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Clarence Boddicker
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« on: April 26, 2014, 11:03:37 AM »

Let's say everything stays the same, except that the Iran hostage situation never happens. Can Carter beat Reagan despite stagflation and the primary challenge from Kennedy? I think Reagan still wins, but by a much narrower margin, similar to 1976.

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« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2014, 07:43:49 PM »

Reagan would likely do better in the South than your original map, because I think it is important to remember that the region was already trending towards the Republicans before Carter came on the scene. I think Reagan would pickup Michigan, because if I am not mistaken, that is considered the tipping point state for Reagan's victories, so he would probably win it even without the Iranian hostage crisis. Nevertheless, for the most part, I think your map was about right in the North. I don't think that Carter would have a path to victory, because the economy tends to be a major issue in presidential elections, and there might have been even more focus on that issue without a major foreign event, to the detriment of Carter.

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« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2014, 09:34:03 AM »

Reagan would win by margin of 51-49.

What the Shah of Iran still be ousted in coup ?
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« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2014, 09:36:12 AM »

Didn't realise that Third Parties were wiped out.
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« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2014, 07:20:35 PM »

Well, it was the Iranian Hostage Crisis that allowed Carter to surge in late '79 and beat Kennedy in the primary. Without it, Kennedy would likely win and probably choose Lloyd Bentsen of Texas as his running mate. Reagan still wins in the end.
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« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2014, 10:42:58 AM »

Reagan would still have Bush 41 as VP.

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