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« Reply #1200 on: July 09, 2014, 08:06:56 PM »

Again, this is Bushie all over. He loves announcing his 'plans'... but, where is the follow through?

Same thing with weight, if he was serious - he'd throw EVERYTHING out of his pantry and fridge, everything. And start fresh, if his parents genuinely supported him, they should be helping by cooking healthier foods to not give him an excuse to get out of it "Well, she cooked it, so I can't be rude" or "it's a holiday". Again, note he plans to go shopping for healthier food, buy weights, buy walking clothes... you don't need specialist equipment to go for a walk. Comfortable shoes, consideration for the weather and some water... that's it.

And do not get me started on 'diet soda' - the sweeteners in those things are TERRIBLE for you and they cause virtually the same reactions in the body as sugar (including diabetes).



Indeed.  Again:

I do plan to go to Walmart tomorrow night and get some healthier food.

Whatever happened to that, Bushie?


I got some fruits and vegetables, as well as some frozen dinners.
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« Reply #1201 on: July 09, 2014, 08:07:23 PM »

I'm genuinely starting to wonder whether it mightn't be time for Bushie to start considering bariatric surgery. This is that kind of critical.
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« Reply #1202 on: July 09, 2014, 08:12:20 PM »

Again, this is Bushie all over. He loves announcing his 'plans'... but, where is the follow through?

Same thing with weight, if he was serious - he'd throw EVERYTHING out of his pantry and fridge, everything. And start fresh, if his parents genuinely supported him, they should be helping by cooking healthier foods to not give him an excuse to get out of it "Well, she cooked it, so I can't be rude" or "it's a holiday". Again, note he plans to go shopping for healthier food, buy weights, buy walking clothes... you don't need specialist equipment to go for a walk. Comfortable shoes, consideration for the weather and some water... that's it.

And do not get me started on 'diet soda' - the sweeteners in those things are TERRIBLE for you and they cause virtually the same reactions in the body as sugar (including diabetes).



Indeed.  Again:

I do plan to go to Walmart tomorrow night and get some healthier food.

Whatever happened to that, Bushie?


I got some fruits and vegetables, as well as some frozen dinners.

Do you ever eat a dinner at home that isn't either takeout or heating up frozen dinners?

In 2011, you said:

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« Reply #1203 on: July 09, 2014, 08:19:00 PM »

I appreciate all the concern for my weight, but I'm slowly working at it.  You all think it is the easiest change ever to go from a mindset of eating whatever I want to eating healthy.  It's a harder change than what you all realize.  Slowly, I am getting into that mindset.  It's not an overnight thing, just like quitting smoking or quitting drinking are generally not overnight.  I can't just flip a switch.  I am working at it, though.

As far as the pop, I refuse to give it up entirely.  I am mixing in a glass of water now and then, yes, and I am trying to increase my daily water intake but I am not going to give up pop entirely.  I have to have some sweet drink and sweetened tea (sweetened with Splenda) or juice doesn't always cut it.  They are good, but they don't always cut it for me.  I am switching to diet pop because it's void of calories.  Today, it has helped me stay around 2,300 calories on the day, which for a guy my size is okay.

As far as work goes, there is no reason to worry.  It took a little bit for the job to grow on me, but I am not second guessing my decision to take the job.  Not everybody is going to love everything about their job from the moment they walk in the doors.  They just learn to accept and adapt to the things they don't like and look forward to what they do like.  There is nothing else to read into the job than what I gave you, so please do not read anymore into it than what I posted.
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« Reply #1204 on: July 09, 2014, 08:20:08 PM »

Again, this is Bushie all over. He loves announcing his 'plans'... but, where is the follow through?

Same thing with weight, if he was serious - he'd throw EVERYTHING out of his pantry and fridge, everything. And start fresh, if his parents genuinely supported him, they should be helping by cooking healthier foods to not give him an excuse to get out of it "Well, she cooked it, so I can't be rude" or "it's a holiday". Again, note he plans to go shopping for healthier food, buy weights, buy walking clothes... you don't need specialist equipment to go for a walk. Comfortable shoes, consideration for the weather and some water... that's it.

