why is being a northeast liberal governor considered a bad thing...

[WalterMitty]

...among many atlasian democrats?

[Potatoe]

Well, they don't really bring anything to the table, unless they are a minority (Patrick) or a woman (Hassan), they don't come from a swing state like Ohio or a Republican leaning State, which doesn't add any Electoral Votes. Also, they are really, really boring.

[WalterMitty]

Well, they don't really bring anything to the table, unless they are a minority (Patrick) or a woman (Hassan), they don't come from a swing state like Ohio or a Republican leaning State, which doesn't add any Electoral Votes. Also, they are really, really boring.

that literally makes me sick.

they dont bring anything to the table?  how about solid progressivism?

and 'boring'?  wtf?  we are electing a president not a motivational speaker.  i dont think some hayseed bolo wearing populist who uses folksy phrases is all that exciting, but apparently the democrats on here eat that stuff up.

[Potatoe]

Well, they don't really bring anything to the table, unless they are a minority (Patrick) or a woman (Hassan), they don't come from a swing state like Ohio or a Republican leaning State, which doesn't add any Electoral Votes. Also, they are really, really boring.

that literally makes me sick.

they dont bring anything to the table?  how about solid progressivism?

They don't bring anything that can help the Party win, look at Dukais or Kerry (Yes, he was a Senator, but the point still stands)

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

Because they're the essence of evil.

[Potatoe]

Because they're the essence of evil.

Don't be so harsh, LePage is the only one I can envision destroying the universe.

[Donerail]

Guntaker's right - they don't add anything special. No outreach to any swing state or minorities.

[Mr. Illini]

It's very easy for the GOP to demonize them as elitist and out of touch since the northeast is seen as outside the mainstream of the county. The term "Massachusetts liberal" was used against Dukakis and Kerry and "Massachusetts moderate" was used against Romney.

The same applies to the south on the other end, I think. It is so easy to demonize Republicans from dixie as being out of touch with the rest of the country since the south is seen as outside the mainstream of the country in the other direction.

[WalterMitty]

It's very easy for the GOP to demonize them as elitist and out of touch since the northeast is seen as outside the mainstream of the county.

maybe if democrats would stop acting like pussies and actually hit back?

instead democrats just try to be bigger republicans than the republicans.

[badgate]

Too many Americans in other regions of the nation fall prey to unfair demagoguery of our North Eastern progressives.

[Mr. Illini]

It's very easy for the GOP to demonize them as elitist and out of touch since the northeast is seen as outside the mainstream of the county.

maybe if democrats would stop acting like pussies and actually hit back?

instead democrats just try to be bigger republicans than the republicans.

Hey, I'm with you there. The Dems need another Kennedy or Wellstone to tell how it is.

[IceSpear]

It's very easy for the GOP to demonize them as elitist and out of touch since the northeast is seen as outside the mainstream of the county.

maybe if democrats would stop acting like pussies and actually hit back?

instead democrats just try to be bigger republicans than the republicans.

Don't you support right to work laws? Oh the irony.

[WalterMitty]

It's very easy for the GOP to demonize them as elitist and out of touch since the northeast is seen as outside the mainstream of the county.

maybe if democrats would stop acting like pussies and actually hit back?

instead democrats just try to be bigger republicans than the republicans.

Don't you support right to work laws? Oh the irony.

yes.  why would i support extortion?

[publicunofficial]

It's very easy for the GOP to demonize them as elitist and out of touch since the northeast is seen as outside the mainstream of the county.

maybe if democrats would stop acting like pussies and actually hit back?

instead democrats just try to be bigger republicans than the republicans.

Says the man who supports RTWFL, the Patriot Act, and would likely vote for Dick Cheney over most Democrats.

[SWE]

It's very easy for the GOP to demonize them as elitist and out of touch since the northeast is seen as outside the mainstream of the county.

maybe if democrats would stop acting like pussies and actually hit back?

instead democrats just try to be bigger republicans than the republicans.

You mean like you?

[windjammer]

Waltermitty, except Cuomo, I don't think there is a such hate for northeast liberal governors.

[🦀🎂🦀🎂]

There is nothing inherently wrong about being a liberal governor, but the reason people are so-so about them being candidates are:

None of them are fantastic in approval ratings.

Legislature skills. If you are a Dem governor of an ultra-blue state you largely have it easy. O'Malley never really had a hard job pushing his agenda through, because his legislature handed him his issues on a silver platter. Congress = whole different kettle of fish.

Political bravery. What takes more "bravery" (using the term in a very loose and cheap way) Supporting single payer healthcare or marriage equality or whatever in Vermont? Or in Montana? I expect a blue state governor to go beyond what is expected of them, not just kinda coast along.

To be short, they're nothing special.

[daveosupremo]

Well, they don't really bring anything to the table, unless they are a minority (Patrick) or a woman (Hassan), they don't come from a swing state like Ohio or a Republican leaning State, which doesn't add any Electoral Votes. Also, they are really, really boring.

that literally makes me sick.

they dont bring anything to the table?  how about solid progressivism?

and 'boring'?  wtf?  we are electing a president not a motivational speaker.  i dont think some hayseed bolo wearing populist who uses folksy phrases is all that exciting, but apparently the democrats on here eat that stuff up.

As opposed to 2008

[Meursault]

Well, they don't really bring anything to the table, unless they are a minority (Patrick) or a woman (Hassan), they don't come from a swing state like Ohio or a Republican leaning State, which doesn't add any Electoral Votes. Also, they are really, really boring.

that literally makes me sick.

they dont bring anything to the table?  how about solid progressivism?

and 'boring'?  wtf?  we are electing a president not a motivational speaker.  i dont think some hayseed bolo wearing populist who uses folksy phrases is all that exciting, but apparently the democrats on here eat that stuff up.

As opposed to 2008

Or 1980.

[Zioneer]

Waltermitty, it's mostly because northeast liberal governors don't exactly have a good track record when it comes to running for president, and there's a sizable portion of the country that is turned off by Northeasterner politicians, because they're perceived as too far left compared to the rest of the country, whether they are or not.

[Mister Mets]

Speaking as a Republican, I'd love it if the Democrats nominated Deval Patrick or Howard Dean.

The political talents necessary to win in a very liberal state don't translate to general election strength in a presidential race. It's easy to attack a liberal governor for a policy that would be more controversial in Colorado or Ohio.

[pbrower2a]

On the other side -- a Southern, right-wing governor would be clobbered outside the South getting stuck with some states that never, never, never vote for a Democratic nominee for President. Northerners can vote for a Southern moderate like Clinton or Gore.

Dubya concealed his right-wing tendencies well and played up some ties to New England.