Rudy vs. Hillary in 2008

[Rockefeller GOP]

It seemed around 2006, most people were expecting a Giuliani vs. Clinton matchup in the 2008 Presidential election.  As we all know, Rudy ran a questionable campaign and Hillary got upset by a young up and comer in Obama.  As we also all know, 2008 was a tough climate for Republicans, but I believe Rudy would have made them competitive in some more swing states.  Anyway, what do you think a 2008 Rudy vs. Hillary map might have looked like?

[NHI]

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A Republican winning in 2008 was hard, regardless of the economy, but Giuliani I think makes it competitive against Clinton.

√ Hillary Clinton: 366 (52%)

Rudy Giuliani: 172 (46%)

[Maxwell]

Giuliani's advantage had all but burned out by the time of the primary, and I think he would've failed about the level of McCain, which means he was the best or second best candidate for the Republicans.

[Indy Texas]

Giuliani's parochialism would have doomed him in a national campaign. His universe doesn't extend beyond the Tri-State Area.

Furthermore, he was a one-trick pony whose pony was being mayor on 9/11, and in November 2008, people had many things on their mind that came before "defeating the evildoers."

[SPC]

Unless Giuliani picks Palin or someone equivalent I can't see him winning the upper South against Clinton. Colorado, Florida, and Indiana are the closest states.

[TX Conservative Dem]

What would be the percentage between Hilary and Giuliani?

[RR1997]

A Republican winning in 2008 was hard, regardless of the economy, but Giuliani I think makes it competitive against Clinton.

√ Hillary Clinton: 275

Rudy Giuliani: 263

With the 2008 Financial Crisis, I don't think it would've been this close.

I think the map would've looked something like this:

Hillary Clinton: 362 Electoral Votes, 52.5% of the Popular Vote.
Rudy Giuliani: 176 Electoral Votes, 46.3% of the Popular Vote.


I just can't imagine someone like Rudy doing well in the south, especially against a member of the Clinton family.

[TX Conservative Dem]

Hilary loses Colorado?

Why ?

[RR1997]

Hilary loses Colorado?

Why ?

I think that Hillary would lose Colorado because Colorado hates the Clinton's, and Colorado is a very libertarian and anti-dynasty state. Also remember that Colorado was a lot more Republican back in 2008 than it is now, and that Obama crushed Hillary in the 2008 Colorado primaries.

Polling also showed McCain leading Hillary in Colorado, so I don't see why Giuliani couldn't beat Clinton there as well.

[MATTROSE94]

A Republican winning in 2008 was hard, regardless of the economy, but Giuliani I think makes it competitive against Clinton.

√ Hillary Clinton: 275

Rudy Giuliani: 263

With the 2008 Financial Crisis, I don't think it would've been this close.

I think the map would've looked something like this:

Hillary Clinton: 362 Electoral Votes, 52.2% of the Popular Vote.
Rudy Giuliani: 176 Electoral Votes, 46.3% of the Popular Vote.


I just can't imagine someone like Rudy doing well in the south, especially against a member of the Clinton family.

Your map looks pretty close to what I would have imagined, though I do have Hillary Clinton winning Tennessee and Georgia against Rudy Giuliani.

[NewYorkExpress]

My Gut tells me Guliani would have done worse in the South but better in the Northeast and Mid-Atlantic (even with the financial crisis).

Closest Clinton victories are Tennessee, Kentucky, Missouri, West Virginia, Georgia and Nevada.

Closest Giuliani victories are Pennsylvania, North Carolina, New Jersey, Connecticut, Vermont and Maine's 2nd Congressional District

The Final Electoral vote tally would equal;

Hillary Clinton (D) 328
Rudy Giuliani (R) 210

[TX Conservative Dem]

How would the U.S. Senate races in 2008 been impacted on a Clinton vs Guiliani ?

[MATTROSE94]

How would the U.S. Senate races in 2008 been impacted on a Clinton vs Guiliani ?

Most races would turn out the same with the exception of a few. Some of the differences would be Bruce Lunsford and Jim Martin defeating  Mitch McConnell and Saxby Chambliss, John Sununu and Gordon Smith holding on against Jeanne Shaheen and Jeff Merkley and Bob Schaffer beating Mark Udall to succeed retiring Senator Wayne Allard. Ronnie Musgrove might have also won the Mississippi special election as well.

[TX Conservative Dem]

And the governorships ?

[MATTROSE94]

And the governorships ?

Probably about the same, though Bev Perdue might have defeated Pat McCrory by a slightly larger margin.

[TX Conservative Dem]

I'd like to see who's gonna be in Hilary's cabinet ?

Where would Ford Jr., go ?