And do not get me started on 'diet soda' - the sweeteners in those things are TERRIBLE for you and they cause virtually the same reactions in the body as sugar (including diabetes).



Indeed.  Again:

I do plan to go to Walmart tomorrow night and get some healthier food.

Whatever happened to that, Bushie?


I got some fruits and vegetables, as well as some frozen dinners.

Do you ever eat a dinner at home that isn't either takeout or heating up frozen dinners?

In 2011, you said:

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So do you ever cook anything for yourself these days, or is it just heating up frozen dinners?


I'll be honest, I haven't used my oven or stove yet in my new apartment, but I plan to eventually.
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« Reply #1205 on: July 09, 2014, 08:22:36 PM »

I appreciate all the concern for my weight, but I'm slowly working at it.  You all think it is the easiest change ever to go from a mindset of eating whatever I want to eating healthy.  It's a harder change than what you all realize.  Slowly, I am getting into that mindset.  It's not an overnight thing, just like quitting smoking or quitting drinking are generally not overnight.  I can't just flip a switch.  I am working at it, though.

As far as the pop, I refuse to give it up entirely.  I am mixing in a glass of water now and then, yes, and I am trying to increase my daily water intake but I am not going to give up pop entirely.  I have to have some sweet drink and sweetened tea (sweetened with Splenda) or juice doesn't always cut it.  They are good, but they don't always cut it for me.  I am switching to diet pop because it's void of calories.  Today, it has helped me stay around 2,300 calories on the day, which for a guy my size is okay.

As far as work goes, there is no reason to worry.  It took a little bit for the job to grow on me, but I am not second guessing my decision to take the job.  Not everybody is going to love everything about their job from the moment they walk in the doors.  They just learn to accept and adapt to the things they don't like and look forward to what they do like.  There is nothing else to read into the job than what I gave you, so please do not read anymore into it than what I posted.

You've been saying this for years, Jeffie. Look at you now. You're in horrible shape, and on the verge of major medical issues.  It is an overnight thing, you're just not willing to take the step. I quit smoking cold turkey, and my diet was cold turkey.

I really hope you read into everything people have said, and take offense to it all.. maybe that will wake you up. When you get serious, hit me up and I'll send you some easy recipes that you could use.
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« Reply #1206 on: July 09, 2014, 08:27:07 PM »

You all think it is the easiest change ever to go from a mindset of eating whatever I want to eating healthy.

That has nothing to do with your inability to walk 7 days a week, which is part of being a human, and can be turned on with the flip of a switch.
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« Reply #1207 on: July 09, 2014, 08:27:09 PM »

I'll be honest, I haven't used my oven or stove yet in my new apartment, but I plan to eventually.

Wow, not even for something as simple as scrambled eggs?

Bushie, just go to the grocery store, and buy whatever food you need to cook one meal for yourself.  Doesn't matter how simple it is.  But something that involves using your oven or stove.  Then cook it for dinner tomorrow night.

You said that you know how to cook at least a few things.  (Spaghetti is your "specialty".)  So just cook one meal for yourself tomorrow night.  What is stopping you from doing that?  You "plan to do it eventually"?  How can we take that seriously if you don't take the first step?
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« Reply #1208 on: July 09, 2014, 08:29:44 PM »

He probably needs to buy some pans first and maybe convince his parents to let him own knives.
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« Reply #1209 on: July 09, 2014, 08:30:18 PM »

You're clearly not working at it... you've gained 50lbs.

I gained a lot weight during a period of ... darkness in my life. But lost all of it and then some. How? I didn't make excuses, I just made a decision and knew the consequences of not taking action. I do understand it's not easy, but getting dejected so easily suggests you need to seriously get your act together. You're not the only person who has needed to lose weight. There's nothing special about your mindset...

Just start walking... 20 mins, 30 mins, 45 mins, build up to an hour... it's all about FOLLOWING THROUGH.

