Jeb Bush: "Traditional marriage" can fight poverty better than government aid

[JRP1994]

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/bush-ryan-focus-poverty-while-courting-donors

"Bush, the son of one president and brother of another, called for more welcoming immigration policies, while offering his own poverty prescription: "A loving family taking care of their children in a traditional marriage will create the chance to break out of poverty far better, far better than any of the government programs that we can create."

[I Will Not Be Wrong]

There goes his moderate support, up goes the conservative support.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

Yeah, Jeb wants to get the nomination very badly since he's saying now such a stupid s**t.

[Never]

I generally agree with Jeb Bush on this one. He is right that a loving family in a traditional marriage is better at keeping people out of poverty than government. It is seen that much of the increase in child poverty has to do with the decline of married couples. I doubt that many people seriously believe that government can actually decrease poverty. All in all, this seems like a sensible statement from Jeb. The wording of Bush's statement does slight same-sex couples with kids, who I am sure love their children and probably keep them out of poverty like heterosexual couples, but I highly doubt that this demographic would vote for a Republican under any circumstances, and this surely isn't the group that Bush was aiming to impress with his statement.

[Simfan34]

It's true though- when compared to single motherhood.

[pbrower2a]

A few decades ago, "traditional" marriage was arranged marriage.  

[DrScholl]

Looks like another supposed guaranteed landslide Republican is flushed down the toilet. We'll still hear about how he's so unbeatable, though.

[Lief 🗽]

If we could just force unhappy people to stay married and shame gay people and single mothers even harder, we could solve poverty forever guys.

[Mordecai]

A few decades ago, "traditional" marriage was arranged marriage.  

Which ironically makes him right, because those arranged marriages were all about controlling wealth and inheritance within families.

[SUSAN CRUSHBONE]

maybe republicans should stop trying to destroy it then.

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/bush-ryan-focus-poverty-while-courting-donors

"Bush, the son of one president and brother of another, called for more welcoming immigration policies, while offering his own poverty prescription: "A loving family taking care of their children in a traditional marriage will create the chance to break out of poverty far better, far better than any of the government programs that we can create."

I guess he felt that saying, "Women should be barefoot, pregnant and in the kitchen" didn't quite have that 21st Century ring to it, so he needed to mix up the verbiage a little.

[Gustaf]

He's not selling out his moderate support, this is just a soundbite for the conservatives (and not necessarily totally untrue either). I wouldn't interpret it as saying we should change any policy.

[pbrower2a]

It's true though- when compared to single motherhood.

Single-motherhood, especially as the result of an out-of-wedlock birth, is usually a disaster for children. Just think of the conflicts of interests a single mother endures. They often alternate between neglect and smothering, which makes things confusing for a child.  If they seek men as companions they often find themselves with men with severe flaws.

Divorcees may have had a bad marriage, but they may have begun with good habits. Widows can often remarry.

Having a child out of wedlock is a big blunder in life. That is a good excuse for objective sex and family education in schools.

I'm not going to discuss gay or lesbian couples -- but they can succeed as parents.

[Lief 🗽]

Single-motherhood is a disaster for children in the United States, because we have a pathetic welfare state. In civilized countries, obviously you're still going to generally be better off in a two-parent family, but it doesn't doom you to poverty like it does here.



http://www.vox.com/2014/4/14/5613658/chart-welfare-can-save-kids-from-poverty

[ElectionsGuy]

This guy is a carbon copy of Dubya. Same marriage policy, same immigration policy, same education policies...

[Del Tachi]

This guy is a carbon copy of Dubya. Same marriage policy, same immigration policy, same education policies...

Which is why we should all enthusiastically support him!


But seriously, Jeb's hit the nail on the head.

[bedstuy]

Conservative Republican: Gay marriage is destroying America because it makes God hates us and  punish us by sending lightning bolts and locusts and Muslim terrorists to kill us.

Moderate Republican:  Gay marriage is destroying American because people aren't getting married anymore because gay people can and getting married seems gay.

[I Will Not Be Wrong]

This guy is a carbon copy of Dubya. Same marriage policy, same immigration policy, same education policies...

That's what I am noticing also. Very happy about most of it, besides the same sex marriage policy.

[pbrower2a]

Single-motherhood is a disaster for children in the United States, because we have a pathetic welfare state. In civilized countries, obviously you're still going to generally be better off in a two-parent family, but it doesn't doom you to poverty like it does here.



http://www.vox.com/2014/4/14/5613658/chart-welfare-can-save-kids-from-poverty

Of course our social-welfare system is shabby in the extreme. We have other priorities, like rewarding people for having all the advantages.

Many "available" men are horrible people to have around children. Single motherhood is better than having an addict or alcoholic, let alone a violent ex-con in the house.

[Maxwell]

That's so stupid and makes no sense.

[pbrower2a]

That's so stupid and makes no sense.

Orthodoxy, GOP style, nothing more, nothing less.

[DemPGH]

It is exactly something that W. would say.

The thing is, children who come from a high income family are absolutely privileged. There's no question about that. There are simply avenues open to them that are not open to others. However, there are many, many children who come from traditional families that don't earn a lot of money, and they're in the same boat with everyone else. Getting into sports is one possible way out of poverty, I guess.

But the core of the statement is either conservative aristocratic ignorance or it's a carrot thrown to the social cons and right wingers and tea baggers. Maybe a little of both.

[Meursault]

All "compassionate conservatism" has ever meant is "social conservatism pitched as a solution to economic concerns".

That's it. It's an intellectual vapidity based on a confusion of cause and effect (single parenthood does not beget poverty - poverty begets single parenthood). It convinces nobody.

[Simfan34]

Too much weight is being given to the gay marriage angle. I mean, it's clear that was not what he was getting at. The relationship between single parenthood and poverty isn't remotely controversial, folks.

[Lief 🗽]

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