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« Reply #425 on: May 26, 2014, 03:45:32 PM »
« edited: May 26, 2014, 03:47:07 PM by CrabCake »

Will the far right get his group?

I guess the UKIP and Afd will never caucuse with them.
FN, FPÖ, PVV, VB, LN and SD would join them, but problem is to get additional seat. They'll need to choice to accept one of far-far-right people (NPD, Jobbik or Golden Dawn) or try to take ANEL from ECR or accepting DUP.

The True Finns maybe? They'll never let the parenthetical parties in, it'll be political insanity
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« Reply #426 on: May 26, 2014, 03:53:14 PM »

Will the far right get his group?

I guess the UKIP and Afd will never caucuse with them.

It actually looks slightly better for Le Pen/Wilders than Farage, I reckon. This looks rather certain: EAF will have FN with 24, PVV with 4, FPÖ with 4, SD with 2 and VB with 1.
The EFD will have UKIP with 24, Lithuanian TT with 2, Svobodní with 1 and SGP with 1.

Lega Nord with four seats has been in the EFD, but will most likely join EAF. Then EAF will only need an MEP from one other country.
DF looks very likely to join ECR, and the same for PS. This will make life very difficult for EFD which will then need MEPs from three other countries. An additional advantage for the Conservatives, I guess.
There seems to be a number of potential new partners for both EFD and EAF. Janusz Korwin-Mikkes new Polish Congress of the Right, ANEL from Greece, Bulgaria Without Censorship, Lithuanian Peasant and Greens Union which was in UEN from 2004-2009 but is said to be considering EPP, and perhaps the new Slovakian NOVA. There is of course also the possibility for individual defectors from other groups, or single man, maverick parties which have been elected on bigger party lists. I guess no one would like to touch Jobbik, Golden Dawn nor NPD.
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« Reply #427 on: May 26, 2014, 04:01:09 PM »

The DUP has no incentive to join a group. Their raison d'etre is representation of the majority religious community in Northern Ireland. They have no meaningful political platform to advance. Their political views largely reflect evangelical Christianity because that's the membership, but the point of the party is to protect the Protestant community.
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« Reply #428 on: May 26, 2014, 04:08:35 PM »
« Edited: May 27, 2014, 01:14:33 AM by blagohair.com »

Will the far right get his group?

I guess the UKIP and Afd will never caucuse with them.
FN, FPÖ, PVV, VB, LN and SD would join them, but problem is to get additional seat. They'll need to choice to accept one of far-far-right people (NPD, Jobbik or Golden Dawn) or try to take ANEL from ECR or accepting DUP.

ANEL will not join them.  This is the MEP they elected:
Marias Epaminondas (Notis)
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RESEARCH INTERESTS
Globalization
European Economic Integration
Institutions of the European Union
Theories of European Integration
European Citizenship
Immigration-Racism
Hellenic-Turkish Relations

http://economics.soc.uoc.gr/en/content/marias-epaminondas-notis

He is very pro-Europe and in favor of European integration and he might not even join ECR (he might go with ALDE instead).  

Edit:  Apparently I made a mistake, as Marias was narrowly defeated.  But I would be very surprised if ANEL joined a FN-led group.
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« Reply #429 on: May 26, 2014, 05:23:09 PM »

Oh wait... with all votes counted it changed again, lol

PO: 32,13%
PiS: 31,78%
SLD-UP: 9,44%
NP: 7,15%
PSL: 6,8%

No change in number of seats won

Still good news. Smiley
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« Reply #430 on: May 26, 2014, 06:57:31 PM »

How much does an MEP get paid? Is there a travel reimbursement?
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« Reply #431 on: May 26, 2014, 07:15:11 PM »

Its a notorious gravy train.
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« Reply #432 on: May 26, 2014, 07:22:31 PM »


Not quite like being an Italian MP though. Or at least I assume nothing is as generous.
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« Reply #433 on: May 26, 2014, 07:48:56 PM »

Well, re Clegg, it could be worse (cf. Jeremy Thorpe)
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« Reply #434 on: May 27, 2014, 12:56:03 AM »
« Edited: May 27, 2014, 01:11:19 AM by blagohair.com »

Podemos and their young leader Pablo Iglesias confirmed they are joining GUE-NGL.


http://www.publico.es/politica/523095/podemos-acuerda-con-tsipras-entrar-en-el-grupo-de-la-izquierda-unitaria-de-la-eurocamara

According to the above article GUE-NGL will get all 6 of the IU seats, but perhaps the writer made a mistake.
I'm interested in seeing whether the success of Podemos and IU and the failure of PSOE can lead to changes in Spanish politics.

