Upsides/downsides of Klobuchar VP choice for Clinton

[henster]

Thoughts?

[MurrayBannerman]

I don't think an all woman ticket will fare well.

[Suburbia]

Upsides:
-Classic Midwesterner. Could help in IA, MN, WI, OH, PA, and some other Midwest states.
-Would be a historic two female ticket
-Well vetted and known in Democratic circles
-Legislative, legal experience
-Moderate
-Young to be Dem frontrunner in 2020 or 2024
-Would not overshadow Clinton in the fall. (Exactly what I love and would want in a running mate, don't show the No. 1 up)

Downsides:
-Another woman on the ticket?
-Somewhat unknown
-Won't Minnesota solidly go Democratic?
-Some view her as a "DLC" or DINO (Democrat in name only)

[henster]

I think Klobuchar would be more appealing/likable than Hillary with Indies & R women she also has an impressive record and would help in the Midwest if Walker is the nominee.

[Frodo]

I don't think an all woman ticket will fare well.

How do you know?  This tripe keeps getting repeated ad nauseum until it becomes conventional wisdom on this forum, but how do we really know for sure?  Are we just assuming that we as a society are too misogynistic to stomach an all-woman ticket?  Are there polls?  Are there studies? Does anyone have anything to substantiate any of this?     

 

[henster]

I don't think an all woman ticket will fare well.

How do you know?  This tripe keeps getting repeated ad nauseum until it becomes conventional wisdom on this forum, but how do we really know for sure?  Are we just assuming that we as a society are too misogynistic to stomach an all-woman ticket?  Are there polls?  Are there studies? Does anyone have anything to substantiate any of this?     

 

Exactly all female tickets have been extremely rare in the US so we really have no way of telling how one would fare nationally people are just making assumptions at this point. There's nothing saying that a ticket like that would fare poorly.

[Mister Mets]

Upside
- Baits Republicans into saying something stupid about women.
- Effective surrogate in crucial swing region.
- Qualified on paper.
- Background as prosecutor.
- As a Senator, she can be useful to Hillary, who has been mostly out of Washington for the last eight years. And she's more likely to be able to articulately discuss national issues.

Downside
- An all-women ticket could backfire.
- Minnesota is not a swing state.
- Doesn't add much demographically to a ticket with Hillary Clinton.
- Can be painted as very left-wing/ tied to the failures of former boss Mondale.
- Can reflect badly on Hillary.

[SWE]

How is Klobuchar "very left-wing"?

[Mister Mets]

How is Klobuchar "very left-wing"?

She started her political career as a legal advisor as a man who lost 49 states in the 1984 presidential election.

She's a standard Democrat largely unknown to the public, so the Republicans would also have an opportunity to define her.

[IceSpear]

I don't think an all woman ticket will fare well.

How do you know?  This tripe keeps getting repeated ad nauseum until it becomes conventional wisdom on this forum, but how do we really know for sure?  Are we just assuming that we as a society are too misogynistic to stomach an all-woman ticket?  Are there polls?  Are there studies? Does anyone have anything to substantiate any of this?     

I don't think a two-woman ticket would necessarily backfire after the glass ceiling is shattered, but right now...it would seem too, I guess, ambitious? Too wildly different from what the public is used to? I'm not sure how to describe it. But imagine all the talk that would've happened if Obama picked another African American as his running mate.

[pbrower2a]

I don't think an all woman ticket will fare well.

It would be a far-better ticket than Bush and Cheney -- that is beyond any question.

Female leaders have generally been very good.

[Mister Mets]

I guess the biggest downside of Klobuchar is that it means Clinton's not picking anyone else.

If Klobuchar is her running mate, it means the ticket won't include Michael Bennet, Mark Warner, Tim Kaine, Steve Bullock, John Hickenlooper, Charlie Crist, Anthony Foxx, Anthony G Brown, Sherrod Brown or Xavier Becerra.

[MurrayBannerman]

I don't think an all woman ticket will fare well.

It would be a far-better ticket than Bush and Cheney -- that is beyond any question.

Female leaders have generally been very good.

Call me when Bush-Cheney is on the ballot again.

[Cobbler]

Why is Klobuchar always portrayed as a good candidate on this forum? She's bland, and doesn't bring as much to the ticket as other potential candidates. I could never imagine her being a frontrunner for either POTUS or VPOTUS. There are many better candidates.

[whanztastic]

Why is Klobuchar always portrayed as a good candidate on this forum? She's bland, and doesn't bring as much to the ticket as other potential candidates. I could never imagine her being a frontrunner for either POTUS or VPOTUS. There are many better candidates.

I agree but there's still nothing wrong with an dual-female ticket. If it's Clinton-another woman I think it'd even have some strong advantages against the GOP.

[TomC]

The argument that two women would be too muh reminds me of the speculation from 1992 that two Southerners would be too much. But Clinton decided to play to his strengths rather than try to "balance" the ticket.

[henster]

Frankly I was impressed by her landslide re-election in 2012 winning 65+ of the vote. While MN is a blue state I can't think of any politician there in the past couple of decades winning by that margin especially considering how polarized the state is. Democrats & Republicans in the state seem to like her and she has broad appeal. From what I hear she's very likable as well which can't hurt being a politician.

[badgate]

Klobuchar wants to repeal parts of the ACA, guys. I don't think she's a DLCer, but it's ridiculous to call her far-left.

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How is Klobuchar "very left-wing"?

If your political scale is such that the senior Senator from Ohio is far to the left of people who are far to the left of the socialist party.