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« Reply #50 on: April 23, 2014, 01:08:42 PM »


At what age do you recommend children start doing drugs?

Way to make a strawman, dude.

And as others have said, this really needs to happen. Doing drugs (and possibly risking personal safety) shouldn't be something that people have to spend the rest of their lives paying for, with both prison time and a criminal record. One of the most extreme cases would be this man, currently serving live in prison with no chance of parol for...possessing 13 sheets of LSD.

And distributing in cold blood one of the most dangerous drugs to others who could harm themselves using it.

I guess his sentence is making him think twice as to whether it was a good idea to put others in danger.

The lethal dose of LSD is far below the psychoactive dose to an extent even lower than for 100%-legal caffeine. We're not talking about cocaine, heroin, meth, or Quaaludes.

LSD is prosecutable by the measure of weight. The dose for prosecution can include inert substances such as paper or sugar that contain the LSD.

Just so you know. It's almost as if someone carrying cocaine in a handbag were charged with possession of the weight of the handbag and its contents (including such objects as lipstick, tissues, combs or brushes, ballpoint pens, etc.) had those added.

Save the draconian sentences for people involved with such monstrous drugs as cocaine, heroin, and meth.  Draconian sentences are rightly saved for draconian deeds.  
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« Reply #51 on: April 23, 2014, 01:09:22 PM »

http://news.yahoo.com/pardon-attorney-steps-down-as-part-of-drug-offender-clemency-push-162336116.html

As speculated,  US Pardon Attorney Ronald Rodgers, has resigned due to insubordination with the rumored plan.

Good riddance
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« Reply #52 on: April 23, 2014, 02:48:15 PM »

http://news.yahoo.com/pardon-attorney-steps-down-as-part-of-drug-offender-clemency-push-162336116.html

As speculated,  US Pardon Attorney Ronald Rodgers, has resigned due to insubordination with the rumored plan.
Wait, this might actually be happening? Kudos to President Obama, if true.
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« Reply #53 on: April 23, 2014, 04:43:22 PM »


At what age do you recommend children start doing drugs?

The last two Presidents and the current President did drugs. They all turned out ok.

At the White House Press Briefing Carney just kept referring everyone back to the DoJ.  So it won't go down as Obama's idea, but Holder's.

So do you see this as Obama trying to distance himself from it, trying to have his cake and eat it too? Technically, refusing to defend DOMA was Holder's idea as well and Obama went along it. Obama probably does not want to go all in with this just yet, in case it doesn't work out well, but I don't see that as being negative. If he overplays his hand he could damage the cause to end the War on Drugs for another generation.
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« Reply #54 on: April 23, 2014, 06:15:26 PM »

http://news.yahoo.com/pardon-attorney-steps-down-as-part-of-drug-offender-clemency-push-162336116.html

As speculated,  US Pardon Attorney Ronald Rodgers, has resigned due to insubordination with the rumored plan.

Thanks Obama

(no seriously)
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« Reply #55 on: April 23, 2014, 07:29:35 PM »

Ronald Rodgers' resignation, though it will be little-noted in the media, alone justifies Obama's Presidency.
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« Reply #56 on: April 23, 2014, 08:37:28 PM »


At what age do you recommend children start doing drugs?

The last three Presidents and the current President did drugs. They all turned out ok.

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« Reply #57 on: April 23, 2014, 11:52:09 PM »


At what age do you recommend children start doing drugs?

The last three Presidents and the current President did drugs. They all turned out ok.

Subjective statement.

Kudos to President Obama.
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« Reply #58 on: April 24, 2014, 12:49:49 AM »

Ronald Rodgers' resignation, though it will be little-noted in the media, alone justifies Obama's Presidency.

Agreed. These pardons will be something great, and Rodgers' resignation is icing on the cake.
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« Reply #59 on: April 24, 2014, 12:52:14 AM »

When/If pot becomes legalized nationwide, this should happen.
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« Reply #60 on: April 24, 2014, 01:02:36 AM »

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/justice-finally-comes-the-pardons-office

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« Reply #61 on: April 24, 2014, 01:27:51 AM »

Debate or attack ideas, not people. - Your friendly neighborhood spidermod.
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« Reply #62 on: April 24, 2014, 08:33:03 AM »
« Edited: April 24, 2014, 08:55:20 AM by Grumps »

Debate or attack ideas, not people. - Your friendly neighborhood spidermod.

Which of the above posts are you referring to?  Or do you mean we cannot attack the putz attorney that resigned?
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« Reply #63 on: April 24, 2014, 01:20:32 PM »

Debate or attack ideas, not people. - Your friendly neighborhood spidermod.

Which of the above posts are you referring to?  Or do you mean we cannot attack the putz attorney that resigned?

Some posts that were attacking other posters that have been deleted.
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« Reply #64 on: April 24, 2014, 06:02:30 PM »


That sounds promising, I'm glad they're doing it now.
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« Reply #65 on: April 24, 2014, 06:26:22 PM »


At what age do you recommend children start doing drugs?

Way to make a strawman, dude.

And as others have said, this really needs to happen. Doing drugs (and possibly risking personal safety) shouldn't be something that people have to spend the rest of their lives paying for, with both prison time and a criminal record. One of the most extreme cases would be this man, currently serving live in prison with no chance of parol for...possessing 13 sheets of LSD.

And distributing in cold blood one of the most dangerous drugs to others who could harm themselves using it.

I guess his sentence is making him think twice as to whether it was a good idea to put others in danger.

The lethal dose of LSD is far below the psychoactive dose to an extent even lower than for 100%-legal caffeine. We're not talking about cocaine, heroin, meth, or Quaaludes.

LSD is prosecutable by the measure of weight. The dose for prosecution can include inert substances such as paper or sugar that contain the LSD.

Just so you know. It's almost as if someone carrying cocaine in a handbag were charged with possession of the weight of the handbag and its contents (including such objects as lipstick, tissues, combs or brushes, ballpoint pens, etc.) had those added.

Save the draconian sentences for people involved with such monstrous drugs as cocaine, heroin, and meth.  Draconian sentences are rightly saved for draconian deeds.  

FTR: Tyler already had two prior felony convictions for drugs. More importantly, the mere 13 sheets of acid he was selling had over 13,000 hits on them. That's serious.

That said, a mandatory life sentence seems grossly inappropriate. Prison, yes, but nothing like what he got.
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