It is quite interesting that of the 50-51 seats GUE-NGL appears to be getting, 44-45 are in Eurozone countries (the other 6 are 3 in the Czech Rep, 2 in Sweden and 1 in N. Ireland and there is also a Bulgarian MEP but she was elected in Greece with SYRIZA) where they easily win 3rd place.

Also, the bios of the Greek MEPs (I couldn't help but laugh when I read the bios of the ND MEPs):

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« Reply #435 on: May 27, 2014, 01:21:27 AM »

It might interest some of you that Sweden Democrat leader Jimmie Åkesson said on TV today that the party would "only" consider co-operating with UKIP and the Danish People's Party, whatever that means. Of course, he could always renege on that - which might be more likely than not.

The Sweden Democrats are between a rock and a hard place - they're too "dirty" for the softer, more populist parties such as UKIP and the True Finns, but aren't enthusiastic about being connected to Front National and the PVV. Their Youth League, which is more nationalist, would however love to see SD co-operate with Wilders and Le Pen.

In the end, they might end up outside a group, which would essentially eliminate their influence as their candidates aren't exactly strong enough to make much noise on their own.
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« Reply #436 on: May 27, 2014, 01:53:55 AM »
« Edited: May 27, 2014, 02:13:30 AM by blagohair.com »

It might interest some of you that Sweden Democrat leader Jimmie Åkesson said on TV today that the party would "only" consider co-operating with UKIP and the Danish People's Party, whatever that means. Of course, he could always renege on that - which might be more likely than not.

The Sweden Democrats are between a rock and a hard place - they're too "dirty" for the softer, more populist parties such as UKIP and the True Finns, but aren't enthusiastic about being connected to Front National and the PVV. Their Youth League, which is more nationalist, would however love to see SD co-operate with Wilders and Le Pen.

In the end, they might end up outside a group, which would essentially eliminate their influence as their candidates aren't exactly strong enough to make much noise on their own.

I really don't think UKIP will be able to form a group, especially if they lose Lega Nord and the True Finns.  The problem with nationalists is that it's really difficult for them to work with each other.  The ones that are most worried about their image will join Cameron's group, the ones that couldn't care less about their image will join Le Pen's group, while GD, NPD and Jobbik will sit on the side wondering why no one wants them.  It will be rather strange if personalities such as Farage or Grillo fail to find a group, but I can see it happening.

Huffington post by the way has a ranking of Europe's most dangerous far-right parties.

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« Reply #437 on: May 27, 2014, 02:35:43 AM »

If UKIP has trouble forming a group I don't think they'll object to SD. They were fine with Lega Nord and LAOS in the past after all.

I think it is the correct move by SD, association with FN and those guys would hurt them in Sweden. It seems silly to commit so publicly though, that worsens your negotiation position.
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« Reply #438 on: May 27, 2014, 02:43:59 AM »

The KNP (Poland) might join the new far-right EAF group, the "Standard" reports.

http://derstandard.at/2000001574429/EU-Wahl-Polnischer-EU-Skeptiker-strebt-Fraktion-mit-FPOe-an

While the Sweden Democrats have ruled it out.
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« Reply #439 on: May 27, 2014, 03:12:49 AM »

Turnout map:



EU-wide turnout was 43.1% (+0.1%)
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« Reply #440 on: May 27, 2014, 03:25:31 AM »

From the SORA election-day analysis (our version of an "Exit Poll"):

"Austria should leave the EU" - by party

Green voters: 3% Yes, 97% No
ÖVP voters: 6% Yes, 93% No, 2% undecided
NEOS voters: 8% Yes, 93% No
SPÖ voters: 14% Yes, 82% No, 3% Undecided
FPÖ voters: 62% Yes, 34% No, 4% Undecided

Total: 21% Yes, 77% No, 2% Undecided

(not always 100% because of rounding)
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« Reply #441 on: May 27, 2014, 03:38:42 AM »

FPÖ voters: 62% Yes, 34% No, 4% Undecided

Only 62%?
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« Reply #442 on: May 27, 2014, 03:40:37 AM »

Oh wait... with all votes counted it changed again, lol

PO: 32,13%
PiS: 31,78%
SLD-UP: 9,44%
NP: 7,15%
PSL: 6,8%

No change in number of seats won

Still good news. Smiley

A fact that PiS has almost won the election and, by low turnout, a fringe group get 5 seats, including a guy who just recently said that "women enjoy being raped and only pretends to resist", is hardly good news for me.

