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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #450 on: May 27, 2014, 07:49:36 AM »

Sigh... Junker is the worst possible answer to these election results.
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« Reply #451 on: May 27, 2014, 07:56:31 AM »

Do you think that EPP will accept Mussolini to their group?

I guess they will just do as with all other Forza Italia MEPs; hope no one notices them. If asked, they will just mumble that all groups have some funny guys and move on quickly. I think it will only be a problem if she makes some crazy comments like the last time when she made the Identity, Tradition, Sovereignty explode after stating that all Romanians are criminals. She could, however, be a good guess on a MEP that leaves the EPP at some point and then join of the various Eurosceptic groups.
I can see Antonio Tajani, the European Commissioner for Industry and Entrepreneurship, ran for Forza Italia and was elected with a good personal result. So I guess he could very well be the leader of the FI delegation as he was from June 1999 until May 2008.
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« Reply #452 on: May 27, 2014, 10:41:39 AM »

The 2 Potami MEPs are joining the S&D group.

http://www.enetenglish.gr/?i=news.en.politics&id=1973

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« Reply #453 on: May 27, 2014, 10:46:35 AM »

We are still counting.

Fine Gael are now certain to win the remaining two seats in South with Sean Kelly being the first over the line and then between Deirdre Clune and Simon Harris for the last, Clune is currently 3,000 votes ahead of Harris and will all depend on how the 2nd FF's candidates second preferences will be distributed. However, there's no particular reason why those should favour Harris over Clune so it's the Cork Woman who is very likely to be elected (meaning no Wicklow by-election Sad )

In Midlands-North West it is between Maria Harkin (IND; ALDE) and Pat 'The Cope' Gallagher (FF; ummm... ALDE) for the fourth and final seat. The 2nd FF candidate has been eliminated but Harkin is over 20,000 votes ahead at this stage so she is favoured, but it will probably be close and might go down to surpluses.
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« Reply #454 on: May 27, 2014, 11:55:13 AM »
« Edited: May 27, 2014, 12:01:22 PM by neosmyrnian »

Any thoughts about the European Parliament election in Greece?

The results are:
SYRIZA: 26.58%, 6 seats
ND: 22.71%, 5 seats
Golden Dawn: 9.40%, 3 seats
Elia: 8.02%, 2 seats
Potami: 6.60%, 2 seats
KKE: 6.09%, 2 seats
Independent Greeks: 3.46%, 1 seat
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« Reply #455 on: May 27, 2014, 12:17:55 PM »

I'm surprised SYRIZA was so low, actually - lower than in the last legislative elections. Weren't they supposed to win about 30% ?
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« Reply #456 on: May 27, 2014, 12:19:00 PM »

More or less OK results in Greece.
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« Reply #457 on: May 27, 2014, 12:29:32 PM »

I'm surprised SYRIZA was so low, actually - lower than in the last legislative elections. Weren't they supposed to win about 30% ?
Maybe because of PASOK and Potami's relatively good performance (yep I know, PASOK lost big, but still an improvement!)
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« Reply #458 on: May 27, 2014, 12:38:16 PM »

PASOK did surprisingly well, all things considering.

You know what would be cool? Direct Presidential elections for the EU president. None of this stupid horse-trading and uncertainty.

Who knows, maybe we can bring in a European electoral collage. That's always fun to watch in the US. Cheesy
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« Reply #459 on: May 27, 2014, 12:41:42 PM »

PASOK did surprisingly well, all things considering.

You know what would be cool? Direct Presidential elections for the EU president. None of this stupid horse-trading and uncertainty.

Who knows, maybe we can bring in a European electoral collage. That's always fun to watch in the US. Cheesy

Brrr, no: Better a direct vote for President yeah, but not an electoral college.

Btw: The current system is more or less an electoral college, with the heads of state being the electoral college members who are theoretically not pledged to support the winner of the election.
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« Reply #460 on: May 27, 2014, 12:47:25 PM »

PASOK did surprisingly well, all things considering.

You know what would be cool? Direct Presidential elections for the EU president. None of this stupid horse-trading and uncertainty.

Who knows, maybe we can bring in a European electoral collage. That's always fun to watch in the US. Cheesy

I know some disagree here but I think interest in the elections would be a lot higher if people could vote for European parties.  Juncker for example says that he won the election which is funny because if you ask the average Fidesz voter in Hungary, they probably don't even know who Juncker is.
It would also be interesting if the top parties had more credible candidates.  Merkel vs Renzi would draw a lot more interest than Juncker vs Schulz.
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« Reply #461 on: May 27, 2014, 12:52:02 PM »

PASOK did surprisingly well, all things considering.

