If Woodrow Wilson were alive today, which party would he be affiliated with?
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« on: April 21, 2014, 09:01:53 PM »

Discuss.

I, personally, think he wouldn't be a fan of either party.
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« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2014, 09:03:30 PM »

He would have been a Joe Lieberman Democrat.
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« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2014, 09:04:58 PM »

Depends what his ambitions are. Wilson may have been racist, but he wasn't an idiot. If he wanted to get back into politics, I think he'd recognize that racial segregation is a lost cause and just rejoin the Democrats, who he'd undoubtedly agree with on most other issues.
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« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2014, 09:06:42 PM »

He's certainly a Democrat, at least on domestic issues. He'd end up being one of those hawk Democrats, like Feinstein
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« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2014, 09:49:54 PM »

I know this post will go ignored like  many others I make, but I wish we'd bear in mind that Wilson was the [/i]least economically interventionist[/i] candidate in 1912. His 'New Freedom' platform of industrial regulation was pitched as a pro-market alternative to either Taft's record of trust-busting (more trusts broken up than under TR) or to the direct nationalizations of industry proposed under the Progressive Party's 'New Nationalism'.
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« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2014, 11:46:30 PM »

Depends what his views on abortion are.
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« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2014, 11:58:37 PM »

Again, Wilson is rightly read as the most economically liberal (in the European sense of the term) candidate in 1912. As President he broke up far fewer monopolies than Republican Taft (no President has busted as many trusts as Taft). He did not propose, as Theo Roosevelt did, whole-hog nationalization of businesses. His regulatory regime was relaxed, and often Congressionally-imposed. And business wanted the Federal Reserve. Why, then, does everybody assume he'd be on the left end of a contemporary spectrum?
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« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2014, 12:25:35 AM »

I voted Republican but of a fairly centrist on domestic issues neocon type (one has to remember that a decade ago, neocons advocated the expansion of Medicare and Social Security.)
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« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2014, 12:31:01 AM »

^ Nailed it. But Wilson would not even necessarily support something like Medicare. His progressivism was structural, not egalitarian. He was an authoritarian modernizer, not a welfare Statist.
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« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2014, 11:15:04 AM »

I know this post will go ignored like  many others I make, but I wish we'd bear in mind that Wilson was the [/i]least economically interventionist[/i] candidate in 1912. His 'New Freedom' platform of industrial regulation was pitched as a pro-market alternative to either Taft's record of trust-busting (more trusts broken up than under TR) or to the direct nationalizations of industry proposed under the Progressive Party's 'New Nationalism'.

New Freedom was pitched as a relatively pro-market approach to trust-busting.  The industrialists at this time generally supported protectionist policies so they went with Taft.  Labor supported free trade and tended to see Wilson's New Freedom and it's call for decentralized economic power and the break-up of monopolies as better than TR's proposals for tightly regulated monopolies. 

It's possible to see some anti-corporatist tea party populist types responding to some of Wilson's campaigning, but the tea party would find enough other reason to hate him.  He'd probably fit in better with the Democratic party.
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« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2014, 11:23:33 AM »

Democrat obviously, he was a great president. And there is a difference between being an interventionnist and being a bellicist like Georges Bush.
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« Reply #11 on: April 23, 2014, 06:57:46 AM »

He's certainly a Democrat, at least on domestic issues. He'd end up being one of those hawk Democrats, like Feinstein
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« Reply #12 on: April 23, 2014, 07:32:55 AM »
« Edited: April 23, 2014, 04:15:43 PM by Shotgun Socialism! »

^ Nailed it. But Wilson would not even necessarily support something like Medicare. His progressivism was structural, not egalitarian. He was an authoritarian modernizer, not a welfare Statist.

You could say the same thing about Teddy Roosevelt, William H. Taft, and yes dare I say it Franklin D. Roosevelt.  Really, I think it's safe to say that NONE of our presidents were very egalitarian, just saying.
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« Reply #13 on: May 05, 2014, 06:29:10 AM »

He'd be like a centrist Democrat or a neocon Republican.
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« Reply #14 on: May 07, 2014, 03:42:59 PM »

He'd fit in as a Mike Huckabee/Rick Santorum Republican.  Ultra-conservative on all issues, but when he moderates, he does so on economic matters.  (Whoever said this about Santorum, thank you.)
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« Reply #15 on: May 07, 2014, 08:32:20 PM »

He would have been a Joe Lieberman Democrat.
Something like this.
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« Reply #16 on: May 08, 2014, 12:41:56 PM »
« Edited: May 08, 2014, 06:57:29 PM by Night Man »

Well, he's even D-NJ and Lieberman is D-CT.

It would be a good idea for a timeline to have historic figure be modern politicians that were born in the 20th century and are politicians in the 21st.
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« Reply #17 on: May 08, 2014, 08:35:38 PM »

He'd fit in as a Mike Huckabee/Rick Santorum Republican.  Ultra-conservative on all issues, but when he moderates, he does so on economic matters.  (Whoever said this about Santorum, thank you.)
I tend to agree with this. There's a range he could fit into though with certain issues like abortion being a litmus test today, at least in some cases, to finding party identification when they didn't exist as issues in the early 1900's.
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« Reply #18 on: May 08, 2014, 09:13:22 PM »

He would have been a Joe Lieberman Democrat.
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« Reply #19 on: May 08, 2014, 10:36:24 PM »

His pathological hatred of Black people would have made him a staunch Republican.
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« Reply #20 on: May 09, 2014, 02:48:05 PM »

His pathological hatred of Black people would have made him a staunch Republican.

I guess this question is different between whether Woodrow Wilson was born in the 1850s and was 160 years old now or whether he was born in the 1950s and is the same age now as he was when he was president in the 1910s.
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« Reply #21 on: July 23, 2014, 10:48:43 PM »

His pathological hatred of Black people would have made him a staunch Republican.

Nice hack response.  He'd be a Democrat.  Period.  Being a racist doesn't even in the slightest bit prohibit someone from being in your party, pal.  Sorry.
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« Reply #22 on: July 23, 2014, 10:58:33 PM »

What does he think about gay marriage?
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« Reply #23 on: July 23, 2014, 11:12:41 PM »
« Edited: July 23, 2014, 11:15:45 PM by ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ »

Obviously he doesn't mesh well with today's liberal Democrats, but I think it's pretty clear that he'd be a Democrat. He was a huge proponent of the League of Nations, and so would be likely be a big UN supporter, not exactly a typical Republican position.  Paulites would hate him for establishing the fed.

He raised the top marginal income tax rate from 0% to 73%.
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« Reply #24 on: July 24, 2014, 04:30:25 PM »

His pathological hatred of Black people would have made him a staunch Republican.

Nice hack response.  He'd be a Democrat.  Period.  Being a racist doesn't even in the slightest bit prohibit someone from being in your party, pal.  Sorry.
This is correct,  there are plenty of racist Democrats, Mr. Pollo being a fantastic example.
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