which ticket do you prefer (democrat only(

[WalterMitty]

option 1 (sane).

[Fritz]

option 2- I like Joe

[WalterMitty]

option 2- I like Joe

you like someone who has been wrong on almost all major foreign policy issues of the past 30 years?

[Fritz]

Meh- I'm not up to arguing the point right now.

[WalterMitty]

Meh- I'm not up to arguing the point right now.

i rest my case.

[Zioneer]

Meh- I'm not up to arguing the point right now.

i rest my case.

What was that in another thread about not being sanctimonious?

[SWE]

Option 1, although I really dislike the fact that I'm on the same side as Mitty here

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Eh, both tickets have flaws (Option 1 would be painfully uninspiring and dullsville; Option 2 would be slightly more firey, but have a higher chance of going completely off the rails)

I think Biden/Schweitzer are superior candidates; and would have a higher chance of winning though.

[Mordecai]

Biden is not bad, but he is too old.

Option 1, although I really dislike the fact that I'm on the same side as Mitty here

[Zioneer]

Eh, both tickets have flaws (Option 1 would be painfully uninspiring and dullsville; Option 2 would be slightly more firey, but have a higher chance of going completely off the rails)

I think Biden/Schweitzer is better and would have more chance of winning though.

Yeah, basically this. Perhaps Biden/Malloy would be better.

[Meursault]

I'm not a devoted Democrat, pun intended, but as I'll probably be in favor of the Democratic ticket year after next then option two, easily - not for any love of Biden, but because Schweitzer is closer to me on the big-ticket issues than practically anyone else in contemporary politics.

[Niemeyerite]

Option 2, by far.

[BaconBacon96]

Option 2 without a doubt, because I like Biden and that ticket could actually win.

[IceSpear]

Both of those tickets are godawful, but if I had to choose, option 1.

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Eh, both tickets have flaws (Option 1 would be painfully uninspiring and dullsville; Option 2 would be slightly more firey, but have a higher chance of going completely off the rails)

I think Biden/Schweitzer is better and would have more chance of winning though.

Yeah, basically this. Perhaps Biden/Malloy would be better.

Nah, if anything Malloy would be worse than O'Malley. Malloy has even worse approvals than O'Malley's OK-ish ratings. Plus he hasn't really had any signature legislation (apart from gun control), unlike O'Malley's record.

I like Schweitzer, but he may become a Palin like embarrassment on the national stage. Who knows?

[Potatoe]

Eh, both tickets have flaws (Option 1 would be painfully uninspiring and dullsville; Option 2 would be slightly more firey, but have a higher chance of going completely off the rails)

I think Biden/Schweitzer is better and would have more chance of winning though.

Yeah, basically this. Perhaps Biden/Malloy would be better.

Nah, if anything Malloy would be worse than O'Malley. Malloy has even worse approvals than O'Malley's OK-ish ratings. Plus he hasn't really had any signature legislation (apart from gun control), unlike O'Malley's record.

I like Schweitzer, but he may become a Palin like embarrassment on the national stage. Who knows?

I dunno, one of the things that would detract from a good Biden ticket would be a Schweitzer pick, considering his awful speech at 2012's DNC, and that he's to blame for Montana going blue/red this year. A better choice would be Gillibrand or even Grimes. Biden doesn't need someone who's very experienced, he's been in office since 1974, so he can get away with picking a more inexperienced VP.

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Eh, both tickets have flaws (Option 1 would be painfully uninspiring and dullsville; Option 2 would be slightly more firey, but have a higher chance of going completely off the rails)

I think Biden/Schweitzer is better and would have more chance of winning though.

Yeah, basically this. Perhaps Biden/Malloy would be better.

Nah, if anything Malloy would be worse than O'Malley. Malloy has even worse approvals than O'Malley's OK-ish ratings. Plus he hasn't really had any signature legislation (apart from gun control), unlike O'Malley's record.

