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« on: April 23, 2014, 04:57:25 PM »

It is quite telling that none of the updaters have asked this, but are always making polls asking if the update should stay open.

Anyway, no is the obvious answer.
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« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2014, 04:58:57 PM »

No (Sane)
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« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2014, 04:59:34 PM »

Reminder that Bushie would literally be in jail right now if not for Update.
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« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2014, 05:01:32 PM »

It would be if he 100% followed the forum's advice, but he mostly has ignored everyone is just probably addicted to the dopamine hits from the attention.
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« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2014, 05:01:57 PM »

Reminder that Bushie would literally be in jail right now if not for Update.

Would that be such a bad thing, really?
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« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2014, 05:03:58 PM »

No way.
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« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2014, 05:07:19 PM »

Yes, we saved his relationship with Allison, kept him out of jail due to fraud and money laundering, have encouraged him to get his debt and weight under control.

Despite what the naysayers say, we all want what is best for Bushie. We want to see he and Jeffison succeed and be happy.
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« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2014, 05:33:19 PM »

Reminder that Bushie would literally be in jail right now if not for Update.

He would have a better diet and more exercise there.
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« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2014, 05:54:35 PM »

Reminder that Bushie would literally be in jail right now if not for Update.

How so?
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« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2014, 06:10:37 PM »

Yes, of course. Things tend to get ugly for him whenever it's closed.
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« Reply #10 on: April 23, 2014, 06:47:14 PM »

It certainly hurts his reputation. But judging by the quality of  advice his family gives him I don't think we're hurting him.

Surely a lot of us are now openly mallicoid t I doubt anyone started that way; it was his constant refusal to listen that did it. If there are some who are openly malicious then it's because o
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« Reply #11 on: April 23, 2014, 06:51:58 PM »

And of course, the answer is no.
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« Reply #12 on: April 23, 2014, 06:55:25 PM »

Reminder that Bushie would literally be in jail right now if not for Update.

Would that be such a bad thing, really?

...and with this we have proof that even if the die hard Update don't personally care about Bushie, the anti-Updaters obviously don't either.
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« Reply #13 on: April 23, 2014, 07:01:16 PM »


Don't take this the wrong way Inks, but you have the power to stop this. I hope you remember that.

(You won't though).
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« Reply #14 on: April 23, 2014, 07:04:18 PM »

Here's how I see it. I also welcome attempts to debunk this.

Update consists of Bushie providing updates on his life. This includes many foolish and just plain bad decisions and ways to go about things. The forum provides better advice. Bushie ignores most of it.

However even the few times Bushie does listen to us is a positive. Duke provided a few examples. It's also possible Bushie might subconsciously make a few better decisions on the basis of Update feedback or can bad ideas before he even posts about them.

Even where Bushie ignores the good advice, there is no negative. He makes the bad choice he would've made anyway and is no worse off for it than he would've been without Update.

So on balance it's a net positive even if a small one, and can not possibly be a net negative. To be a net negative would require people intentionally giving bad advice, and Bushie following it. That has never happened.

Update harms no one, and does provide a small benefit to someone, even if that benefit could be bigger.
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« Reply #15 on: April 23, 2014, 07:18:55 PM »

Yes... it where Bushie vents, the importance of which can not be understated.  I think Update's detractors confuse the people like me who really want to see happy chapters which those who feed on schadenfreude.
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« Reply #16 on: April 23, 2014, 07:20:02 PM »

Reminder that Bushie would literally be in jail right now if not for Update.

Would that be such a bad thing, really?

...and with this we have proof that even if the die hard Update don't personally care about Bushie, the anti-Updaters obviously don't either.

Sometimes hitting rock bottom is good for those with severe problems.


Don't take this the wrong way Inks, but you have the power to stop this. I hope you remember that.

(You won't though).

Sure, I have the tools to do so, but I see no rule that's been broken or reason that I should step in.  If Bushie wants to pour his life out onto the Internet, I don't see any reason that moderators should say, "No, you can't do this."

Here's how I see it. I also welcome attempts to debunk this.

Update consists of Bushie providing updates on his life. This includes many foolish and just plain bad decisions and ways to go about things. The forum provides better advice. Bushie ignores most of it.

However even the few times Bushie does listen to us is a positive. Duke provided a few examples. It's also possible Bushie might subconsciously make a few better decisions on the basis of Update feedback or can bad ideas before he even posts about them.

Even where Bushie ignores the good advice, there is no negative. He makes the bad choice he would've made anyway and is no worse off for it than he would've been without Update.

So on balance it's a net positive even if a small one, and can not possibly be a net negative. To be a net negative would require people intentionally giving bad advice, and Bushie following it. That has never happened.

Update harms no one, and does provide a small benefit to someone, even if that benefit could be bigger.

He's also listened to bad forum advice (e.g., getting a girlfriend when he cannot financially support one), and your hypothesis also ignores the mondale84-Facebook debacle.
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« Reply #17 on: April 23, 2014, 07:39:58 PM »

No. He is putting time and energy into it far better spent elsewhere (including, inter alia, some time of deep introspection, sort of like Christ going into the desert for 40 days), and arguably negatively "enables" him.
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« Reply #18 on: April 23, 2014, 08:46:27 PM »

Another thread that begs the question as to whether it's called "Update" or "The Update"….
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« Reply #19 on: April 23, 2014, 08:53:03 PM »

Another thread that begs the question as to whether it's called "Update" or "The Update"….

Either one should be considered acceptable.
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« Reply #20 on: April 23, 2014, 11:13:02 PM »

I can't believe you people still think you're helping.  Bullies can convince themselves of some pretty crazy sh**t I guess.
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« Reply #21 on: April 24, 2014, 06:04:50 AM »

No. He is putting time and energy into it far better spent elsewhere (including, inter alia, some time of deep introspection, sort of like Christ going into the desert for 40 days), and arguably negatively "enables" him.

Maybe he will have the time for introspection after the new call center job falls through.
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« Reply #22 on: April 24, 2014, 06:27:08 AM »

Well, I wouldn't say that it was a bad thing for him....until Mondalegate.
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« Reply #23 on: April 24, 2014, 06:55:57 AM »

No, obviously.
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« Reply #24 on: April 24, 2014, 11:06:32 PM »

Reminder that Bushie would literally be in jail right now if not for Update.

How so?


On-Company.....
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