India 2014 - Results

[Famous Mortimer]

So in that seat where all the Muslims got killed:

BJP backed independent supported by non-Bodos won?

Incumbent Bodo who broke away from the Bodo party because they were too crazy came in second.

Bodo party candidate came in third.

Is that right?

BJP backed independent Hira Sarania won.  Incumbent BPF ran as an independent because BPF nominated someone else  BPF wanted to nominate someone that is more inclusive and more likely to get votes beyond the Bodo community.  So the Incumbent BPF MP ran as the BODO candidate in the election.  BJP backed Hira Sarania won because of the split in the Bodo vote.  Hira Sarania was an ULFA extremist and a commander of an ULFA battalion.  ULFA is a terrorist organization that fights for the independence of Assam mainly to keep out non-Assamese.  He was arrested back in 2012 for robbery, kidnap and murder but somehow was allowed to contest and now won.

Ah. So the Congress backed BPF candidate was actually the most moderate? It was probably supporters of the incumbent who carried out the massacre?

[jaichind]

Ah. So the Congress backed BPF candidate was actually the most moderate? It was probably supporters of the incumbent who carried out the massacre?

Correct on the first count.  Most likely right on the second count. The massacre was by Bodo extremists with the victims Muslims.  It is very likely the Bodo extremists wanted the Muslims to vote for the BPF rebel who was THE Bodo candidate but did not do so.  It is also possible that the Bodo extremists made a deal with the BJP backed ex-ULFA extremist independent.  These types of deals has been made in the past.

[jaichind]

JD(U) CM of Bihar Nitish Kumar resigns as CM to prevent a split in the JD(U) as pro-BJP faction are out for blood for this election fiasco.  Possible mid term elections for Bihar.

[jaichind]

Since INC failed to get more than 54 seats (10%) of the Lok Shabha, like 1984, there will be no leader of the opposition.

[Famous Mortimer]

Any results from state assembly elections? What states were having them?

[Famous Mortimer]

Looking at the results in Kerala, the Congress led United Democratic Front and the CPI(M) led Left Democratic Front came in first or second in every constituency.

Except Thiruvananthapuram, where a BJP candidate pushed the Left Democratic Front into third place. What is special about Thiruvananthapuram?

[Sbane]

"not my friends and family who will be killed"... "the consequences" and "whatever happens"? Forgive my ignorance, but I'm not sure why just because some riots happened 12 years ago anything like that's going to be repeated now. BJP was in power in the 1990's were they not, and there were no mass anti muslim pogroms?

All the posts about Muslims being killed are borne out of ignorance. They have got to be unaware of the type of campaign the BJP ran this year and are stuck on events that happen more than a decade ago. And if the BJP had to run this sort of campaign in order to get this huge win, why would they set about creating sectarian strife which will cause damage to the economy, and thus their re-election in 2019.

By the way, I have never said it is just the Muslims that will be killed. Hindus have at least as much to be worried about. But, hey, electing an unapologetic mass murderer is good for development, isn't it?

Repeating a lie over and over doesn't make it true.

[Sbane]

Looking at the results in Kerala, the Congress led United Democratic Front and the CPI(M) led Left Democratic Front came in first or second in every constituency.

Except Thiruvananthapuram, where a BJP candidate pushed the Left Democratic Front into third place. What is special about Thiruvananthapuram?

Perhaps the fact that it is a city. It is also located very close to Kanyakumari which is considered to be a holy place. I don't know if that causes the locals to have a more favorable opinion of the BJP than the rest of Kerala. BJP outright won Kanyakumari as well.

[ag]

"not my friends and family who will be killed"... "the consequences" and "whatever happens"? Forgive my ignorance, but I'm not sure why just because some riots happened 12 years ago anything like that's going to be repeated now. BJP was in power in the 1990's were they not, and there were no mass anti muslim pogroms?

All the posts about Muslims being killed are borne out of ignorance. They have got to be unaware of the type of campaign the BJP ran this year and are stuck on events that happen more than a decade ago. And if the BJP had to run this sort of campaign in order to get this huge win, why would they set about creating sectarian strife which will cause damage to the economy, and thus their re-election in 2019.

By the way, I have never said it is just the Muslims that will be killed. Hindus have at least as much to be worried about. But, hey, electing an unapologetic mass murderer is good for development, isn't it?

Repeating a lie over and over doesn't make it true.

Interesting. Coming so soon after posting an "interesting" link, that in any country, but India, would have been considered outright fascist propaganda.

[Sbane]

"not my friends and family who will be killed"... "the consequences" and "whatever happens"? Forgive my ignorance, but I'm not sure why just because some riots happened 12 years ago anything like that's going to be repeated now. BJP was in power in the 1990's were they not, and there were no mass anti muslim pogroms?