You know what would be cool? Direct Presidential elections for the EU president. None of this stupid horse-trading and uncertainty.

Who knows, maybe we can bring in a European electoral collage. That's always fun to watch in the US. Cheesy

I know some disagree here but I think interest in the elections would be a lot higher if people could vote for European parties.  Juncker for example says that he won the election which is funny because if you ask the average Fidesz voter in Hungary, they probably don't even know who Juncker is.
It would also be interesting if the top parties had more credible candidates.  Merkel vs Renzi would draw a lot more interest than Juncker vs Schulz.

Yeah, but that would only ever happen if the position was actually, you know, worth running for. It will only become worth running for with the creation of a federal Europe, and such a development is neither popular nor feasible.
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« Reply #462 on: May 27, 2014, 01:03:45 PM »

About the Greek elections, although SYRIZA was first, its vote percentage was a bit lower that the one it got in the legislative elections in June 2012 (26.89%). What is worrying, though, is the very strong performance of the neo-Nazi Golden Dawn, which came third. I might be wrong, but it seems that Golden Dawn is much further to the right than the National Front in France and Golden Dawn's performance must be taken much more seriously in Greece.
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« Reply #463 on: May 27, 2014, 01:48:28 PM »

Interest would be a lot lower in European parties. People already hate their own national parties because they're out-of-touch; what would they think of parties based in Strasbourg?
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« Reply #464 on: May 27, 2014, 02:42:37 PM »

The Animal Protection Party in Germany is joining GUE-NGL
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« Reply #465 on: May 27, 2014, 03:03:11 PM »

The Swedish Prime Minister Reinfeldt will not support Juncker.
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« Reply #466 on: May 27, 2014, 03:34:21 PM »

I'm surprised SYRIZA was so low, actually - lower than in the last legislative elections. Weren't they supposed to win about 30% ?

Both SYRIZA and ND underperformed slightly. SYRIZA was at the low end of its range in the last week of polling, ND a couple of points below the low end. SYRIZA's margin of victory was 3.9%, about on par with expectations. Like windjammer and CrabCake said, Totally-Not-PASOK-Guys did a little better than it was supposed to, as did 'Other'.

DIMAR also underperformed but I don't know that anybody cares about DIMAR any more.
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« Reply #467 on: May 27, 2014, 03:47:58 PM »

The margin between the Cope and Harkin for the last seat in Midlands-North-West, Ireland, will be a few hundred votes. Expect recount.
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« Reply #468 on: May 27, 2014, 03:52:51 PM »

I tried to summarize the results based on what I have read here and on other websites regarding new parties and the groups they are joining and this is what I came up with.  Feel free to ask questions or make corrections:


If this is correct then Le Pen would be unable to form a group since she needs partners from 6 other countries and so far she only seems to have 5.
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« Reply #469 on: May 27, 2014, 03:54:20 PM »

The Swedish Prime Minister Reinfeldt will not support Juncker.
That's.  Any given reason?
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« Reply #470 on: May 27, 2014, 03:55:28 PM »

Interest would be a lot lower in European parties.

This is actually an immense understatement.
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« Reply #471 on: May 27, 2014, 03:56:47 PM »

Interest would be a lot lower in European parties.

This is actually an immense understatement.

Plus, presumably, as long as we're still democracies, national parties will still be allowed to contest.

UKIP versus the German socialists?

Recipe for dissolution of the EU.
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« Reply #472 on: May 27, 2014, 04:23:34 PM »

The Swedish Prime Minister Reinfeldt will not support Juncker.
That's.  Any given reason?
It was reported in the news that Cameron could conviince him to join him and Orban.
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« Reply #473 on: May 27, 2014, 04:34:33 PM »

The Swedish Prime Minister Reinfeldt will not support Juncker.
That's.  Any given reason?
It was reported in the news that Cameron could conviince him to join him and Orban.

Cameron's working with Victor Orban? Jesus wept.
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« Reply #474 on: May 27, 2014, 04:57:32 PM »

UKIP turned down the Sweden Democrats. Lol.

Also, Le Pen is hoping to get some Eastern European I guess? Maybe the Poles?
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