EP elections 2014 - Results Thread

[republicanbayer]

Thank you!

[justfollowingtheelections]

Grillo has applied to join the Greens (something I predicted awhile ago)
http://euobserver.com/tickers/124489

[Antonio the Sixth]

Grillo has applied to join the Greens (something I predicted awhile ago)
http://euobserver.com/tickers/124489

LOL

[Steffers]

The Finns have announced that they and DPP have been accepted to ECR.

[StateBoiler]

Juncker is a super European insider from mighty power Luxembourg that few people know and fewer people in the European voting process were ever exposed to. Elections are supposed to have a veneer of responsibility attached to them, yet there were many countries where people voted and have no idea who Juncker, Schulz, Verhofstedt, etc. were. When people were voting for the European Parliament, they were not voting for those individuals to be their leaders. They were voting for their respective national parties whom most of the people that vote for them don't know their European party affiliation or care.

Verhofstedt to me is the worst. He gets a challenge from Olli Rehn who Verhofstedt and a few of his backers don't like, so instead of actually having an election to decide who is ALDE's candidate/leader for the EP elections (God forbid people, politicians even, actually have to vote on who their leader was), they work out a backroom compromise so the party primary disappears.

Yes but what you are forgetting that a Europe-wide election just between Schultz, Juncker, et al would do well to have a 0.5% turnout.

that's the fault of the European political system and its associated political parties, not me

[joevsimp]

Grillo has applied to join the Greens (something I predicted awhile ago)
http://euobserver.com/tickers/124489

I'm not sure they'd have him, there are two or three pirates though

[Diouf]

The Finns have announced that they and DPP have been accepted to ECR.

The ECR Group have announced that they currently have 55 members, which makes it the fourth largest group, and that more are on its way. They have not made an official announcement of who the new members are yet, but according to media reports it is DF/DPP, the Finns Party, Die Familien-Partei, ANEL and the two Slovakian one-MEP parties OĽaNO and NOVA. Bulgaria without Censorship has been reported as potential members, while the vote on accepting AfD has been postponed; apparently Bernd Lucke has said that it's ECR or no group. The reports about internal disagreements in the party continue with some of the liberal founding members threatening to quit, while others want the party to join EFD instead of ECR. However, the latter group might become more silent as it seems more and more difficult for the EFD to be able to re-form a group.

[You kip if you want to...]

Grillo has applied to join the Greens (something I predicted awhile ago)
http://euobserver.com/tickers/124489

LOL

He really is a comedian.

[Jens]

This is only good

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Prizeless

[Jens]

The Finns have announced that they and DPP have been accepted to ECR.

The ECR Group have announced that they currently have 55 members, which makes it the fourth largest group, and that more are on its way. They have not made an official announcement of who the new members are yet, but according to media reports it is DF/DPP, the Finns Party, Die Familien-Partei, ANEL and the two Slovakian one-MEP parties OĽaNO and NOVA. Bulgaria without Censorship has been reported as potential members, while the vote on accepting AfD has been postponed; apparently Bernd Lucke has said that it's ECR or no group. The reports about internal disagreements in the party continue with some of the liberal founding members threatening to quit, while others want the party to join EFD instead of ECR. However, the latter group might become more silent as it seems more and more difficult for the EFD to be able to re-form a group.

Any link to that? It will be quite a triumph for DPP if they are accepted into ECR.

[Bacon King]

This is only good

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I'm sure this has absolutely nothing to do with SYRIZA or Alex Tsipras!

If you think KKE would join a SYRIZA government, take a note of this move.

[Diouf]

Any link to that? It will be quite a triumph for DPP if they are accepted into ECR.

A Danish one here: http://www.altinget.dk/artikel/britiske-konservative-giver-groent-lys-til-messerschmidt

[justfollowingtheelections]

I wonder what Farage will do now that Cameron and Le Pen stole all his allies/potential allies.

[justfollowingtheelections]

Grillo has applied to join the Greens (something I predicted awhile ago)
http://euobserver.com/tickers/124489

I'm not sure they'd have him, there are two or three pirates though

The Greens have indeed rejected the application:
http://euobserver.com/eu-elections/124495

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[Antonio the Sixth]

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Well, then the best move would have been to accept, in order to expose Grillo's hypocrisy if he eventually renege on his adhesion. By rejecting it they're legitimizing him in seeking alliance with Farage.

[Zinneke]

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Well, then the best move would have been to accept, in order to expose Grillo's hypocrisy if he eventually renege on his adhesion. By rejecting it they're legitimizing him in seeking alliance with Farage.

Farage's incentive is that it distances him further from the far right which will always be the main issue people have with his party. His terminology (such as People's Army) is swinging to Grillo-style populism.

In a run up to a general election where his programme is elitist at best he needs to convince his working class voters he is the anti-establishment candidate.

[justfollowingtheelections]

Apparently, some Greens are willing to accept individual M5S members, they just don't want to be associated with Grillo because of his discussions with Farage.  I see M5S falling apart if that happens.
http://euobserver.com/institutional/124507

[YL]

I find it a little surprising that the Tories are happy with the Danish People's Party and the (True) Finns; I'd thought those parties were both regarded as not quite respectable enough for mainstream parties to associate with.  What do our more Conservative-sympathetic posters think?

Of course, in the case of the Danish party, I may be mixing them up a bit with their counterparts in Borgen.

[justfollowingtheelections]

I find it a little surprising that the Tories are happy with the Danish People's Party and the (True) Finns; I'd thought those parties were both regarded as not quite respectable enough for mainstream parties to associate with.  What do our more Conservative-sympathetic posters think?

Of course, in the case of the Danish party, I may be mixing them up a bit with their counterparts in Borgen.

They don't care.  It's Cameron's "f*** y**" to Farage.  If UKIP fails to form a group (which is now a very strong possibility) they will either lose out on the funds the Union gives to parliamentary groups or they will be forced to join Le Pen's far-right group, which will probably hurt their chances of winning the next election.

[Хahar 🤔]

I don't think you need to censor "you" on these boards.

[Swedish Rainbow Capitalist Cheese]

Looks like SD's chances of joining EFD is all of a sudden looking up.

[politicus]

In the case of DPP they have had good contacts with euro-sceptic Tory right wingers for close to a decade now, so its not surprising + Morten Messerschmidt has excellent personal contacts with members of the Tory right. True Finns are more moderate than DPP, so it makes sense. None of the parties have neo-Nazi roots or connections. Messerschmidt is convicted for racist statements, which is illegal after the Danish criminal code, but I guess thats water under the bridge.

Why put True Finns in ()? It is the party name. Use "True" if you think its ridiculous.

[Antonio the Sixth]

The "True Finns" may not be the worst far-right party in Europe, but they have the most disgustingly xenophobic name possible.

[YL]

I thought the party's approved English translation of their Finnish name now left out the "True", possibly because of what Antonio said.  Hence the ().

[politicus]

I thought the party's approved English translation of their Finnish name now left out the "True", possibly because of what Antonio said.  Hence the ().

According to wikipedia it does. That's even more ridiculous - but I guess it makes sense.

Speaking of problematic names the Danish Peoples Party was originally the name of a small Nazi splinter party during the war, which tried to brand themselves as patriotic Danish Nazis, unlike those treasonous pro-German ones in the DNSAP. But Pia Kjærsgaard chose to ignore this fact when she named the party, thinking that nobody apart from a few historians would care. And she was right.