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« on: May 10, 2014, 02:59:27 PM »

Just a fun little game I thought of.  How do you think each state would vote on a referendum...

...to ban abortion after the first trimester?
...to declare a fertilized human egg to be a legal person (MS Personhood Amendment)?
...to legalize gay marriage?
...to enact Manchin-Toomey style requirements on background checks for gunowners?
...to ban assault weapons?
...to raise the state minimum wage to $10.10? (Obviously higher for a state with that requirement, but only reasonably so)
...to legalize recreational marijuana?
...to legalize medical marijuana?
...to enact voter ID?

There are obviously a lot more I can think of, but those would probably gain the most national attention and activists on both sides.

For uniform purposes, please color a state green to indicate a majority 'yes' vote and red to indicate a majority 'no' vote, which you can assume would be the only two options to vote for on each ballot referendum.  Shades are essential, of course.

I'll post some maps later on.
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« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2014, 03:32:41 PM »

...to ban abortion after the first trimester:


...to declare a fertilized human egg to be a legal person (MS Personhood Amendment):


...to legalize gay marriage:


...to raise the minimum wage:


(This one's probably overconfident.)
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« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2014, 04:02:24 PM »

Here is how Arkansas would vote

...to ban abortion after the first trimester? 50-50 against
...to declare a fertilized human egg to be a legal person (MS Personhood Amendment)?  60-40 against

...to legalize gay marriage?  66-34 against
...to enact Manchin-Toomey style requirements on background checks for gunowners?  59-41 for
...to ban assault weapons?  56-44 against

...to raise the state minimum wage to $10.10? (Obviously higher for a state with that requirement, but only reasonably so)  54-46 for
...to legalize recreational marijuana?  70-30 against
...to legalize medical marijuana?  51-49 for
...to enact voter ID?  63-37 for
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« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2014, 05:10:29 PM »

...to ban abortion after the first trimester:


...to declare a fertilized human egg to be a legal person (MS Personhood Amendment):


...to legalize gay marriage:


...to raise the minimum wage:


(This one's probably overconfident.)

I agree with almost all of these.  My only points of disagreement:

Abortion

Alaska would vote no- it is not particularly SoCon
Montana would probably vote no
Georgia would vote yes prior to 2020

Personhood

Would also pass in AR, KY, WV and maybe TN

Gay Marriage

Florida would surely be more supportive than Ohio
Unsure about AZ and AK

Minimum Wage

The energy boom states with labor shortages would vote no.  In order of highest confidence: OK, AK, ND, WY, TX

UT would probably pass it due to Mormon teachings about the poor, but I'm not at all certain.


 
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« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2014, 06:40:12 PM »

I think all of these need to be skewed somewhat to the right (more in favor of "conservative" initiatives and less in favor of "liberal" ones) when you factor in voter turnout.
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« Reply #5 on: May 10, 2014, 07:44:19 PM »

If personhood couldn't even pass in Mississippi I don't think it can pass anywhere in the US.
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« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2014, 09:48:49 PM »

Ballot initiatives to raise the minimum wage would undoubtedly fail in places like the Deep South and maybe even the Midwest due to excessive efforts on the part of conservative groups (i.e., the Koch brothers). 
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« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2014, 10:17:48 PM »

If personhood couldn't even pass in Mississippi I don't think it can pass anywhere in the US.

I think it could pass in Utah, depending on how the campaign went. Possibly in a state with a low black % like West Virginia.
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« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2014, 11:41:32 PM »

Ballot initiatives to raise the minimum wage would undoubtedly fail in places like the Deep South and maybe even the Midwest due to excessive efforts on the part of conservative groups (i.e., the Koch brothers). 

I don't think there has ever been an example of a failed minimum wage increase. People are always in favor of getting a raise.
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« Reply #9 on: May 11, 2014, 08:47:53 AM »

I don't think there has ever been an example of a failed minimum wage increase. People are always in favor of getting a raise.

I thought the same, but that's not correct. This is every ballot initiative related to the minimum wage:

Washington (1988): 77-23 Yes

California (1996): 61-39 Yes
Missouri (1996): 29-71 No
Montana (1996): 44-56 No
Oregon (1996): 57-43 Yes

Washington (1998): 66-34 Yes

Oregon (2002): 51-49 Yes

Florida (2004): 71-29 Yes
Nevada (2004): 68-32 Yes

Arizona (2006): 65-35 Yes
Colorado (2006): 53-47 Yes
Missouri (2006): 76-24 Yes
Montana (2006): 73-27 Yes
Nevada (2006): 69-31 Yes
Ohio (2006): 57-43 Yes