Cut the crap and just do it.

 
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« Reply #1210 on: July 09, 2014, 08:31:05 PM »

Bushie's junk food addiction is serious business. There's no difference between his behavior and that of a heroin user. The lying. The enabling family. The health problems. The inability to hold a job. He's not in control of himself. He's expressed a desire to change many times, but he is not capable. It's time people recognize the reality of the situation. Feeding kids fast food and soda should be just as socially unacceptable as giving them cigarettes and liquor.
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« Reply #1211 on: July 09, 2014, 08:53:29 PM »

Is it bad that I love having junk food when I read Update?
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« Reply #1212 on: July 09, 2014, 09:01:16 PM »

You're clearly not working at it... you've gained 50lbs.

I gained a lot weight during a period of ... darkness in my life. But lost all of it and then some. How? I didn't make excuses, I just made a decision and knew the consequences of not taking action. I do understand it's not easy, but getting dejected so easily suggests you need to seriously get your act together. You're not the only person who has needed to lose weight. There's nothing special about your mindset...

Just start walking... 20 mins, 30 mins, 45 mins, build up to an hour... it's all about FOLLOWING THROUGH.

Cut the crap and just do it.

 

I have gained a lot of weight over the past five years, heck I've gained a lot of weight over the past 13 years.  I was a normal weight in my high school senior picture.  Do you think I'm proud of where I'm at?  Not at all.  I can't change it all by morning, I have to work at it, slowly but surely.  That's what I intend to do.  I know there is absolutely nothing I can say to change your minds tonight, and probably you guys will NEVER be happy no matter if I lose 100 lbs.  You'll still find something to gripe at.  That said, just let me do it.  It will take time, just let me do it.  Don't keep pounding me in the head multiple times every single night.  Hold me accountable, yes, but don't keep beating me over the head in post after post after post.
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« Reply #1213 on: July 09, 2014, 09:05:03 PM »

Bushie's junk food addiction is serious business. There's no difference between his behavior and that of a heroin user. The lying. The enabling family. The health problems. The inability to hold a job. He's not in control of himself. He's expressed a desire to change many times, but he is not capable. It's time people recognize the reality of the situation. Feeding kids fast food and soda should be just as socially unacceptable as giving them cigarettes and liquor.

Now you're acting like I'm helpless.  That's clearly not the case.  No one controls the strings of my life except me.  No one else is to blame.  My parents "coddling me" is not to blame so keep them out of it.  I have the best friends on Facebook that anyone could ever ask for, so keep them out of it.  My life is my responsibility and I am fully capable of handling myself well.
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« Reply #1214 on: July 09, 2014, 09:05:37 PM »

Idk, I think I'd be pretty stoked if you lost 100 pounds.

But anyway, what are the things about this new job in particular that are rubbing you the wrong way?
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« Reply #1215 on: July 09, 2014, 09:05:54 PM »

Bushie's junk food addiction is serious business. There's no difference between his behavior and that of a heroin user. The lying. The enabling family. The health problems. The inability to hold a job. He's not in control of himself. He's expressed a desire to change many times, but he is not capable. It's time people recognize the reality of the situation. Feeding kids fast food and soda should be just as socially unacceptable as giving them cigarettes and liquor.

Now you're acting like I'm helpless.  That's clearly not the case.  No one controls the strings of my life except me.  No one else is to blame.  My parents "coddling me" is not to blame so keep them out of it.  I have the best friends on Facebook that anyone could ever ask for, so keep them out of it.  My life is my responsibility and I am fully capable of handling myself well.

That's manifestly untrue.
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« Reply #1216 on: July 09, 2014, 09:06:23 PM »

I can't change it all by morning, I have to work at it, slowly but surely.  That's what I intend to do.  I know there is absolutely nothing I can say to change your minds tonight, and probably you guys will NEVER be happy no matter if I lose 100 lbs.  You'll still find something to gripe at.  That said, just let me do it.  It will take time, just let me do it.  Don't keep pounding me in the head multiple times every single night.  Hold me accountable, yes, but don't keep beating me over the head in post after post after post.

