SENATE BILL: The Public means Public Act (Redraft Law'd)

[Goldwater]

I know this amendment will be unfriendly, but I think not passing it might cause this bill to lose enough support to fail.

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[TNF]

Amendment is hostile.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Depending on how long it takes to resolve this amendment, I might have one to offer on Section 1 afterwards.

[Cincinnatus]

So, help me here Goldwater.  You're introducing an amendment in order to make this bill more likely to fail?..

[Goldwater]

No. I was saying the bill would be more likely to fail if I didn't propose the amendment. I apologist if I worded my post in a weird way.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

I'm fine with section 2, although it's mostly redundant in that cops already can't enter your car (or home) without a warrant or probable cause. I'm not sure why we need to reiterate that.

As for the rest, I worry that simply allowing people to loiter wherever they'd like will hurt the quality of life for a lot of people and erode property values, and businesses will be hurt because people simply don't want to be hit up for money every time they leave their house to go to the store. I am fine expanding our public housing projects, but the rest of it is just pretty doubtful for the reasons I just stated.

[Adam Griffin]

I'll offer this.

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[TNF]

Amendment is friendly.

[Cincinnatus]

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Feedback: Hostile
Status:  Senators, a vote is now open on the aforementioned amendment.  Please vote Aye, Nay, or Abstain.

[Goldwater]

AYE

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

AYE

[bore]

Aye, but I get the feeling that goldwater's and adam's amendments are functionally the same thing.

[Lumine]

Aye.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

Aye, but I get the feeling that goldwater's and adam's amendments are functionally the same thing.

I get that sense as well.

ABSTAIN for now.

Part of me wants to vote nay and work out another compromise but I'd need some convincing that there is Constitutional authority for either Section 1 or Section 3 in terms of the Senate limiting the regions ability to legislate on this matter.

[TNF]

NAY

[Adam Griffin]

Nay

[President Tyrion]

Aye guess

[DC Al Fine]

Aye

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

Aye, but I get the feeling that goldwater's and adam's amendments are functionally the same thing.

I get that sense as well.

ABSTAIN for now.

Part of me wants to vote nay and work out another compromise but I'd need some convincing that there is Constitutional authority for either Section 1 or Section 3 in terms of the Senate limiting the regions ability to legislate on this matter.

Yeah, I am concerned about the same thing. I am not sure we have the authority to tell regions they cannot legislate in this area. We could attach it to money and do it that way, but merely saying "you cannot enact loitering laws" may be overstepping our boundary aside from all the other issues I have with this bill as mentioned previously.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Aye, but I get the feeling that goldwater's and adam's amendments are functionally the same thing.

I get that sense as well.

ABSTAIN for now.

Part of me wants to vote nay and work out another compromise but I'd need some convincing that there is Constitutional authority for either Section 1 or Section 3 in terms of the Senate limiting the regions ability to legislate on this matter.

My section 1 amendment would have limited the provisions to just the Federal laws relevant to the situation.

[Cincinnatus]

Vote on Amendment 61:03 by Goldwater:

Aye (6): Goldwater, Yankee, bore, Lumine, Tyrion, DC
Nay (2): TNF, Griffin
Abstain (1): shua

Didn't Vote (1): Alfred

The amendment has been adopted.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Griffin your amendment amends a section that no longer exists. You can restore it and add your new text to it at the same time, but your amendment needs to be revised to idnicate that (basically bold the whole section) I think.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Griffin you stil lwant your amendment or not?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Griffin?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

GRIFFIN?!!!