New Jersey (2013): 61-39 Yes

I don't how to make sense of those numbers. Missouri and Montana in 1996 are the only two instances where minimum wage increases have failed at the ballot box. (I can't reconcile a 29-71 defeat for the minimum wage in Missouri at the same time President Clinton won 48-41.) However, in 2006, both states approved an increase by huge margins. On the other hand, the increases in Colorado and Ohio were much narrower than other states that year.
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« Reply #10 on: May 11, 2014, 12:29:22 PM »

Was the Missouri referendum a $20 minimum wage or something equally ridiculous in 1996 dollars?
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« Reply #11 on: May 11, 2014, 01:46:33 PM »

Not quite, perhaps it was the annual increase people were worried about: http://ballotpedia.org/Missouri_Minimum_Wage,_Proposition_A_%281996%29
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« Reply #12 on: May 11, 2014, 02:33:50 PM »

It's hard to have sympathy for the working poor in the mid-90s when unemployment was sub-4 percent and there were plenty of entry-level technology jobs that didn't require any post-high school education.
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« Reply #13 on: May 12, 2014, 09:18:27 PM »

It's hard to have sympathy for the working poor in the mid-90s when unemployment was sub-4 percent and there were plenty of entry-level technology jobs that didn't require any post-high school education.

I was alive in 1996. It wasn't like that. There were NO jobs around here in 1996. ZERO.

On the other hand, the mid-1990s to mid-2000s was the era when everyone thought it was "cool" to vote the same way their boss did. That might have more to do with it.
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« Reply #14 on: May 12, 2014, 09:21:23 PM »

The Missouri referendum from 1996 has a particularly interesting clause that would "provide for severability of any provision of application of the measure held invalid."

Why would part of a minimum wage law be ruled invalid?
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« Reply #15 on: May 13, 2014, 01:14:43 PM »

The Missouri referendum from 1996 has a particularly interesting clause that would "provide for severability of any provision of application of the measure held invalid."

Why would part of a minimum wage law be ruled invalid?
It is standard to include such language.

A challenger could argue that the bill would not have passed, except as a total package.

A state minimum wage bill arguably interferes with interstate commerce, which only Congress has authority to regulate.  There could be an issue whether a municipality could be granted the right to set a different minimum wage.  There could be a question about the manner in which a minimum wage is automatically raised.
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« Reply #16 on: May 15, 2014, 09:02:02 PM »

Don't they pluralize it as "referenda" where you live?  Anyway, for Pennsylvania--which doesn't really need to come up with a plural form since binding referenda aren't a big thing here--I'd guess the following results would materialize:

...to ban abortion after the first trimester?
...to declare a fertilized human egg to be a legal person (MS Personhood Amendment)?
...to legalize gay marriage?
...to enact Manchin-Toomey style requirements on background checks for gunowners?
...to ban assault weapons?
...to raise the state minimum wage to $10.10? (Obviously higher for a state with that requirement, but only reasonably so)
...to legalize recreational marijuana?
...to legalize medical marijuana?
...to enact voter ID?

yes.

no.

no.

hell no.

maybe.

no.

no, unfortunately.

who cares?  Obamacare's gonna solve all our medical problems, right?

definitely.
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« Reply #17 on: May 25, 2014, 09:10:30 PM »

Gay marriage



Legalize marijuana recreationally



Ban abortion after trimester 1



Raising the FEDERAL minimum wage

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« Reply #18 on: May 26, 2014, 11:07:26 AM »

Is there ANY state that would approve a federal "right-to-work" law?
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« Reply #19 on: March 18, 2020, 12:47:26 PM »

...to ban abortion after the first trimester:


...to declare a fertilized human egg to be a legal person (MS Personhood Amendment):


...to legalize gay marriage:


...to raise the minimum wage:


(This one's probably overconfident.)

Missouri would vote against banning abortion after the first trimester?
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« Reply #20 on: March 18, 2020, 01:03:20 PM »

Is there ANY state that would approve a federal "right-to-work" law?



Could see Indiana going either way tbh
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« Reply #21 on: March 18, 2020, 01:05:38 PM »

Is there ANY state that would approve a federal "right-to-work" law?



Could see Indiana going either way tbh

After what happened in MO, KY won't approve it. WV, MT, and AK definitely won't.
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« Reply #22 on: March 18, 2020, 01:18:23 PM »

Also, updated gay marriage map?

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« Reply #23 on: March 18, 2020, 01:20:41 PM »

Is there ANY state that would approve a federal "right-to-work" law?



Could see Indiana going either way tbh

After what happened in MO, KY won't approve it. WV, MT, and AK definitely won't.

KY is several points more Republican than MO, so it probably would tbh. WV same thing goes, especially considering how few unions there actually are there today. AK is pretty rural and also similarly has no special union character, and MT I could also see going either way, I honestly didn't really consider some of the copper mines.
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« Reply #24 on: March 18, 2020, 01:21:43 PM »

It lost in Missouri with 70%.
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