EP elections 2014 - Results Thread

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Have you seen Valls and Copé talking? There is not much to expect from these guys. Vall's speech was particularly embarrassing for him... It seems so fake. They keep talking about job and growth, but are not able to give a single idea or proposition. Who expects anything from them? They all say they are patriots. Is a patriot to consider us like idiots or cowards who cannot hear the truth?

I am a 20-something from a place no one cares about, most of us are struggling a bit but we know we will cope, we need some leaders who acknowledge that not everything is all right and who want to do something about it

People are trying to find a way to get rid of them, and the only way they find is to vote for Le Pen. Many of my friends voted FN, they have more 30% over here, 35% in big cities like Perpignan or Béziers...

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Was Godfrey Bloom running for these elections?

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The outcome of the meeting between the EP group leaders:

The MEPs know what's at stake here, if Juncker becomes the Commission President it will be an unwritten rule for the next elections and it will benefit them on the long term.

I think Cameron is alone on this one... Maybe he will manage to get Orban with him, but even him in the EPP so I expect him to support the EPP candidate.

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To Comrade Sibboleth and EPG:  Don't you think the people should know what they're voting for?  Shouldn't the ballots at least have the names of the European parties their MEPs will join once elected? 

They do it in the Netherlands for example, but it's probably not mandatory.

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Seriously, you can stop fantasizing about Jobbik joining Le Pen. Just type Jobbik in Google Images if you don't understand why.

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You must also understand that aboard  FN is often seen as similar crazy military group.

Well that's bullsh**t, there isn't much more to say.
You can compare the FN in France, the PVV in Netherlands or the UDC in Switzerland.
The NPD, Golden Dawn or Jobbik are in another category. Do you also think that the Jobbik and the PVV could work together?
I am not trying to argue here, just to explain.

You can also forget about the UKIP not willing to work with the FN because they are antisemitic as Farage says, that's also bullsh**t. Both parties have the same stance on immigration, islam or Europe. The huge difference between them right now is on economy where the FN is statist (De Gaulle's way) and the UKIP wants less state intervention.
The FN has a terrible image in the UK which is not totally justified. Note that I am not complaining about it: it prevents the FN and the UKIP from working together, which is good thing because they could be really annoying.

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Open Europe (http://openeuropeblog.blogspot.nl/) made a useful chart to represent the possible Eurosceptic groups.



Full article here: http://openeuropeblog.blogspot.nl/2014/05/who-will-win-race-for-most-anti-eu-meps.html

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That's terrible news for Ed Miliband.

What?

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More on the formation of groups in the EP: http://europedecides.eu/2014/06/whos-going-where-tracking-the-musical-chairs-in-the-european-parliament/

Deadline is June 24.

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To talk about something else, how many MEPs have been elected outside of their own country?

I only know of Konstantina Kouneva, a Bulgarian MEP elected in Greece with Syriza.

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So Juncker it is. As Le Monde said: "The person who has as visceral opponents the British Eurosceptic David Cameron and the Hungarian ultra-nationalist Viktor Orban cannot be a bad guy."

I often disagree with them, but this time I think this article from Open Europe if worth reading for those who wonder what's next for the UK: http://www.openeurope.org.uk/Article/Page/en/LIVE?id=20306&page=FlashAnalysis#

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It appears now that the decision to delay the choice for the top-EU posts was quite fortunate, and the Mogherini - Thorning-Schmidt is in danger, at least the first one.

Mogherini was already rejected by a number of countries for being too pro-Russian. After the last events, the opposition is becoming much stronger. Also, Italia wanted the post of Foreigns Affairs and Security to bring the topic of illegal immigration to the fore, and it appears now that the European diplomacy will have to focus instead on the relation with Russia and, to a lesser extent, on the Middle-East. The name of Elisabeth Guigou is circulating and it's quite a plausible option. And since she is a Socialist like Mogherini, Thorning-Schmidt would probably keep the EU council job.

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I think most of the success of this commission will depend on the vice-presidents. These 'super-commissioners' are a new thing, we will see how it works.

As for Canete, he was the candidate put forward by the Spanish goverment, so Juncker had to chose him, but is he going to be accepted by the European Parliament? They need the socialists to approve as well to get a majority.

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The anti-pro EU dimension (I also called it sovereignty-intergration) on 1d for more visibility:



I further divided the Left-Right dimension in more dimensions, if you wonder what's in it:

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After a few corrections:



Details of each EP group (one blue dot=one party):

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Orange dot is the overall center of gravity of the EP, and each country position can be compared to this dot.

Too lazy to say much about the methodology.

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It didn't last long. Now that the UKIP is doing its coming out on immigration, they could consider joining the PVV-FN-FPO-LN-etc.

Oh, go on, tell us. It's intriguing.

Once it's published I can share it.

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It didn't last long. Now that the UKIP is doing its coming out on immigration, they could consider joining the PVV-FN-FPO-LN-etc.

Oh, go on, tell us. It's intriguing.

Once it's published I can share it.

have they not explicitly ruled out working with almost al of the non-inscrit nationalists?

They actually just did that, with MEP from the Polish Congress of the New right joining the EFDD. They definitely belong to the "not socially acceptable" far-right, but they are a small and relatively unknown party, so it should allow the EFDD to keep the millions of funding from the EU while avoiding a public backslash.