I like Schweitzer, but he may become a Palin like embarrassment on the national stage. Who knows?

I dunno, one of the things that would detract from a good Biden ticket would be a Schweitzer pick, considering his awful speech at 2012's DNC, and that he's to blame for Montana going blue/red this year. A better choice would be Gillibrand or even Grimes. Biden doesn't need someone who's very experienced, he's been in office since 1974, so he can get away with picking a more inexperienced VP.

Was Schweitzer's speech panned then? I mean understand a personal dislike (that folksy schtick tends to grind), but I'm seeing nothing that it was genuinely disliked by people. (Although that whole senate thing was a whole bunch of skullduggery of epic weirdness.)

I don't think Grimes would want to surrender a Senate seat that quickly though (assuming she wins in 2014)... I think Gillibrand would make a good safe seat.

[JRP1994]

Eh, both tickets have flaws (Option 1 would be painfully uninspiring and dullsville; Option 2 would be slightly more firey, but have a higher chance of going completely off the rails)

I think Biden/Schweitzer is better and would have more chance of winning though.

Yeah, basically this. Perhaps Biden/Malloy would be better.

Nah, if anything Malloy would be worse than O'Malley. Malloy has even worse approvals than O'Malley's OK-ish ratings. Plus he hasn't really had any signature legislation (apart from gun control), unlike O'Malley's record.

I like Schweitzer, but he may become a Palin like embarrassment on the national stage. Who knows?

I dunno, one of the things that would detract from a good Biden ticket would be a Schweitzer pick, considering his awful speech at 2012's DNC, and that he's to blame for Montana going blue/red this year. A better choice would be Gillibrand or even Grimes. Biden doesn't need someone who's very experienced, he's been in office since 1974, so he can get away with picking a more inexperienced VP.

Was Schweitzer's speech panned then? I mean understand a personal dislike (that folksy schtick tends to grind), but I'm seeing nothing that it was genuinely disliked by people. (Although that whole senate thing was a whole bunch of skullduggery of epic weirdness.)

I don't think Grimes would want to surrender a Senate seat that quickly though (assuming she wins in 2014)... I think Gillibrand would make a good safe seat.

Schweitzer is not the reason that Romney won Montana in 2012. Montana is an elastic state in which Obama dramatically over-performed in 2008 - 2012 was a reversion to the mean.

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They're both alright.

[SWE]

Eh, both tickets have flaws (Option 1 would be painfully uninspiring and dullsville; Option 2 would be slightly more firey, but have a higher chance of going completely off the rails)

I think Biden/Schweitzer is better and would have more chance of winning though.

Yeah, basically this. Perhaps Biden/Malloy would be better.

Nah, if anything Malloy would be worse than O'Malley. Malloy has even worse approvals than O'Malley's OK-ish ratings. Plus he hasn't really had any signature legislation (apart from gun control), unlike O'Malley's record.

I like Schweitzer, but he may become a Palin like embarrassment on the national stage. Who knows?

I dunno, one of the things that would detract from a good Biden ticket would be a Schweitzer pick, considering his awful speech at 2012's DNC, and that he's to blame for Montana going blue/red this year. A better choice would be Gillibrand or even Grimes. Biden doesn't need someone who's very experienced, he's been in office since 1974, so he can get away with picking a more inexperienced VP.

Was Schweitzer's speech panned then? I mean understand a personal dislike (that folksy schtick tends to grind), but I'm seeing nothing that it was genuinely disliked by people. (Although that whole senate thing was a whole bunch of skullduggery of epic weirdness.)

I don't think Grimes would want to surrender a Senate seat that quickly though (assuming she wins in 2014)... I think Gillibrand would make a good safe seat.

Schweitzer is not the reason that Romney won Montana in 2012. Montana is an elastic state in which Obama dramatically over-performed in 2008 - 2012 was a reversion to the mean.

I think Guntaker was referring to him not running for senate this year, because apparently not wanting to be in Congress is a crime now