Not as bad as France, but still.
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« Reply #443 on: May 27, 2014, 03:51:46 AM »


I guess it's possible to hate immigrants without opposing the EU. A bit odd, though.
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« Reply #444 on: May 27, 2014, 04:02:14 AM »


I guess it's possible to hate immigrants without opposing the EU. A bit odd, though.

Yepp, many FPÖ-voters actually like the open borders thing when they drive to vacation in Italy and cuts in roaming fees etc. - so not all want to get out of the EU ... Wink
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« Reply #445 on: May 27, 2014, 04:06:57 AM »


Voting for Die PARTEI effectively reduced the chance of the NPD winning a second seat.

In any case, PARTEI leader Martin Sonneborn has announced that the'yre going to keep their campaign promise of resigning their seat every 30 days, so that any of the 60 PARTEI candidates on their list gets a chance to serve for a month in the European Parliament. Sonneborn said he's gonna use his 30 days to prepare himself for his impending resignation.
...which makes sense financially as well. Everyone of them is going to draw 8000 Euros a month for six months after their one month term... Cheesy
Of course, I see no valid definition of "joke party" that applies to the PARTEI but not to any of the multi-seat parties. As Sonneborn himself rightly said, "I don't think we're the craziest outfit to win a seat today."

That's a racket! You mean to say Die PARTEI is going to cost 3 million Euros? That's 48,000 Euros for six months- a year's salary! I ought to have gotten on the list!
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« Reply #446 on: May 27, 2014, 04:09:39 AM »

Will the far right get his group?

I guess the UKIP and Afd will never caucuse with them.

It actually looks slightly better for Le Pen/Wilders than Farage, I reckon. This looks rather certain: EAF will have FN with 24, PVV with 4, FPÖ with 4, SD with 2 and VB with 1.
The EFD will have UKIP with 24, Lithuanian TT with 2, Svobodní with 1 and SGP with 1.
SGP will probably join ECR. The party was refused entry in the ECR 5 years ago because of its ban on party membership for women. This has been sorted out, women are allowed to join the SGP now (and 2 months ago the first female SGP municipal councillor has been elected).
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« Reply #447 on: May 27, 2014, 04:15:16 AM »

Some "change maps" for Austria by district:

ÖVP (%-change compared with 2009 election)



SPÖ (%-change compared with 2009 election)



FPÖ (%-change compared with 2009 election)



Greens (%-change compared with 2009 election)



BZÖ (%-change compared with 2009 election)



Turnout 2014



Turnout (%-change compared with 2009 election)

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« Reply #448 on: May 27, 2014, 04:29:01 AM »

Some points that are worth noting:

* the turnout divide between North-Eastern and Western/Southern Austria.

* The SPÖ's gains in Carinthia.

* The ÖVP's losses in Styria and - important for this year because of the coming state elections - in Vorarlberg.

* The Green gains in Vorarlberg - important for this year because of the coming state elections - in Vorarlberg.

* The ÖVP gains in Northern Burgenland (state elections next year).

* The FPÖ's gains in Styria (already seen in the federal elections last year) and in Carinthia.

* The BZÖ's death all over Austria, especially in Carinthia (-> their voters went to SPÖ and FPÖ).

* The turnout increase in Southern Austria.

* The fact that the FPÖ gained the least percentage points in Vienna.
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« Reply #449 on: May 27, 2014, 04:46:46 AM »

Quite a few resignations already around Europe after some poor EP2014 showings.

PSOE leader Alfredo Perez Rubalcaba
Leader of the Irish Labour Party Eamon Gilmore
MSZP (Hungarian Socialists) leader Attila Mesterházy
Romanian National Liberal Party leader Crin Antonescu

In Denmark the pressure is mounting on the Liberal leader Lars Løkke Rasmussen, but for now it looks like he will try to fight through it.

In Austria, the BZÖ-leader could step down (it would be better if the party just dissolved alltogether).

Also, Chancellor Faymann (SPÖ) is under some internal pressure for the weak SPÖ-result.
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