We are holding you accountable.  You said you were doing things in previous weeks, and didn't follow through, so now we're calling you out on it.

If you have a plan to improve your diet, what is it?  I suggested that you simply buy what you need to make one meal at home tomorrow night.  That seems simple enough.  Will you do that?  If not, what is your plan?
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« Reply #1217 on: July 09, 2014, 09:08:43 PM »

You're clearly not working at it... you've gained 50lbs.

I gained a lot weight during a period of ... darkness in my life. But lost all of it and then some. How? I didn't make excuses, I just made a decision and knew the consequences of not taking action. I do understand it's not easy, but getting dejected so easily suggests you need to seriously get your act together. You're not the only person who has needed to lose weight. There's nothing special about your mindset...

Just start walking... 20 mins, 30 mins, 45 mins, build up to an hour... it's all about FOLLOWING THROUGH.

Cut the crap and just do it.

 

I have gained a lot of weight over the past five years, heck I've gained a lot of weight over the past 13 years.  I was a normal weight in my high school senior picture.  Do you think I'm proud of where I'm at?  Not at all.  I can't change it all by morning, I have to work at it, slowly but surely.  That's what I intend to do.  I know there is absolutely nothing I can say to change your minds tonight, and probably you guys will NEVER be happy no matter if I lose 100 lbs.  You'll still find something to gripe at.  That said, just let me do it.  It will take time, just let me do it.  Don't keep pounding me in the head multiple times every single night.  Hold me accountable, yes, but don't keep beating me over the head in post after post after post.

Don't give me that...
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« Reply #1218 on: July 09, 2014, 09:09:20 PM »

Idk, I think I'd be pretty stoked if you lost 100 pounds.

But anyway, what are the things about this new job in particular that are rubbing you the wrong way?

Nothing anymore, but initially it was the fact that this is an outbound position, not inbound and that there will be upselling in my position.  I knew about the upselling part, but I don't remember hearing outbound in the interview last week.  Like I said, though, I am not upset about those things anymore, now I am actually embracing them.
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« Reply #1219 on: July 09, 2014, 09:13:07 PM »

Idk, I think I'd be pretty stoked if you lost 100 pounds.

But anyway, what are the things about this new job in particular that are rubbing you the wrong way?

Nothing anymore, but initially it was the fact that this is an outbound position, not inbound and that there will be upselling in my position.  I knew about the upselling part, but I don't remember hearing outbound in the interview last week.  Like I said, though, I am not upset about those things anymore, now I am actually embracing them.

Cold calls?
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« Reply #1220 on: July 09, 2014, 09:22:24 PM »

That's the kind of thing you should've been aware of going in. Oh well.

You guys need to lay off Bushie with the weight. He clearly has an addiction, and berating him isn't going to make things any better. He needs to hit 'rock bottom' to get better.
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« Reply #1221 on: July 09, 2014, 09:25:02 PM »

Idk, I think I'd be pretty stoked if you lost 100 pounds.

But anyway, what are the things about this new job in particular that are rubbing you the wrong way?

Nothing anymore, but initially it was the fact that this is an outbound position, not inbound and that there will be upselling in my position.  I knew about the upselling part, but I don't remember hearing outbound in the interview last week.  Like I said, though, I am not upset about those things anymore, now I am actually embracing them.

Cold calls?

Not exactly,  they'll be business customers that already have AT&T products and services.
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« Reply #1222 on: July 09, 2014, 09:29:54 PM »

I appreciate all the concern for my weight, but I'm slowly working at it.  You all think it is the easiest change ever to go from a mindset of eating whatever I want to eating healthy.  It's a harder change than what you all realize.  Slowly, I am getting into that mindset.  It's not an overnight thing, just like quitting smoking or quitting drinking are generally not overnight.  I can't just flip a switch.  I am working at it, though.

