Time to drop Warren from DEM polling, insists she's not running

[IceSpear]

Warren won't run because she knows liberals don't vote for liberals. The establishment would never let a true liberal be the nominee.

Definitely. Which is why the last Democratic nominees were right-wing blue dogs John Kerry and Barack Obama.

Well to be fair, Kerry '04 wasn't Bush, and Obama was campaigning at Mr. Change. If Hillary gets the nomination in 2016 I can't think of any excuse for her supports who still claim to be liberals.

Because despite being a centrist, Hillary will advance liberalism more than electing a Republican would.

Ted Cruz is more liberal than Hilary

Please elaborate. This should be good.

Ted Cruz doesn't like NDAA. Clinton likes it. Thus Cruz is more liberal.

So in other words, you're saying Ted Cruz and Tom Coburn are more liberal than Elizabeth Warren and Tammy Baldwin. lol

[IceSpear]

Warren won't run because she knows liberals don't vote for liberals. The establishment would never let a true liberal be the nominee.

Definitely. Which is why the last Democratic nominees were right-wing blue dogs John Kerry and Barack Obama.

Well to be fair, Kerry '04 wasn't Bush, and Obama was campaigning at Mr. Change. If Hillary gets the nomination in 2016 I can't think of any excuse for her supports who still claim to be liberals.

Because despite being a centrist, Hillary will advance liberalism more than electing a Republican would.

Ted Cruz is more liberal than Hilary

Please elaborate. This should be good.

Ted Cruz doesn't like NDAA. Clinton likes it. Thus Cruz is more liberal.

So in other words, you're saying Ted Cruz and Tom Coburn are more liberal than Elizabeth Warren and Tammy Baldwin. lol

No because Warren is more liberal on issues than Cruz. Cruz, however, is more liberal on issues than Clinton.

You used solely the NDAA vote as "evidence" that Cruz was more liberal than Clinton. By that same single issue metric, Cruz and Coburn and more liberal than Warren and Baldwin.

Stop trolling.

[SWE]

Warren won't run because she knows liberals don't vote for liberals. The establishment would never let a true liberal be the nominee.

Definitely. Which is why the last Democratic nominees were right-wing blue dogs John Kerry and Barack Obama.

Well to be fair, Kerry '04 wasn't Bush, and Obama was campaigning at Mr. Change. If Hillary gets the nomination in 2016 I can't think of any excuse for her supports who still claim to be liberals.

Because despite being a centrist, Hillary will advance liberalism more than electing a Republican would.

Ted Cruz is more liberal than Hilary

Please elaborate. This should be good.

Ted Cruz doesn't like NDAA. Clinton likes it. Thus Cruz is more liberal.

So in other words, you're saying Ted Cruz and Tom Coburn are more liberal than Elizabeth Warren and Tammy Baldwin. lol

No because Warren is more liberal on issues than Cruz. Cruz, however, is more liberal on issues than Clinton.

You used solely the NDAA vote as "evidence" that Cruz was more liberal than Clinton. By that same single issue metric, Cruz and Coburn and more liberal than Warren and Baldwin.

Stop trolling.

Vonurn voted for NDAA, Baldwin voted no, and Cruz and Warren never had a chance to vote for it

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

Lol, never EVER remove someone from consideration in an open scenario.

Obama swore until he was blue in the face until like... 3 months before he announced... Clinton said in 2003 she absolutely was not running, but ... she actually got very close, same with Gore.

2012 with Christie... same deal.

I think at this point in the game you're in either in or you're out... unless you're a front-runner where you can be a little vague.

Warren is likely out, but I still think she's doing enough to support the mid-term campaign (much like Obama in 2006) and waiting until after the mid-terms... either she's able to say "I always said I wasn't running" or "I've reconsidered and realised" etc etc

[Potatoe]

Warren voted for NDAA. I checked the list like 5 days ago

http://ballotpedia.org/Elizabeth_Warren

[IceSpear]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Defense_Authorization_Act_for_Fiscal_Year_2014

[Mordecai]

Warren won't run because she knows liberals don't vote for liberals. The establishment would never let a true liberal be the nominee.

Definitely. Which is why the last Democratic nominees were right-wing blue dogs John Kerry and Barack Obama.

Well to be fair, Kerry '04 wasn't Bush, and Obama was campaigning at Mr. Change. If Hillary gets the nomination in 2016 I can't think of any excuse for her supports who still claim to be liberals.

Because despite being a centrist, Hillary will advance liberalism more than electing a Republican would.

She's certainly in the best position to preserve Obama's changes. I don't get why liberals would want to throw that away. This idea of Hillary not being liberal enough brings back memories of 2000.

[whanztastic]

Warren won't run because she knows liberals don't vote for liberals. The establishment would never let a true liberal be the nominee.

Definitely. Which is why the last Democratic nominees were right-wing blue dogs John Kerry and Barack Obama.

Well to be fair, Kerry '04 wasn't Bush, and Obama was campaigning at Mr. Change. If Hillary gets the nomination in 2016 I can't think of any excuse for her supports who still claim to be liberals.

Because despite being a centrist, Hillary will advance liberalism more than electing a Republican would.

She's certainly in the best position to preserve Obama's changes. I don't get why liberals would want to throw that away. This idea of Hillary not being liberal enough brings back memories of 2000.

Most liberals don't.