't get what makes the degree that important.  Two of our most effective Presidents didn't have degrees.  Hell, the Great Abe grew up in a log cabin and most of his learning was just by reading books and he had a years worth of grade school education.  He became a lawyer not by going to any prestigious law school, but by reading some books on the subject and then sitting down for the bar.  And how can we overlooked Truman?!  Who had the balls to back Humphrey's addition of a Civil Rights plank to the Democratic platform after years of FDR, the double degree from Harvard and Columbia, who put off the issue through all 12 years of his presidency?
These men had something that is more important than the name of the institution they went to school or even if they went to school at all.  And that little thing they had is called courage.  The courage to do what was right and decent, political consequences be damned.  Luckily for both men, the general public agree with them and back them through their years in office.  I sincerely believe that some of our greatest problems that remain unsolved isn't that we don't have the "qualified enough" individuals in office, but we don't have the kind of individuals who are ready to do the right thing.  And the public damn well knows it too.  That we can allow rulings like Citizens United to happen, despite overwhelming public opposition, just shows how degraded the system has become on doing the right thing.

I'm not going to argue that we should elect guys with a high school education only, but I believe that the whole "degree makes greatness" spiel that is sold on a lot of society is bullsh*t.  Some of the dumbest sons of guns I've ever met were those who were in postgraduate law.  Some of the smartest sons of guns I've ever met were guys who dropped out of the eighth grade but now operate several businesses.  It isn't just having a piece of paper that makes one qualified for what they do in life, it's how they use what they have.  I think it would be more important of what the primary candidates stand for than "oh they didn't graduate from college".  I would much rather have a sincere prole who is a sincere dove and social justice high school educated only warrior any day over the neo-liberal Ivy League educated military industrial complex sellouts that seem to be in vogue nowdays.

You have a very good point, yes.

I should precise that having a degree in business, management, finance or any other lucrative crap would be equivalent to not having any degree in my view. Law, hard sciences or literature would only be a very slight plus. On the other hand, I do believe that having a degree in social sciences or in philosophy would make someone significantly more qualified to hold a public office.
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« Reply #24 on: April 19, 2014, 11:59:13 AM »

Yes because this isn't some entry level position.
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