As far as the pop, I refuse to give it up entirely.  I am mixing in a glass of water now and then, yes, and I am trying to increase my daily water intake but I am not going to give up pop entirely.  I have to have some sweet drink and sweetened tea (sweetened with Splenda) or juice doesn't always cut it.  They are good, but they don't always cut it for me.  I am switching to diet pop because it's void of calories.  Today, it has helped me stay around 2,300 calories on the day, which for a guy my size is okay.

As far as work goes, there is no reason to worry.  It took a little bit for the job to grow on me, but I am not second guessing my decision to take the job.  Not everybody is going to love everything about their job from the moment they walk in the doors.  They just learn to accept and adapt to the things they don't like and look forward to what they do like.  There is nothing else to read into the job than what I gave you, so please do not read anymore into it than what I posted.

Let me start by saying that I think it's actually OK if you aren't continuing to look for other work at the moment. You've landed a position, and now it's time to make the best of it. The key is follow-through. Your body is such a wreck that, if your history tells us anything, you'll be taking sick days within weeks because of lethargy and grade-9 headaches or whatever other made-up jargon you attempt to label your overall lack of motivation. And before long, failure in the position will be someone else's fault. Jeff's never to blame ... someone else always is.

At least, that's what your history tells us. You have an opportunity to make this work, and I'd encourage you to do all you can to overcome your usual habits that yield the same results -- dissatisfaction, dismissal and a meandering search to land in the exact same spot.

As far as your weight: you are not slowly working on it. You're not. Period. Don't lie to us, and more importantly, don't lie to yourself. You've gained ... what? ... 20 pounds in recent months? You're a 290 pound land monster and refuse to overcome your baser instincts and the least common denominators.

To be totally fair to you, your economic situation doesn't afford you EASY opportunities to do otherwise. McDonald's is cheap, and the poorest in this country are the fattest and unhealthiest ... a sharp contrast to the rich vs. poor health situation of a century ago.

Philosophy aside, you've got to stop lying to yourself, and you should stop seeking comfort in the arms of your enabling friends and family who cheer on your every greasy bite. If I ballooned up to 290 pounds, my dad would rake me over the coals for being a lard-ass who wasn't taking care of myself and risked hurting my own body and the feelings of those closest to me ... because he cares. Yes, ultimately it would be my responsibility, but those who care shouldn't ignore your very serious problems. Your enablers ply you with more double hamburgers and KFC Double Downs, as if the chub that indicates health on an infant is somehow becoming on a 32-year-old man.

Wake up. Stop fooling yourself. Get help. REAL help -- a doctor who cares, not a church potluck. Realize that some of us DO care and are trying to tell you that YOU ARE KILLING YOURSELF.

Read that: YOU. ARE. KILLING. YOURSELF. The only thing you're slowly working at is suicide.

You know I'm one of those that genuinely cares, Jeffrey Smiley  I care enough to be blunt with you ... it's what you need.
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« Reply #1223 on: July 09, 2014, 09:44:22 PM »

You guys need to lay off Bushie with the weight. He clearly has an addiction, and berating him isn't going to make things any better. He needs to hit 'rock bottom' to get better.

No, I'm pretty sure this is near his last chance to turn it around. He can't get any bigger or stay on this level for much more as he ages.

At current rate, he's going to lose his ability to walk before his 40th birthday
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« Reply #1224 on: July 09, 2014, 10:04:51 PM »

Bushie has been working at his weight for 5 years now since Update started, and he's gained 50 pounds. He gives us the same spiel.

But we need to lay off of him. He has an addiction and he will never lose weight, as I said years ago. His culture encourages gluttony and unhealthy habits, his parents cook unhealthy food, he knows nothing about cooking and isn't interested in learning, and unfortunately, his fiancee is cut from the same cloth, so nothing will change.

So drop it. He needs to hit rock bottom before he changes, and that will come in either a stroke/heart attack or the death of his parents and the end of his gravy train. So far, yes, he is helpless, as helpless as a 32 year old man can be.
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