All the posts about Muslims being killed are borne out of ignorance. They have got to be unaware of the type of campaign the BJP ran this year and are stuck on events that happen more than a decade ago. And if the BJP had to run this sort of campaign in order to get this huge win, why would they set about creating sectarian strife which will cause damage to the economy, and thus their re-election in 2019.

By the way, I have never said it is just the Muslims that will be killed. Hindus have at least as much to be worried about. But, hey, electing an unapologetic mass murderer is good for development, isn't it?

Repeating a lie over and over doesn't make it true.

Interesting. Coming so soon after posting an "interesting" link, that in any country, but India, would have been considered outright fascist propaganda.

LOL what the hell are you even talking about?

[ag]

"not my friends and family who will be killed"... "the consequences" and "whatever happens"? Forgive my ignorance, but I'm not sure why just because some riots happened 12 years ago anything like that's going to be repeated now. BJP was in power in the 1990's were they not, and there were no mass anti muslim pogroms?

All the posts about Muslims being killed are borne out of ignorance. They have got to be unaware of the type of campaign the BJP ran this year and are stuck on events that happen more than a decade ago. And if the BJP had to run this sort of campaign in order to get this huge win, why would they set about creating sectarian strife which will cause damage to the economy, and thus their re-election in 2019.

By the way, I have never said it is just the Muslims that will be killed. Hindus have at least as much to be worried about. But, hey, electing an unapologetic mass murderer is good for development, isn't it?

Repeating a lie over and over doesn't make it true.

Interesting. Coming so soon after posting an "interesting" link, that in any country, but India, would have been considered outright fascist propaganda.

LOL what the hell are you even talking about?

That article you found so "interesting", of course.

[Sbane]

Ag, the bottom line is that the BJP has nothing to gain from sectarian violence and everything to lose. So you, and the other ignorant fools on here, talking about massacres have no clue what you are talking about.

And you should stop lying about Modi being a mass murder since there is absolutely no proof of that. The only debate is whether he did enough to stop the violence or not. I can respect someone who won't vote for Modi because they felt he didn't do enough, but I can't respect someone who spreads lies and influences people whose only exposure to Indian politics might be this thread. There is just no reason to believe the BJP will cause sectarian violence at the center. If you actually think about it rationally and compare the demographics of Gujarat to India, you will understand why.

[Sbane]

"not my friends and family who will be killed"... "the consequences" and "whatever happens"? Forgive my ignorance, but I'm not sure why just because some riots happened 12 years ago anything like that's going to be repeated now. BJP was in power in the 1990's were they not, and there were no mass anti muslim pogroms?

All the posts about Muslims being killed are borne out of ignorance. They have got to be unaware of the type of campaign the BJP ran this year and are stuck on events that happen more than a decade ago. And if the BJP had to run this sort of campaign in order to get this huge win, why would they set about creating sectarian strife which will cause damage to the economy, and thus their re-election in 2019.

By the way, I have never said it is just the Muslims that will be killed. Hindus have at least as much to be worried about. But, hey, electing an unapologetic mass murderer is good for development, isn't it?

Repeating a lie over and over doesn't make it true.

Interesting. Coming so soon after posting an "interesting" link, that in any country, but India, would have been considered outright fascist propaganda.

LOL what the hell are you even talking about?

That article you found so "interesting", of course.

Apparently you don't understand the meaning of the word fascist.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Interesting article here.

[Sbane]

Interesting article here.

Another pissed off socialist. I am not going to take an article seriously if it is against greater privatization of the "government". Government shouldn't be running things like airlines and phone companies.

[Sbane]

http://time.com/73176/india-elections-narendra-modi-bollywood-salim-salman-khan/

[moderatevoter]

Interesting read! But LOL in all fairness, Salman Khan is not someone who I'd be touting support from.

[TheDeadFlagBlues]

Sbane, could you please stop hijacking this thread? This isn't the Indian equivalent of RedState: socialism isn't a slur and privatization is objectionable from the standpoint of many academic economists. We get it, you like Modi and hate the Indian left. You've made your point.

[Sbane]

Interesting read! But LOL in all fairness, Salman Khan is not someone who I'd be touting support from.

Haha fair enough. Although they did not vote for Modi, I think a lot of Muslims realize Modi won't be worse than the other options out there. It's not as if discrimination towards Muslims in India started with the BJP.

[Sbane]

Sbane, could you please stop hijacking this thread? This isn't the Indian equivalent of RedState: socialism isn't a slur and privatization is objectionable from the standpoint of many academic economists. We get it, you like Modi and hate the Indian left. You've made your point.

I am setting the record straight on what this election was about. It wasn't about massacres, it was about development.

Socialism should be a slur that has stunted the growth of India and has perpetuated poverty. Hell, the guardian article complains that the recent growth in India hasn't included poor people. How could it though with the restrictive labor laws that incentivizes businesses to stay small and disincentivizes large scale manufacturing that is required to really pull the greater population out of poverty. The only reason the tech revolution happened in India is because the politicians were too stupid to understand and regulate it.

[ag]

"not my friends and family who will be killed"... "the consequences" and "whatever happens"? Forgive my ignorance, but I'm not sure why just because some riots happened 12 years ago anything like that's going to be repeated now. BJP was in power in the 1990's were they not, and there were no mass anti muslim pogroms?

All the posts about Muslims being killed are borne out of ignorance. They have got to be unaware of the type of campaign the BJP ran this year and are stuck on events that happen more than a decade ago. And if the BJP had to run this sort of campaign in order to get this huge win, why would they set about creating sectarian strife which will cause damage to the economy, and thus their re-election in 2019.

By the way, I have never said it is just the Muslims that will be killed. Hindus have at least as much to be worried about. But, hey, electing an unapologetic mass murderer is good for development, isn't it?

Repeating a lie over and over doesn't make it true.

Interesting. Coming so soon after posting an "interesting" link, that in any country, but India, would have been considered outright fascist propaganda.

LOL what the hell are you even talking about?

That article you found so "interesting", of course.

Apparently you don't understand the meaning of the word fascist.

I think, I understand it a lot better than you. But, I am afraid, you will have a chance to learn firsthand. Just never tell me, nobody warned you.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Statewide vote changes reveal some interesting patterns. Although FPTP actually doing its thing (which it hasn't always in India in General Elections) means that basically all parties - other than the obvious - suffered seatwise from the huge swing to the BJP, the picture in terms of votes is a little more diverse.

Looking at UP for example:

INC -10.8
BSP -7.8
SP -1.1

And BJP +24.8

Bihar is complicated by the decoupling of the BJP-JD(U) link, so maybe we have to be cautious as to what exactly we're measuring but:

JD(U) -8.2
INC -1.9
RJD +0.8

And BJP +15.5

Assam is also interesting:

AGP -10.8
INC -5.3
AIUDF -1.3

And BJP +20.3

Delhi must be seen to be believed:

AAAP (N/A)
INC -42.0 (!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

And BJP +11.2

And West Bengal is frankly hilarious:

AITC +8.1
INC -3.9
CPI(M) -10.4

And BJP +10.7

And Punjab is as mad as hell and isn't going to take it anymore...

AAAP (N/A)
INC -12.1
SAD -7.6
BJP -1.4

[Sbane]

"not my friends and family who will be killed"... "the consequences" and "whatever happens"? Forgive my ignorance, but I'm not sure why just because some riots happened 12 years ago anything like that's going to be repeated now. BJP was in power in the 1990's were they not, and there were no mass anti muslim pogroms?

All the posts about Muslims being killed are borne out of ignorance. They have got to be unaware of the type of campaign the BJP ran this year and are stuck on events that happen more than a decade ago. And if the BJP had to run this sort of campaign in order to get this huge win, why would they set about creating sectarian strife which will cause damage to the economy, and thus their re-election in 2019.

By the way, I have never said it is just the Muslims that will be killed. Hindus have at least as much to be worried about. But, hey, electing an unapologetic mass murderer is good for development, isn't it?

Repeating a lie over and over doesn't make it true.

Interesting. Coming so soon after posting an "interesting" link, that in any country, but India, would have been considered outright fascist propaganda.

LOL what the hell are you even talking about?

That article you found so "interesting", of course.

Apparently you don't understand the meaning of the word fascist.

I think, I understand it a lot better than you. But, I am afraid, you will have a chance to learn firsthand. Just never tell me, nobody warned you.

Thank you for all your warnings but if the BJP doesn't honor it's campaign promise and wages violence on Muslims, they will lose the subsequent election. Since the BJP campaign team is obviously more professionally run than the other parties, I think they realize this too.

[Sbane]

And West Bengal is frankly hilarious:

AITC +8.1
INC -3.9
CPI(M) -10.4

And BJP +10.7

I don't even think there were free and fair elections in Bengal. All the mafia groups that supported the CPM have jumped ship to the TMC.

[Famous Mortimer]

Not only did Ajit Singh lose his seat, he came in third before the BJP and Samajwadi. He did manage to beat the BSP candidate though.